Re: 2015/16 Summer Transfer Rumours Mk.VI

by Vlad the Impaler Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:19 pm

linetty wrote:And the key word being 'were'. Past tense. Schweini completely doesn't suit Pep's idea.

Yep, I agree. My point is that Pep is so lame right now at Bayern that he shouldn't even have arrived there in first place because Schweini and the other players didn't suit his idea. Heynckes' football was much better overall than any other tactics I've ever seen at a football club in my life.

by Unique Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:24 pm

S wrote:
Neuer
Rafinha-Martinez-Benatia-Bernat

Vidal-Lahm-Thiago

Robben-Lewandowski-Di Maria/whoever

Dat De-Germanization

I thought di maria was off to PSG.

by Myesyats Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:25 pm

Unique wrote:
S wrote:
Neuer
Rafinha-Martinez-Benatia-Bernat

Vidal-Lahm-Thiago

Robben-Lewandowski-Di Maria/whoever

Dat De-Germanization
I thought di maria was off to PSG.

Make it Reus Smile

by Unique Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:27 pm

linetty wrote:
Unique wrote:
S wrote:
Neuer
Rafinha-Martinez-Benatia-Bernat

Vidal-Lahm-Thiago

Robben-Lewandowski-Di Maria/whoever

Dat De-Germanization
I thought di maria was off to PSG.
Make it Reus

by VivaStPauli Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:27 pm

They already signed Costa. For over 30m. Let's all let that sink in for a bit.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:28 pm

Vlad the Impaler wrote:
linetty wrote:
Vlad the Impaler wrote:Is Pep destroying Bayern? Somebody tell me the truth!

Honestly I don't believe Gotze will depart from Bayern Munich.

Gotze leaving will have no impact on Bayern. He's chit. And Schweinsteiger is 30 already so that was just getting rid of an aging and injury ridden player.

Wrong. If Heynckes wouldn't have left Bayern, they would have dominated the UCL and Europe somehow like Barca did a few years ago. And Gustavo, Schweini, Kroos were incredible in 2013.

But yes, probabily Gotze leaving won't change a lot.

There is absolutely no certainties of that happening.

People said the same about Barca when they first won the CL in 2009 under Pep and yet they only won it once more in his 4 year tenure.

Football doesn't work like that.

by VivaStPauli Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:30 pm

I have no qualms with Bayern losing a CL final or semi final, they just should not utterly suck while doing it.

by Vlad the Impaler Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:37 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Vlad the Impaler wrote:
linetty wrote:

Gotze leaving will have no impact on Bayern. He's chit. And Schweinsteiger is 30 already so that was just getting rid of an aging and injury ridden player.

Wrong. If Heynckes wouldn't have left Bayern, they would have dominated the UCL and Europe somehow like Barca did a few years ago. And Gustavo, Schweini, Kroos were incredible in 2013.

But yes, probabily Gotze leaving won't change a lot.

There is absolutely no certainties of that happening.

People said the same about Barca when they first won the CL in 2009 under Pep and yet they only won it once more in his 4 year tenure.

Football doesn't work like that.

Fine, anyway the whole situation it's debatable. My feeling is that Heynckes would have done better than Pep. Let's call this intuition...

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:40 pm

I'm not saying that lol, i'm saying that it isn't a certainty Bayern would have dominated.

There's lots of different factors in play, which is why no team has retained the CL no matter how dominant they may seem.

by Vlad the Impaler Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:41 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'm not saying that lol, i'm saying that it isn't a certainty Bayern would have dominated.

There's lots of different factors in play, which is why no team has retained the CL no matter how dominant they may seem.

Nothing's a certainty in life, except the fact that we all die. Laughing

by Gil Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:44 pm

Not sure why people are blaming Pep. He's been shit for Germany as well. Hazard excels in Mourinho's "bus" tactics, Neymar has been outstanding playing 2nd fiddle to Messi at Barca. Hell, even in the same club Muller has done well & he definitely isn't someone you would normally associate with Guardiola football. You'd expect the German Messi to thrive in any system.

