Re: UEFA Coefficient development for the next seasons

by futbol_bill Sat Nov 28, 2015 3:18 pm

I get the sense that there is extreme optimism for EPL in this thread. Granted so far this year they are finally competing in both CL and EL, but way to soon to think they will stop Serie A from overtaking them and certainly way to early to think Bundesliga will begin to drop down. You can't overcome 2 or 3 horrendous results in a a single year. And certainly you can't get indications of what direction after just group play.

About the only thing one can conclude at this stage, is the recent Europe play of EPL teams (and improving Serie A teams) have stopped the rise of Russia, Portugal and France from creeping into top 4.

by futbol_bill Tue Dec 08, 2015 9:46 pm

Ha, now how many points d you get with Man U, Arsenal and possibly Chelsea out?

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:36 pm

Each would fail to collect 5 bonus points if they don't progress to the knock outs, although they could more than make up for it if they make a deep dive into the EL. United is already out so that's 5 points that EPL will not get.

by Hapless_Hans Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:15 pm

The LOLs if all Italian EL teams get kicked out early by English CL bottlers

by S Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:18 pm

to think that United or Arsenal would even bother about the EL

They would probably deem the capital one cup a more important comp.

by Hapless_Hans Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:23 pm

I would, and will, bet on United or Arsenal kicking out Roma and Napoli. Be careful what you wish for.

by S Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:29 pm

Don't know about Roma, they'll probably make the CL knockouts.

But Napoli will start as favorites against United or Arsenal anyway (:

by breva Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:40 pm

The Juventus loss was a blow for the Italian co-efficient this round unless Roma win and Chelsea and Arsenal lose.

by RealGunner Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:36 pm

Napoli would trash us tbh

We can take Roma though.

Excited for EL. Hope we play our B team away and A team at home.

by Curtinho Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:42 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:I would, and will, bet on United or Arsenal kicking out Roma and Napoli. Be careful what you wish for.

Napoli could beat Arsenal and United IMO.

by S Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:35 pm

3 Spanish teams(3 group winners)
3 English teams(2 group winners)
2 German teams(1 group winner)
2 Italian teams(0 group winners)
1 French team
1 Russian team(group winner)
1 Belgian team
1 Dutch team
1 Portuguese team
1 Ukrainian team

Evenly balanced CL.

Pretty bad CL week for Italian coefficients.Terrific week for EPL on the other hand.

by futbol Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:38 pm

La Liga only league where all teams are still alive in CL/EL competitions. :bow:

by breva Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:00 am

Until the 3 Italian and 2 English Europa League teams play, the week is not determined. But Italy will not gain this round. But remember, Serie A have a nearly 4 point advantage to start next season.

When you start dividing the points gained by the number of teams Italy has an advantage. Divided by 6 for Italy and divided by 8 for England has an effect.

by rwo power Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:15 am

@S

Wolfsburg won their group, too. But Leverkusen :facepalm:

And Gladbach will definitely learn from their CL campaign. It was their first one after all and they didn't look so bad in the group of death. In a way this reminded me of Dortmund's 2011/12 campain when they ended up 4th in their group, too, despite showing some nice football.

by BarrileteCosmico Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:15 pm

Suppose Spurs and Leicester make the CL. How do you guys see them doing in such a key season for the 4th spot battle?

by S Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:21 pm

Why should it matter ?

Pep will win CL with City anyway

That'll do

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:22 pm

Could see Spurs doing quite well, they play in a way which translates well in Europe and they'll likely keep their best players and invest further.

Leicester Laughing

Wouldn't even be surprised if they get KO'ed in the qualifiers.

by Art Morte Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:23 pm

Would be so funny if City finished 4th and then didn't reach the group stage in Pep's first games.

by Curtinho Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:39 pm

Spurs are on the up. They have a good coach, good players and all of their key players are young and improving. They look good for the forseeable future, IMO, and I think they'll do well in the CL (should they make it, which I think they will).

It's funny because people (lol Rodgers) were really hard on them for their spending after the Bale sale, but it has all really started to come together for them. I really enjoy watching their games.

Leicester...hard to say. I think they can do well though.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:41 pm

It's almost as if success comes when you buy young, talented players and give them time instead of giving up on them after 6 months.

A lot of teams could learn from them.

by Art Morte Wed Feb 03, 2016 9:58 pm

Well, most of the Bale money did go to waste; Paulinho, Soldado, Capoue, Chiriches - and even their top-3 player Lamela has for some weird reason lately been benched...

It's mostly been after that summer that they've made good choices for their team.

by breva Thu Feb 04, 2016 4:25 am

With so many EPL/Serie A matches coming up, it will be a zero sum game.

by Kaladin Thu Feb 04, 2016 11:32 am

Has it ever been a positive sum game?

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:51 pm

England: 10.875

Italy: 10.666

Anyways it's beginning to look pretty clear that England will win this season. Neither has a team taking the EL seriously (Spurs and Napoli would justifiably rather focus on the league judging by the teams they fielded today and the rest have no chance) but Italy won't have any team progress this stage of the CL whereas Man City probably will and Chelsea remain within upset distance.

by M99 Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:54 pm

BC landing in that jinx for Juventus :facepalm:

by Hapless_Hans Thu Feb 18, 2016 11:55 pm

England by no means performing strongly, but Italy bottling it massively.
The way PL teams keep losing, Serie A is missing a penalty without GK here.

by Sponsored content