Re: Jose Mourinho Sack Watch

by danyjr Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:17 pm

Tbh can't wait for this scrub to fail (again) and go back this time forever to eating his peasantry lamb's head and those disgusting fermented fish.

by Unique Thu Dec 20, 2018 2:43 pm

CBarca wrote:Unique isn't allowed to defend Klopp after all his idiocy over the years

Embarrassing 180 it would be. Too embarrassing

for the first 2 years at Liverpool klopp had us defending like Fulham ffs. Our defence is top class now thankfully but I still for the life of me can’t work out why it took klopp over 2 years to see Moreno is not very good at defending

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Dec 20, 2018 3:29 pm

BusterLfc wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Can we now officially say that LVG is undoubtedly the best post SAF United manager and his sacking is still a disgrace?

Mourinho won 3 trophies and was the only manager after Ferguson to finish 2nd in the league.

Mou won 1 non Mickey Mouse trophy, same as LVG. LVG finished 4th and 5th (tied on points to 4th, for whatever that's worth). Mou 6th, 2nd and 6th (sacked). LVG played boring football, but Mou made even that look interesting by how he played. Most importantly though, LVG was trying to build a long term renewal project, signing young players and developing them. He was trying to set them up for long term success. Mou on the other hand tried signing just short of 30 dinosaurs like Alderweireld and Boateng that have injury problems and wouldn't last more than 2 years anyways. As he always has, look at how Inter collapsed after he left.

by Kaladin Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:07 pm

Paul Pogba apparently celebrated Jose Mourinho's sacking at the #MUFC training ground by shouting...

"He f***ed with the wrong baller!"https://t.co/HRtnWL0teN
— talkSPORT (@talkSPORT) December 20, 2018

by Firenze Thu Dec 20, 2018 4:16 pm

all I know is, I much preferred our time under LVG from a spectator standpoint despite not attaining the same 'success'. I'll definitely remember that more fondly and more importantly he wasn't a miserable enthusiasm sapping *bleep*.

@KaLadin

That numpty makes it really hard to like him. Can't wait for Mourinho to cut a scathing promo on him now the shackles are off.

by BusterLfc Thu Dec 20, 2018 5:04 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
BusterLfc wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:Can we now officially say that LVG is undoubtedly the best post SAF United manager and his sacking is still a disgrace?

Mourinho won 3 trophies and was the only manager after Ferguson to finish 2nd in the league.

Mou won 1 non Mickey Mouse trophy, same as LVG. LVG finished 4th and 5th (tied on points to 4th, for whatever that's worth). Mou 6th, 2nd and 6th (sacked). LVG played boring football, but Mou made even that look interesting by how he played. Most importantly though, LVG was trying to build a long term renewal project, signing young players and developing them. He was trying to set them up for long term success. Mou on the other hand tried signing just short of 30 dinosaurs like Alderweireld and Boateng that have injury problems and wouldn't last more than 2 years anyways. As he always has, look at how Inter collapsed after he left.

Whatever they did, Mourinho delivered the best results out of all managers post Ferguson. Last season he was 2nd with 81 points, if City wasn't so dominant and broke all records it would've at least been a proper title race. Van Gaal didn't have Guardiola's City to compete with, he had Leiceister Laughing

. And in fact, in that 2nd Van Gaal's season, 81 points was enough to win the title. Not saying Mourinho was great for United or anything, just he was by far better than Van Gaal

by Arquitecto Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:38 pm

Calling van Gaal's United better is pure Recency bias.

It was pure trash along with the World Cup hype he brought with him.

Far less competition in a league in obvious transition.

Overrated and Mourinho has utterly outclassed him each time he faced LvG.

ie 2010 Champions League Final.

by CBarca Thu Dec 20, 2018 6:49 pm

It wasn't a better team (let's not forget it lacked the financial backing nor the established players that Mou's Man U had...LvG was clearly more focused on the future). However it was a team that probably had more going for it as far as the future was concerned.

I also never remember such an absolute loser mentality as United under Mou have had.

