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Re: 2014 Brazil World Cup Group Stage Draw Discussion
In 2010 there was a rule against having 2 CONMEBOL teams in the same group but not against having 3 European teams in the same one:
Edit: nevermind, in 2010 there were no euro teams outside the euro group
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup_seedingThe basic draw procedure was to draw out the pots starting from Pot 1. One team from each pot would be placed, in order of being drawn, into one of eight groups from A to H. After each team was allocated to a group, its position in the group was also drawn. This determined the team's placement in the predetermined fixture schedule. This was with the exception of the seeded teams, who were automatically placed in their group's Position 1.
In order to maintain geographical separation of teams, the basic draw procedure had to be modified for the drawing of Pot 3. No South American teams could be placed into Brazil or Argentina's groups, and no African team could be placed in South Africa's group. In order to accommodate this, the first two African teams drawn would be placed immediately into Brazil and Argentina's groups. South Africa's group (predetermined to be Group A) was to be left vacant until filled by the first South American team drawn. Beyond these considerations, the principle of filling from A to H applied.[2]
In the event, the first two teams drawn from Pot 3 were Nigeria and Côte d'Ivoire, who were placed in Argentina's Group B and Brazil's Group G respectively. Algeria were then placed in Group C so that a South American team, Uruguay, could be placed with South Africa in Group A.[3]
Edit: nevermind, in 2010 there were no euro teams outside the euro group
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Re: 2014 Brazil World Cup Group Stage Draw Discussion
It's simply to avoid having two nations form the same confederation in the same group. It's unavoidable with the European nations as there's 13/14 that qualify.
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Thanks, I wasn't quite sure about that one, just witch A and F around.Pedram wrote:Brazil is in Group A.ioilersrock448 wrote:*I assume Bosnia and France will be switched*
Group A: Belgium, Netherlands, Ecuador, Costa Rica
Group B: Uruguay, Croatia, Cameroon, Japan
Group C: Switzerland, Portugal, Chile, Iran
Group D: Germany, England, Ghana, Honduras
Group E: Spain, Greece, Ivory Coast, Mexico
Group F: Brazil, France, Algeria, Australia
Group G: Argentina, Italy, Nigeria, South Korea
Group H: Colombia, Russia, Bosnia, USA
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Re: 2014 Brazil World Cup Group Stage Draw Discussion
Group A: Brazil, Bosnia, Cameroon & Iran
Group B: Spain, Portugal, Chile & USA
Group C: Argentina, Russia, Ivory Coast & Mexico
Group D: Germany, Netherlands, Nigeria & Costa Rica
Group E: Belgium, England, Ghana & Honduras
Group F: Colombia, Greece, France & Japan
Group G: Uruguay, Croatia, Algeria & South Korea
Group H: Switzerland, Italy, Ecuador & Australia
Group B: Spain, Portugal, Chile & USA
Group C: Argentina, Russia, Ivory Coast & Mexico
Group D: Germany, Netherlands, Nigeria & Costa Rica
Group E: Belgium, England, Ghana & Honduras
Group F: Colombia, Greece, France & Japan
Group G: Uruguay, Croatia, Algeria & South Korea
Group H: Switzerland, Italy, Ecuador & Australia
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Re: 2014 Brazil World Cup Group Stage Draw Discussion
Too well balanced, will never happenBarrileteCosmico wrote:Group A: Brazil, Bosnia, Cameroon & Iran
Group B: Spain, Portugal, Chile & USA
Group C: Argentina, Russia, Ivory Coast & Mexico
Group D: Germany, Netherlands, Nigeria & Costa Rica
Group E: Belgium, England, Ghana & Honduras
Group F: Colombia, Greece, France & Japan
Group G: Uruguay, Croatia, Algeria & South Korea
Group H: Switzerland, Italy, Ecuador & Australia
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Brazil
Italy
France
Mexico
Cometh at me brethren.
