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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:14 am

In 2010 there was a rule against having 2 CONMEBOL teams in the same group but not against having 3 European teams in the same one:

The basic draw procedure was to draw out the pots starting from Pot 1. One team from each pot would be placed, in order of being drawn, into one of eight groups from A to H. After each team was allocated to a group, its position in the group was also drawn. This determined the team's placement in the predetermined fixture schedule. This was with the exception of the seeded teams, who were automatically placed in their group's Position 1.

In order to maintain geographical separation of teams, the basic draw procedure had to be modified for the drawing of Pot 3. No South American teams could be placed into Brazil or Argentina's groups, and no African team could be placed in South Africa's group. In order to accommodate this, the first two African teams drawn would be placed immediately into Brazil and Argentina's groups. South Africa's group (predetermined to be Group A) was to be left vacant until filled by the first South American team drawn. Beyond these considerations, the principle of filling from A to H applied.[2]

In the event, the first two teams drawn from Pot 3 were Nigeria and Côte d'Ivoire, who were placed in Argentina's Group B and Brazil's Group G respectively. Algeria were then placed in Group C so that a South American team, Uruguay, could be placed with South Africa in Group A.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_seeding

Edit: nevermind, in 2010 there were no euro teams outside the euro group


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Post by The_Badger Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:14 am

It's simply to avoid having two nations form the same confederation in the same group. It's unavoidable with the European nations as there's 13/14 that qualify.

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Post by ioilersrock448 Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:18 am

Pedram wrote:
ioilersrock448 wrote:*I assume Bosnia and France will be switched*

Group A: Belgium, Netherlands, Ecuador, Costa Rica
Group B: Uruguay, Croatia, Cameroon, Japan
Group C: Switzerland, Portugal, Chile, Iran
Group D: Germany, England, Ghana, Honduras
Group E: Spain, Greece, Ivory Coast, Mexico
Group F: Brazil, France, Algeria, Australia
Group G: Argentina, Italy, Nigeria, South Korea
Group H: Colombia, Russia, Bosnia, USA
Brazil is in Group A.
Thanks, I wasn't quite sure about that one, just witch A and F around.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:43 am

Group A: Brazil, Bosnia, Cameroon & Iran
Group B: Spain, Portugal, Chile & USA
Group C: Argentina, Russia, Ivory Coast & Mexico
Group D: Germany, Netherlands, Nigeria & Costa Rica
Group E: Belgium, England, Ghana & Honduras
Group F: Colombia, Greece, France & Japan
Group G: Uruguay, Croatia, Algeria & South Korea
Group H: Switzerland, Italy, Ecuador & Australia
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Post by Forza Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:49 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Group A: Brazil, Bosnia, Cameroon & Iran
Group B: Spain, Portugal, Chile & USA
Group C: Argentina, Russia, Ivory Coast & Mexico
Group D: Germany, Netherlands, Nigeria & Costa Rica
Group E: Belgium, England, Ghana & Honduras
Group F: Colombia, Greece, France & Japan
Group G: Uruguay, Croatia, Algeria & South Korea
Group H: Switzerland, Italy, Ecuador & Australia
Too well balanced, will never happen Laughing
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Post by M99 Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:59 am

Brazil
Italy
France
Mexico

Cometh at me brethren.
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Post by Onyx Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:17 am

Group A:

Brazil
Italy
Algeria
Iran

Group B:

Uruguay
Russia
France
USA

Group C:

Spain
Croatia
Nigeria
Japan

Group D:

Argentina
England
Ivory Coast
South Korea

Group E:

Germany
Bosnia
Chile
Australia

Group F:

Belgium
Greece
Ecuador
Honduras

Group G:

Switzerland
Netherlands
Ghana
Costa Rica

Group H:

Uruguay
Portugal
Cameroon
Mexico

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Post by iftikhar Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:17 pm

Group: A
Brazil
Greece
Algeria
Australia

Group: B
Germany
Croatia
Nigeria
Costa Rica

Group: C
Argentina
Netherlands
Ghana
USA

Group: D
Spain
Bosnia
Ecuador
South Korea

Group: E
Colombia
England
Ivory Coast
Japan

Group: F
Switzerland
Italy
Chile
Iran

Group: G
Uruguay
Portugal
France
Mexico

Group: H
Belgium
Russia
Cameroon
Honduras
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Post by Kamikaze692 Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:34 pm