Watching Man U this season disgusts me. I'm happy to see it on one hand, but on the other it's disgusting to see what they've become. They play like relegation candidates against any top team. Hell even against half decent teams.

by titosantill Thu Dec 20, 2018 8:25 pm

Sports fans make the funniest comparisons. Fact of the matter is, when lvg was there, people got tired of his bs and wanted him out, same goes for mourinho. Any comparison should be a 'who was more awful' comparison, than who was better

by Hapless_Hans Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:38 am

van Gaal went to Anfield and DOMINATED

FACT

by BarrileteCosmico Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:46 am

Kaladin wrote:
Paul Pogba apparently celebrated Jose Mourinho's sacking at the #MUFC training ground by shouting...

"He f***ed with the wrong baller!"https://t.co/HRtnWL0teN
— talkSPORT (@talkSPORT) December 20, 2018

Pogba bigger than the club, amazing Laughing

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:49 pm

That rashford finish :bow:

Mourinho wrote:Earlier this month, Mourinho appeared to dismiss Rashford’s chances of improving in front of goal, by claiming that the 21-year-old needed “natural qualities” to succeed.

“They work very hard but it’s not about work. It’s about natural qualities. We need to score more goals,” Mourinho said.

Best thing that can happen to a young player is for Mou to leave the team. This guy has never developed any talent. He has always been at top clubs with top youth talent available to him and from memory the only one that Mou was able to coach into a good player was Varane.

by Thimmy Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:56 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:That rashford finish

Mourinho wrote:Earlier this month, Mourinho appeared to dismiss Rashford’s chances of improving in front of goal, by claiming that the 21-year-old needed “natural qualities” to succeed.

“They work very hard but it’s not about work. It’s about natural qualities. We need to score more goals,” Mourinho said.

Best thing that can happen to a young player is for Mou to leave the team. This guy has never developed any talent. He has always been at top clubs with top youth talent available to him and from memory the only one that Mou was able to coach into a good player was Varane.

I think that was more down to Varane having the right talent and attitude when he arrived as a 19 year old. Pepe didn't peak until a few years later, and Ramos was even worse defensively then(recklessness), than he is now. Pepe also got himself injured quite a few times, which allowed Varane plenty of time to prove his worth. Not only was he more solid than our other, two defenders, but he was far more calm and composed, as well. Jose may have simply recognized his talent for all I know, but I think the circumstances didn't give Mou much other choice than to rely on him.

by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:31 am

Yeah that's very accurate, I think if Pepe never got injured Mou would've been happy to let Varane rot in the bench until he was sold off to Getafe

by Vlad the Impaler Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:09 pm

by RealGunner Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:43 pm

Mourinho: “My philosophy depends. I’d love to go to a club and be in conditions to do what Jurgen and Pep did. When Jurgen is in the club and wins absolutely nothing for three and a half years, still has the trust, confidence to keep going.” #mufc [beIN] pic.twitter.com/fzBlfVaF9A
— United Xtra (@utdxtra) January 19, 2019

by rincon Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:49 pm

That twitter headline doesn't do the video justice. Interesting interview, not only this part of it.

by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:16 pm

He's so incredibly defensive. He quite apparently can't cope with criticism at all, and is only ever employing whataboutisms to justify himself.
Safe to say, if he continues like that, and he looks like he will, he will never again get along with a top club dressing room., and I would be amazed if he even gets the chance to try.

by rincon Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:19 pm

He needs to go to a smaller club with less pressure and see if he can get head right again

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 20, 2019 3:06 pm

Nothing wrong with defending your legacy. he is arguably the most successful managers in the past 15 years and people treat him like big Sam lol

by Unique Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:12 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Nothing wrong with defending your legacy. he is arguably the most successful managers in the past 15 years and people treat him like big Sam lol

mourinho is fat sam but with a £2billion budget

by El Gunner Sun Jan 20, 2019 4:14 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:Nothing wrong with defending your legacy. he is arguably the most successful managers in the past 15 years and people treat him like big Sam lol

Update your NBA fantasy team, lad, John Wall is out for the rest of the season, T. Prince is not injured anymore so remove him from IL and put Kent Bazemore on IL

by urbaNRoots Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:25 pm

It's always someone else's fault with Mourinho.

by CBarca Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:29 pm

I don't think he ever sees a top club again to be honest.

by M99 Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:41 pm

Confirmed an urban legend.

by RealGunner Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:20 pm

CBarca wrote:I don't think he ever sees a top club again to be honest.

Bayern soon

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