Italy
France
Mexico
Cometh at me brethren.
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Re: 2014 Brazil World Cup Group Stage Draw Discussion
Group A:
Brazil
Italy
Algeria
Iran
Group B:
Uruguay
Russia
France
USA
Group C:
Spain
Croatia
Nigeria
Japan
Group D:
Argentina
England
Ivory Coast
South Korea
Group E:
Germany
Bosnia
Chile
Australia
Group F:
Belgium
Greece
Ecuador
Honduras
Group G:
Switzerland
Netherlands
Ghana
Costa Rica
Group H:
Uruguay
Portugal
Cameroon
Mexico
Brazil
Italy
Algeria
Iran
Group B:
Uruguay
Russia
France
USA
Group C:
Spain
Croatia
Nigeria
Japan
Group D:
Argentina
England
Ivory Coast
South Korea
Group E:
Germany
Bosnia
Chile
Australia
Group F:
Belgium
Greece
Ecuador
Honduras
Group G:
Switzerland
Netherlands
Ghana
Costa Rica
Group H:
Uruguay
Portugal
Cameroon
Mexico
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Group: A
Brazil
Greece
Algeria
Australia
Group: B
Germany
Croatia
Nigeria
Costa Rica
Group: C
Argentina
Netherlands
Ghana
USA
Group: D
Spain
Bosnia
Ecuador
South Korea
Group: E
Colombia
England
Ivory Coast
Japan
Group: F
Switzerland
Italy
Chile
Iran
Group: G
Uruguay
Portugal
France
Mexico
Group: H
Belgium
Russia
Cameroon
Honduras
Brazil
Greece
Algeria
Australia
Group: B
Germany
Croatia
Nigeria
Costa Rica
Group: C
Argentina
Netherlands
Ghana
USA
Group: D
Spain
Bosnia
Ecuador
South Korea
Group: E
Colombia
England
Ivory Coast
Japan
Group: F
Switzerland
Italy
Chile
Iran
Group: G
Uruguay
Portugal
France
Mexico
Group: H
Belgium
Russia
Cameroon
Honduras
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Re: 2014 Brazil World Cup Group Stage Draw Discussion
ArgentinaM99 wrote:Brazil
Italy
France
Mexico
Cometh at me brethren.
Portugal
Chile
Japan
now THAT is a group of Death
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Argentina and Chile can't be in the same group
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Epic WC coming
This is going to be an epic WC imo. The gap in ability between teams has shrunk to the point where almost everyone has a chance to beat anyone:
Europe: Netherlands, Italy, Belgium, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, England, Russia, Bosnia, Greece, Croatia, Portugal, France
SA: Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia, Chili, Ecuador
CONCACAF: US, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras
Africa: Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Cameroun, Ghana, Algeria
Asia: Japan, South Korea, Australia, Iran
Out of these 32 teams, i'd only consider maybe 5 to be easy. All the other ones can get a result. I hope teams come to play good footy because we could get epic games from the get go... a lot of upsets are going to happen imo.
Europe: Netherlands, Italy, Belgium, Switzerland, Germany, Spain, England, Russia, Bosnia, Greece, Croatia, Portugal, France
SA: Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Colombia, Chili, Ecuador
CONCACAF: US, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras
Africa: Nigeria, Ivory Coast, Cameroun, Ghana, Algeria
Asia: Japan, South Korea, Australia, Iran
Out of these 32 teams, i'd only consider maybe 5 to be easy. All the other ones can get a result. I hope teams come to play good footy because we could get epic games from the get go... a lot of upsets are going to happen imo.
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The draw: Probable pots
Pot 1 (seeds)
Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina, Colombia, Belgium, *Uruguay, Switzerland,
Pot 2 (Concacaf, Asia)
Costa Rica, Honduras, Mexico, USA, Australia, Iran, Japan, South Korea.
