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Post by DeviAngel Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:02 am

Nishank wrote:Laughing
making a debate and talking doesn't mean we believe in it Smile

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Post by ExtremistEnigma Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:44 am

We bought 3 CBs in the summer.. why would we want another now? Laughing
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Post by Nishankly Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:57 am

DeviAngel wrote:
Nishank wrote:Laughing
making a debate and talking doesn't mean we believe in it Smile
No problem in talking or debating, Its the rumor which is so ignorant.
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Post by dronte Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:37 am

Of course it is not true, but if it was.. No way I would let Bonucci go, Barzagli is not getting any younger, Chiellini isn't either. I can imagine Bonucci playing his whole career in Juve jersey after the unbelievable improvement since he joined us.

I can still remember bashing him after many matches when he was so shaky Very Happy

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Post by juventus101 Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:57 am

Theres no way this is true. They dont need a CB first of all. Marchisio I highly doubt will be sold. And by selling a world class CM and our only true Sweeper we wouod have to change too much of our tactics. Suarez is great but I also wouldnt give up Marchisio. As kuch hate as he gets, he does so much work under the radar that hes still world classs in my opinion. Not to mention he was Italys best player against Germany yesterday, looked like his old attacking self again.
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Post by Vibe Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:12 am

I wouldn't sell Marchisio for any money TBH...The Pogba movement is crazy.He's good,but Marchisio is better no doubt...Anyone who thinks Pogba is better only watch football where the ball is.
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Post by salmano9 Sat Nov 16, 2013 2:38 pm

Vibe tribe the troll :bow:
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Post by djfawnz Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:12 pm

i wouldnt sell Marchisio that easily but i would Definitely consider sellin Bonucci. To me Bonuci "shines" because he plays in a 3CB system, but the dude is error prone. Barzagli will not get us a lot of money and Chiellini has Juve DNA.
i would consider Bonucci sale if a WC player were to arrive.
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Post by DeviAngel Sat Nov 16, 2013 3:44 pm

Vibe wrote:I wouldn't sell Marchisio for any money TBH...The Pogba movement is crazy.He's good,but Marchisio is better no doubt...Anyone who thinks Pogba is better only watch football where the ball is.
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Post by salmano9 Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:01 pm

If we cell bonbon, we could play 4-3-3 easily, with chiello or ogbonna with barzagli in CB.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:06 pm

I'm 95% sure this isn't true but it's not the most stupid rumour i've ever heard

Pool switched to a back 3, for me there's no better sweeper in the back 3 right now than Bonucci. As for midfield well Marchisio is class and plenty of teams would be much better off with him around.

Probably B.S though.
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Post by DeviAngel Mon Dec 09, 2013 5:32 pm

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Post by S Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:30 pm

http://www.goallegacy.net/t29934-is-bonucci-world-class?highlight=bonucci

http://www.goallegacy.net/t33741-liverpool-want-marchisio-and-bonucci-and-offer-suarez?highlight=bonucci
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Post by S Thu Dec 12, 2013 1:48 pm

Average defender.The first in line that needs to be benched.
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Post by DeviAngel Thu Dec 12, 2013 4:24 pm

His loss of concentration in middle of the match irritates me but his passes are world class.
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Post by DeviAngel Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:03 pm

Bonucci: 'Zero excuses'


Leonardo Bonucci insisted Juventus have “zero excuses, zero remorse” after their Champions League exit.

The Bianconeri crashed out of the competition after a 1-0 defeat to Galatasaray, a game played out over two days due to a snowstorm on a disastrous pitch.

“Zero excuses, zero remorse, on the field to win... always! To the end forza Juventus,” wrote Bonucci on Twitter.

Meanwhile, Juve Coach Antonio Conte has been presented with the Tapiro d’Oro, a trophy awarded by famous Italian TV show Striscia La Notizia to public figures who have suffered a public disappointment.
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Post by S Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:02 pm

Is it just me who thinks he's returning to his old self(2011-12 form) again ?
I can give you one thing that his passing has improved since then but i dont see much improvements in defense.Still committing blunders as per usual.Still cant let the two blunders he committed in both the Gala games out of my memory.
Just cant keep wasting Ogbonna on the bench,his passing may not be as good as Bonucci but its still of an acceptable standard.
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Post by salmano9 Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:09 pm

If he does one or two mistakes at some points, that doesn't make him worse than ogbonna... remember that we kept 10 clean sheets the last 11 games.... Conte can judge better than you and I
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Post by salmano9 Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:10 pm

And yeas, he is nlt the reason for our CL exit... We didnt take gala and kobenhaven seriously...
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Post by S Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:16 pm

I'm not completely putting the blame on him.This is just a hypothetical debate at the end of the day.He and Chiellini have had subpar seasons in reality.And we really cant take our defenders' performances in Serie A as a measuring stick as the attacking quality is a bit inferior to European teams.

Might be a harsh judgement but just saying Ogbonna deserves more chances.

Even Caceres who should be playing a lot of games isnt used much.Hopefully he can see more game time from now on atleast.


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Post by salmano9 Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:24 pm

No, you must take serie a into consideration... look at the didference between the last 3 seasons and del neri and before... Conte desgined our defence in a way to concede as little goals as possible
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Post by S Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:31 pm

Like somebody said earlier in this thread,the 3 man backline actually masks his weaknesses but his long range passing is probably one of the reasons he's still considered an important member of the backline.He was well and truly exposed in Europe though.
Conte is probably of the idea that he doesnt need to change the winning combination.
Hope to see more of Ogbonna personally.
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Post by salmano9 Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:46 pm

Well, he doesnt do long passes that often, but tbh id like to see more of caceres
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Post by S Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:54 pm

He does and this season there have been some very accurate long balls from him.(Still insist its one of the main reasons why he starts).That Roma game shouldnt fool you cos we allowed to them to have possession instead of controlling the game like we always do.

Caceres will start in the next game anyway now that Barzagli is suspended for the next game.

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Post by salmano9 Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:58 pm

I'm glad Barz got that yellow card :)wanted to see caceres.
Yeah, I saw some of incidents where he made mistakes in Roma and in other games to, VS Milan i remmeber too he gave the ball easily to De Jong I guess?
Despite that, He really is a fighter, fights for every ball.
Our defence is better than Madrid's. They make way more mistakes than ours btw...
And ofcourse, there is a reason why we didn't sell him after the disastrous season with Del Neri.. He had something special...
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Post by Cassius Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:48 am

He's a good defender. Not anywhere near WC yet IMO. Makes up his for his brainfarts with decent passing and overall understanding with chiellini and barzagli.

In the 2nd set tier of top defenders I think
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