Maybe he's just a fraud like all the other former Dormtund players that got exposed outside Klopp's system.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:45 pm

Are you sure hmm

by VivaStPauli Sat Jul 18, 2015 4:47 pm

Gil wrote:Not sure why people are blaming Pep. He's been shit for Germany as well.

Not really, no. He's been "meh" in the weird experimental Pepesque formations Löw has tried, but been at least decent in the ones where we played anything resembling a 4-2-3-1, even as a false 9, though he's been best when being able to play as somewhat of a playmaker.

by Bankz Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:13 pm

Vlad the Impaler wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I'm not saying that lol, i'm saying that it isn't a certainty Bayern would have dominated.

There's lots of different factors in play, which is why no team has retained the CL no matter how dominant they may seem.

Nothing's a certainty in life, except the fact that we all die.

Not even that is certain. Laughing

by futbol Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:24 pm

Hope we get him.

by Bankz Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:24 pm

Gil wrote:Not sure why people are blaming Pep. He's been shit for Germany as well. Hazard excels in Mourinho's "bus" tactics, Neymar has been outstanding playing 2nd fiddle to Messi at Barca. Hell, even in the same club Muller has done well & he definitely isn't someone you would normally associate with Guardiola football. You'd expect the German Messi to thrive in any system.

Maybe he's just a fraud like all the other former Dormtund players that got exposed outside Klopp's system.

This
I've always known the guy was a fraud tbh.. Nothing special or unique bout him. For a guy supoosed to be the german messi, I've never seeing any game he played were he was fantastic or did anything worth discussing about. If he was so good, he'll bench whoever it is standing in his way ffs. The guy couldn't run to the toilet to save his life. But yeah, its easier to blame pep.

by RealGunner Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:27 pm

Starting to see Gil's point of view tbh.

Always rated him highly. Even now his technical qualities are great. But he just seems like another Aaron Hunt or Balázs Dzsudzsák

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:29 pm

You guys go too far, he's clearly class lol but it's not Pep's fault either.

There is middle ground between Viva's opinion and Gil's opinion which is actually the truth of it all hmm

by Vlad the Impaler Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:30 pm

You people doubt Gotze's talent? I am not sure...

by futbol Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:31 pm

He doesn't lack talent. He lacks balls. Which is actually worse.

by RealGunner Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:34 pm

He lacks that 'Chemical X' which all the difference makers have

Hazard is an elite dribbler
Neymar is an elite scorer
Wilshere is an elite creater of space (none of you call me out on this one)
Pogba is an elite match winner
Verratti is an elite ball distributor

Goetze excels at what exactly?

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:35 pm

RealGunner wrote:He lacks that 'Chemical X' which all the difference makers have

Hazard is an elite dribbler
Neymar is an elite scorer
Wilshere is an elite creater of cigarette smoke (none of you call me out on this one)
Pogba is an elite match winner
Verratti is an elite ball distributor

Goetze excels at what exactly?

by RealGunner Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:36 pm

ffs u pos ffs

ffs

by Bankz Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:36 pm

Fußball wrote:He doesn't lack talent. He lacks balls. Which is actually worse.

Gotzessi.. Proud

by Bankz Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:37 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
RealGunner wrote:He lacks that 'Chemical X' which all the difference makers have

Hazard is an elite headless chicken
Neymar is an elite poacher
Wilshere is an elite creater of cigarette smoke (none of you call me out on this one)
Pogba is an elite match winner
Verratti is an elite ball distributor

Goetze excels at what exactly?

by futbol Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:38 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
RealGunner wrote:He lacks that 'Chemical X' which all the difference makers have

Hazard is an elite dribbler
Neymar is an elite scorer
Wilshere is an elite creater of cigarette smoke (none of you call me out on this one)
Pogba is an elite match winner
Verratti is an elite ball distributor

Goetze excels at what exactly?

Been a long time I've seen RG #rekt like this. Probably something like 2 days.

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