Pot 3 (South America, Africa + lowest-ranked European team)
Chile, Ecuador, Algeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, France (21)
Pot 4 (Europe)
Bosnia-Herzegovinia, England, Italy, Russia, Netherlands, Portugal, Croatia, Greece.
Pot 1 (seeds)
Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina, Colombia, Belgium, *Uruguay, Switzerland,
Pot 2 (Concacaf, Asia)
Costa Rica, Honduras, Mexico, USA, Australia, Iran, Japan, South Korea.
Pot 3 (South America, Africa + lowest-ranked European team)
Chile, Ecuador, Algeria, Cameroon, Ghana, Ivory Coast, Nigeria, France (21)
Pot 4 (Europe)
Bosnia-Herzegovinia, England, Italy, Russia, Netherlands, Portugal, Croatia, Greece.
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Group A
Brasil
Croatia
Cameroon
Iran
Group B
Spain
England
Ecuador
South Korea
Group C
Argentina
Italy
Ivory Coast
Japan
Group D
Germany
Portugal
Algeria
Mexico
Group E
Belgium
Russia
Ghana
Australia
Group F
Colombia
Netherlands
France
USA
Group G
Uruguay
Bosnia
Nigeria
South Korea
Group H
Switzerland
Greece
Chile
Honduras
Brasil
Croatia
Cameroon
Iran
Group B
Spain
England
Ecuador
South Korea
Group C
Argentina
Italy
Ivory Coast
Japan
Group D
Germany
Portugal
Algeria
Mexico
Group E
Belgium
Russia
Ghana
Australia
Group F
Colombia
Netherlands
France
USA
Group G
Uruguay
Bosnia
Nigeria
South Korea
Group H
Switzerland
Greece
Chile
Honduras
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who are the 5 easy teams ? i only counted 2 .
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IMO:
Favourites: Argentina, Brasil, Spain, Germany
Possible surprises: Belgium, Colombia / Chile, France, Ghana / Nigeria
Favourites: Argentina, Brasil, Spain, Germany
Possible surprises: Belgium, Colombia / Chile, France, Ghana / Nigeria
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Ecuador, Iran, Costa Rica, Honduras and Australia.
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Costa Rica, Honduras, Iran, Australia... maybe Algeria too...farfan wrote:who are the 5 easy teams ? i only counted 2 .
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I can see the first four putting on a decent show. Australia might get destroyed though.sportsczy wrote:Ecuador, Iran, Costa Rica, Honduras and Australia.
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Forza Japan, could easily see them make a deep run this year, IF they don't get drawn up in the group of death.
Unlike 2010, where the favourite was Spain IMO. This year there is no clear favourite, but I think a South American team will win it this year, either Brazil or Argentina.
Unlike 2010, where the favourite was Spain IMO. This year there is no clear favourite, but I think a South American team will win it this year, either Brazil or Argentina.
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Ecuador only lost 2 points at home over the qualifying period, gets called easy
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Iran the team who did the double over South Korea and conceded 2 goals in 8 qualifiers managed by one of the best tacticians of modern era is counted as "EASY"
Loooooool
Loooooool
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Favorites for me: Italy, Brazil, Spain, Germany, Argentina
Dark Horses for me: Portugal, Uruguay, Netherlands, Belgium
Hard to tell but have plenty of quality: France, England, Ivory Coast, Colombia, Chile, Croatia
Tough to play: Pretty much everyone else lol.
Dark Horses for me: Portugal, Uruguay, Netherlands, Belgium
Hard to tell but have plenty of quality: France, England, Ivory Coast, Colombia, Chile, Croatia
Tough to play: Pretty much everyone else lol.
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I bet it's dull with, too many top sides shit scared of being adventurous against other top sides, playing careful defensive football.
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Germany, Brazil, Argentina, Italy, Colombia, Netherlands and arguably Spain don't play defensive football.
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Not normally, no.
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Who do you guys think is the best team in the North American/Asian pot?
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