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Post by McAgger Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:49 pm

Cost Liverpool and Roma around the same amount. Similar age. Occupy same positions and play similar roles. Both had a stint in Portugal for the big two (Porto/Benfica).

Who is the better player?
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Post by REWB Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:54 pm

lazar clearly
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:21 am

90% haven't seen either play more than 10 times at best. 95% even.

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Post by Onyx Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:24 am

Yeh, I've seen them play a few times. Seen some youtube clips too. hmm

From what I've seen, I'd take Iturbe. Much better dribbler and he's similar to Messi.

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Post by Onyx Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:24 am

Yeh, I've seen them play a few times. Seen some youtube clips too. hmm

From what I've seen, I'd take Iturbe. Much better dribbler and his style is similar to Messi.

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Post by Kick Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:28 am

RealGunner wrote:90% haven't seen either play more than 10 times at best. 95% even.


Who doesn't have time for Hellas Verona and Benfica? Two European heavyweights there.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:34 am

Kick wrote:
RealGunner wrote:90% haven't seen either play more than 10 times at best. 95% even.


Who doesn't have time for Hellas Verona and Benfica? Two European heavyweights there.


Benfica have more European pedigree than Chelsea, in case you didn't know mate. Smile

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Post by Ganso Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:37 am

i have been following Iturbe since 2010's SA u20s, dude is a beast on his day.He has great technique and combines it with goat athleticism, too bad he didn't get enough playing time at Porto.Last time I watched him was with River Plate, can't say I followed Verona this season.Could well end up as just a promising youngster, let's see how he does in Roma.
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Post by Kick Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:38 am

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Kick wrote:
RealGunner wrote:90% haven't seen either play more than 10 times at best. 95% even.


Who doesn't have time for Hellas Verona and Benfica? Two European heavyweights there.


Benfica have more European pedigree than Chelsea, in case you didn't know mate. Smile


hmm

Better start watching Nottinham Forest then, since they've got such good European Pedigree.

People do not watch teams for their history, they watch teams for the current players.
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:41 am

Kick wrote:
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Kick wrote:
Who doesn't have time for Hellas Verona and Benfica? Two European heavyweights there.


Benfica have more European pedigree than Chelsea, in case you didn't know mate. Smile


hmm

Better start watching Nottinham Forest then, since they've got such good European Pedigree.

People do not watch teams for their history, they watch teams for the current players.


Benfica have been in 3 European semi-finals in the past 4 years.

Only Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern and Atletico and indeed Chelsea can match that.

hmm

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Post by Kick Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:42 am

So how is that more than Chelsea, IF Chelsea have won the CL and EL in the past three seasons?
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:55 am

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I was counting the 60s triumph as well :coffee:

If we conveniently ignore those, we may as well not call Real Madrid's CL win "La Decima" , instead "La Quinta" banana

Point was, Benfica are a European giant. And soooooo many of the players in the richer teams in bigger leagues in Europe have come from Benfica/Porto and Liga Sagres.

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Post by Kick Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:08 am

Your point makes no sense.

Benfica have spent three of the last four season in the Europa league. Chelsea, on the other hand, have spent only one of those in the Europa league, which, we won, beating Benfica. Thats not the only time in the last four seasons we've won against them either. The rest of the time, we've been in the CL knockouts.

Hey, I could go back over the past decade, since, Chelsea have been in Semi finals of the CL a insane amount of times (More than any other team, I believe). But yes, lets look at the 60s to work out who present is the better European team.

Benfica are not presently heavyweights of Europe (I'd aruge only Chelsea, Barca, Real, Atletico Bayern and perhaps a few more are).
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Post by Forza Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:19 am

I only saw Markovic vs Juve and he was impressive. He has excellent speed on the counter and makes driving runs through midfield without being dispossessed or doing something stupid when it's time to release the ball.

Iturbe was part of an incredible Hellas Verona midfield trio this season - Romulo & Jorginho being the other two. All three worked superbly to feed Luca Toni who was somehow nearly the Serie A top scorer. Iturbe plays a more advanced role than the other two (out on the wing). He can score, but he's also industrious and won't laze about up front when the team needs to plug holes at the back and soak up pressure.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:21 am

Bah Gawd Markovic - Iturbe became Pool - Chelsea


I love those territorial Goal Legacy gang wars Proud

Anyways, I've not seen that much of both, so I think this would be a solid discussion in 6 months time when both have some serious game time for clubs GL actually spectate a lot.
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Post by Nishankly Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:09 am

GL doesnt watch LFC tho thats confirmed :coffee:

Not seen enough of both to decide. Lazar is a boss first name imo.
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Post by S Thu Jul 17, 2014 10:42 am

Natalie Portman wrote:
Kick wrote:
RealGunner wrote:90% haven't seen either play more than 10 times at best. 95% even.


Who doesn't have time for Hellas Verona and Benfica? Two European heavyweights there.


Benfica have more European pedigree than Chelsea, in case you didn't know mate. Smile


True that.
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Post by Chumlum Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:03 pm

Nishy wrote:GL doesnt watch LFC tho thats confirmed :coffee:

Not seen enough of both to decide. Lazar is a boss first name imo.


If only there could be--could have been--a Lazar Hazard.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:29 pm

RealGunner wrote:90% haven't seen either play more than 10 times at best. 95% even.



Basically this lol.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Jul 17, 2014 3:08 pm

i am the 5% banana
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Post by McAgger Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:45 pm

Would you say watching either of them for 5 games is enough? Surely a pretty informative opinion can be put together having seen someone for 5 games or so.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:05 pm

People sometimes have shit seasons in otherwise good careers, 5 games is unfair imo

half a season and we could safely say one is better than the other at this stage in their careers if there's a big difference.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Thu Jul 17, 2014 5:40 pm

Don't call me James wrote:Would you say watching either of them for 5 games is enough? Surely a pretty informative opinion can be put together having seen someone for 5 games or so.



Nope lol.
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Post by Killer Fri Jul 25, 2014 7:16 am

Markovic is a mediocre player, his first touch is very poor. His shot is horrible.

Iturbe is similar to Messi, great ball control and good shot.

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