Re: 2014 Summer Transfers Rumours Mk.X

by Hapless_Hans Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:53 pm

I think the issue with the youngsters is not so much overplaying them physically but demanding/expecting them to be able to carry too much responsibility rapidly.
Would be unfair to them and irresponsible as a top club's squad management.
It's a balance, but I'm not worried Pep would hesitate to trust them appropriately.

by Mr Nick09 Thu Aug 28, 2014 12:55 pm

Luiz Gustavo used to be mentioned as the name madrid would go after if Khedira leaves, he didnt. And even then, Carlo didnt want Khedira to go.

So the name of Luiz Gustavo is being mentioned because he is the longest standing name we have been linked with this summer.

As it stands, we have 3 options:
1) Illarra steps up, but if we have an injury between him or khedira we screwed.
2) we find a DM to make numbers, as Gustavo, but he is not gonna be very versatile + will make illarra useless again.
3) we sign another box to box but there arent any on the market that's quality.

by sportsczy Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:59 pm

Gustavo fill a role.... DM. If you have a DM in your mid, it allows you to play James or Isco as the AM, which is more natural to them. So in terms of offering a lot more options to Madrid, it makes a lot of sense.

by dostoevsky Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:08 pm

Van Ginkel's loan move to Milan may yet go through it seems according to Milan Channel suggesting that the youngster's no was not definitive. It seems Mourinho may have suggested that it would be best for MVG to spend the season away from London.

As an alternative flexible option in midfield, either as an alternative anchor in De Jong's absence or to his side, crucially relegating the likes of Muntari and Essien to further time on the bench, I would like this to go through, even if it is only a loan. He's raw and inexperienced, however we're short on options at the moment and it's a low cost solution without much downside, even if he fails.

by Mr Nick09 Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:21 pm

sportsczy wrote:Gustavo fill a role.... DM. If you have a DM in your mid, it allows you to play James or Isco as the AM, which is more natural to them. So in terms of offering a lot more options to Madrid, it makes a lot of sense.

yup, that works, it's what i mentioned. Illarra has no future in madrid since he cant play CM, shame. If we have a big game coming i would rather have Gustavo running point in front of the defense than Illarra at this point

by farfan Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:47 pm

what's the deal with illara ? didn't follow real enough last season to evaluate his performances .
wasn't he supposed to be a younger version of alonso ? what's lacking for him to get a spot ?

by Mr Nick09 Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:57 pm

The pressure is too high for him when the light shines on him. He plays below his talent, not enough courage, not enough balls. It's a shame because he is clearly a talented player. But RM arent going to wait for him, it is what it is. Also, he has been very underwhelming when not played at mediocentro, so even tactically he is limited with regards to the positions he can play in our midfield.

Kroos came in and settled that debate in one game vs Sevilla. We arent going to wait for Illarra, it wouldnt shock me if he moves on, heard rumors of him going on loan to Atheltic Bilbao to see how he progresses.

As it stands now, if Kroos is our mediocentro, it's better to find a DM that can do protect the back 4.

by Gil Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:02 pm

No idea why we're loaning Van Ginkel to Milan of all clubs. He won't get consistent gametime when he's competing with established pros like De Jong, Montolivo etc

by Abramovich Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:06 pm

Monti is out for 6months with a broken leg.

by dostoevsky Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:08 pm

Montolivo is unlikely to be back for at least four months, likely more and De Jong has had a preseason interrupted by niggling injuries, so I actually believe he'll have quite a few opportunities to establish space for himself within the squad during the first half of the year. If he performs during this time then he'll ensure he's high up the pecking order of our midfield rotation once Monty does return.

by RED Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:49 pm

Hull and Villa are in a bidding war for Cleverley. Each club willing to give United 8/9 Mill for him.

rofl

That would be incredible business for us.

by Helmer Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:51 pm

He would be an excellent player for Hull, although I wanted him always to watch in red shirt Sad

by Mr Nick09 Thu Aug 28, 2014 3:54 pm

Di Marzio wrote:Florentino Perez is with Jorge Mendes in Monte Carlo, they are waiting for Monaco's DOF to negotiate Falcao

by urbaNRoots Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:21 pm

Dortmund working on a Kagawa return and he's open to it banana

http://mobil.ruhrnachrichten.de/sport/bvb/Nach-zwei-Jahren-in-England-Shinji-Kagawa-offenbar-vor-Rueckkehr-zum-BVB;art11635,2465162

by LeSwagg James Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:23 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Di Marzio wrote:Florentino Perez is with Jorge Mendes in Monte Carlo, they are waiting for Monaco's DOF to negotiate Falcao

Falcao to ride the bench? hmm

by Firenze Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:29 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Dortmund working on a Kagawa return and he's open to it

http://mobil.ruhrnachrichten.de/sport/bvb/Nach-zwei-Jahren-in-England-Shinji-Kagawa-offenbar-vor-Rueckkehr-zum-BVB;art11635,2465162

kagawa + 25m for Hummels banana

by Hapless_Hans Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:32 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Dortmund working on a Kagawa return and he's open to it

http://mobil.ruhrnachrichten.de/sport/bvb/Nach-zwei-Jahren-in-England-Shinji-Kagawa-offenbar-vor-Rueckkehr-zum-BVB;art11635,2465162

only if they get him back cheaper than they sold him lol

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:35 pm

Man Utd have accepted a bid from Aston Villa for Cleverley, according to Sky Sports.

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:37 pm

If Torres' move to AC Milan goes through, Destro is seen as a possible replacement by Chelsea, according to Sky Sports.

by Sri Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:49 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:Dortmund working on a Kagawa return and he's open to it

http://mobil.ruhrnachrichten.de/sport/bvb/Nach-zwei-Jahren-in-England-Shinji-Kagawa-offenbar-vor-Rueckkehr-zum-BVB;art11635,2465162

only if they get him back cheaper than they sold him lol

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:56 pm

Rumours of Arbeloa joining Arsenal.

by rwo power Thu Aug 28, 2014 4:57 pm

Free Shinji!

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:03 pm

Valencia and Juventus have made bids for Javier Hernandez, according to BBC.

by halamadrid2 Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:21 pm

PSG owner, Perez and Mendes in Monaco now apparently. rofl

Any Mendes clients left in PSG?

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Arbeloa close to finalising a deal to Arsenal apparently

http://www.soymadridista.com/index.php/real-madrid/item/5542-arbeloa-se-marcha-en-otra-salida-sorpresa

Any players left??????

by Blue Thu Aug 28, 2014 5:42 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:If Torres' move to AC Milan goes through, Destro is seen as a possible replacement by Chelsea, according to Sky Sports.

So much win for us.

by windkick Thu Aug 28, 2014 7:00 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:PSG owner, Perez and Mendes in Monaco now apparently. Any Mendes clients left in PSG?

Arbeloa close to finalising a deal to Arsenal apparently

http://www.soymadridista.com/index.php/real-madrid/item/5542-arbeloa-se-marcha-en-otra-salida-sorpresa

Any players left??????

They were just at the living drawing

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