M99 wrote:Brazil
Italy
France
Mexico

Cometh at me brethren.
Argentina
Portugal
Chile
Japan

now THAT is a group of Death :coffee:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:40 pm

Argentina and Chile can't be in the same group :coffee:
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Post by sportsczy Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:12 pm

This is going to be an epic WC imo. The gap in ability between teams has shrunk to the point where almost everyone has a chance to beat anyone:

Europe: Netherlands, Italy, Belgium, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, England, Russia, Bosnia, Greece, Croatia, Portugal, France

SA: Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia, Chili, Ecuador

CONCACAF: US, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras

Africa: Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Cameroun, Ghana, Algeria

Asia: Japan, South Korea, Australia, Iran

Out of these 32 teams, i'd only consider maybe 5 to be easy. All the other ones can get a result. I hope teams come to play good footy because we could get epic games from the get go... a lot of upsets are going to happen imo.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:19 pm

The draw: Probable pots

Pot 1 (seeds)

Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina, Colombia, Belgium, *Uruguay, Switzerland,

Pot 2 (Concacaf, Asia)

Costa Rica, Honduras, Mexico, USA, Australia, Iran, Japan, South Korea.

Pot 3 (South America, Africa + lowest-ranked European team)

Chile, Ecuador, Algeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, France (21)

Pot 4 (Europe)

Bosnia-Herzegovinia, England, Italy, Russia, Netherlands, Portugal, Croatia, Greece.
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Post by Hawky Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:32 pm

Group A
Brasil
Croatia
Cameroon
Iran

Group B
Spain
England
Ecuador
South Korea

Group C
Argentina
Italy
Ivory Coast
Japan

Group D
Germany
Portugal
Algeria
Mexico

Group E
Belgium
Russia
Ghana
Australia

Group F
Colombia
Netherlands
France
USA

Group G
Uruguay
Bosnia
Nigeria
South Korea

Group H
Switzerland
Greece
Chile
Honduras
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Post by farfan Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:35 pm

who are the 5 easy teams ? i only counted 2 .
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Post by Hawky Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:37 pm

IMO:

Favourites: Argentina, Brasil, Spain, Germany
Possible surprises: Belgium, Colombia / Chile, France, Ghana / Nigeria
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Post by sportsczy Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:37 pm

Ecuador, Iran, Costa Rica, Honduras and Australia.
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Post by Hawky Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:39 pm

farfan wrote:who are the 5 easy teams ? i only counted 2 .
Costa Rica, Honduras, Iran, Australia... maybe Algeria too...
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Post by Zealous Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:42 pm

sportsczy wrote:Ecuador, Iran, Costa Rica, Honduras and Australia.
I can see the first four putting on a decent show. Australia might get destroyed though.
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Post by Casciavit Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:44 pm

Forza Japan, could easily see them make a deep run this year, IF they don't get drawn up in the group of death.

Unlike 2010, where the favourite was Spain IMO. This year there is no clear favourite, but I think a South American team will win it this year, either Brazil or Argentina.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:45 pm

Ecuador only lost 2 points at home over the qualifying period, gets called easy Proud
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Post by DeletedUser#1 Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:45 pm

Iran the team who did the double over South Korea and conceded 2 goals in 8 qualifiers managed by one of the best tacticians of modern era is counted as "EASY"
Loooooool

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Post by sportsczy Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:48 pm

Favorites for me: Italy, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina

Dark Horses for me: Portugal, Uruguay, Netherlands, Belgium

Hard to tell but have plenty of quality: France, England, Ivory Coast, Colombia, Chile, Croatia

Tough to play: Pretty much everyone else lol.
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Post by The_Badger Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:51 pm

I bet it's dull with, too many top sides shit scared of being adventurous against other top sides, playing careful defensive football.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:53 pm

Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Italy, Colombia, Netherlands and arguably Spain don't play defensive football.
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Post by The_Badger Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:55 pm

Not normally, no.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Nov 20, 2013 4:55 pm

Who do you guys think is the best team in the North American/Asian pot?
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