Re: The Official WWE Thread - Part 18

by RealGunner Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:09 am

lmao I grew up thinking Undertaker was dead ffs

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:56 am

Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

Vince McMahon was responsible for how strong John Cena was portrayed on this week's WWE RAW. Vince wrote and put together all material for Cena this week.

Vince reportedly felt that with Brock Lesnar dominating their match at SummerSlam, some of Cena's fans may lose faith in him unless he made an immediate, strong statement on RAW.

On a related note, the video package with Lesnar and Paul Heyman that aired on this week's RAW was originally scheduled to air on the September 1st episode.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 28, 2014 1:58 am

Really fed up with vince

Look back on all the last minute RAW decisions since WM and look at how many of them in hindsight were shit

by RealGunner Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:00 am

Vince

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:04 am

Scared Cena fans would lose faith in him

A) If that's a scare don't book a part timer to squash him for 20 minutes

B) 10 years of being the top guy doesn't disappear after 1 loss.

C) Vince has went out of his way to create 20 jobbers at least, some like Kane have credibility due to their veteran status. Pick one of them, not a talented future main eventer who he's already beat clean twice and lost to 1 time due to the heaviest match interference in the last decade.

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:08 am

Imo neither Triple H or Vince are good enough to run the company. Both make bad decisions.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:10 am

HHH has impressed too in his short time near the top

Vince however is a lost cause who's apparantly going senile and making decisions like over plugging 9.99 and squashing talents to play it safe. Plus one minute he's backing people like Cesaro, helping them get recognition from the crowd then pulling the switch with no reason other than to change it up

He's lost it, HHH can and will improve when he gets more say in things.

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:10 am

But anyway nothing's going to improve until there's competition again imo.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:13 am

There may never be wrestling competition again

Best hope is a non-wrestling tv series somehow impacts WWE but not sure it's possible. Not sure a tv show would want to be in that time slot anyway.

by RealGunner Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:17 am

This is what MT won't understand lol

There will never be a competition for WWe ever again unless some mad bastard buys TNA and pays millions to ROh,NJWP etc and get their best talents and get best writers etc. Which will never happen.

Or if some big ass tv show like GoT moves to monday night. Which again will never happen because people are afraid of RAW. no legit company will slot their show at the same time as RAW.

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:19 am

I didn't say WWE would ever get competition, just said they need competition to improve. hmm

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:21 am

Option 2 is WWE go in a slump and fans tune out/become disinterested but that can also lead to the product being shit long-term too with more cuts.

Atm the best we can hope for is new people making decisions. I.E Vince *bleep* off and HHH shaking it up a bit.

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:22 am

Even when RAW was 2 hours, it was still mainly filler apart from the main storyline. 2 hours is more tolerable though.

by RealGunner Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:24 am

Too much money in 3 hour for them to take it back to 2 hour.

If WWF/WWE have lasted for like 70 years? then I don't think it will go in a slump anytime soon.

New fans will always take over. WWe targets the product to make sure kids turn in to see little donkey dance with shiticos and get happy. And eventually it turns into a habit of watching it

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:26 am

Too many ad breaks in a 3 hour 10 minute window

It's sickening honestly, no idea how even a die hard fan can watch it live on their own

I mean nobody liked more than several wrestlers, nobody i've ever known or seen post on forums. So there's a 100% chance there's a 45 minute period on the show where you suffer through ads, shit comedy segments and jobber tv minute matches.

Intolerable

They'll never reduce ad time, so they should reduce it to 2 hours and have smackdown a place for lesser storylines to develop.

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:27 am

Apparently the writers can choose where to have ad breaks. They should have them at the end of matches, instead of in the middle of them.

by Tomwin Lannister Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:28 am

Thought it was up to the channel?

Either way less ads mean somebody is making less money so it's not happening

They generally have ad breaks at the end even if the middle is cut out anyway

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:31 am

Most matches are too long nowadays imo. The sports style presentation with match after match after match needs to go.

by Onyx Thu Aug 28, 2014 2:41 am

It’s been reported how there was some negativity among mid-carders in WWE over how a part-timer like Brock Lesnar was going to win the WWE World Heavyweight Title.

Apparently there’s a similar feeling among at least some of the writers and possibly a few members of upper management.

There’s also an issue with WWE not having any credible challengers for Lesnar as champion. Apparently this is of major concern to Vince McMahon, enough that he has at least given some thought to bringing Kurt Angle back as a wrestler for a feud with Lesnar.

Vince has been strongly against bringing Angle back in the past and we noted just this week that both Vince and Triple H reportedly “blew Angle off” when he inquired about a return recently.