OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended
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Re: OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended
Harmonica you are good with numbers, is it true that in the group stages C.Ronaldo only scored 4 out of 20 goals for Portugal? If true, god damn(!!) how he dragged Portugal to the world cup single-handedly!Harmonica wrote::lol:That's why he scored only in two matches, against all mighty Luxembourg last year, and only against all mighty Northern Ireland this year? Portugal won Russia and played 2 draws with Israel without any input from Cronaldo.Zealous wrote:Without Ronaldo Portugal don't make it out of the groups. I watched all of Portugal's games in the qualifiers and while they had players who do a very good job when needed without Ronaldo's influence on their attacking game they would have lost/drew a lot of the games they ended up winning just purely because they have almost zero quality goal threats.
How is it weird? Messi only won only a minor title last season, while C.ronaldo won la liga. So obviously some people would favour C.Ronaldo over Messi..farfan wrote:
the journalists who voted for the uefa award =/= general public .
on a slightly related note , it's weird how ronaldo was dead even with messi in 2012 ( 17 votes each ) but only got 3 votes in 2013..
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Wrong. The award is supposed to give to the best performing player of the year...Best player getting it and best player in winning team getting it are just coincidences of being the best performer.BarrileteCosmico wrote:The award has historically been given to either the best player or the best player in the most winning team.
Re: OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended
Doesn't really change the fact that without Ronaldo they don't make it out of the groups.Harmonica wrote::lol:That's why he scored only in two matches, against all mighty Luxembourg last year, and only against all mighty Northern Ireland this year? Portugal won Russia and played 2 draws with Israel without any input from Cronaldo.Zealous wrote:Without Ronaldo Portugal don't make it out of the groups. I watched all of Portugal's games in the qualifiers and while they had players who do a very good job when needed without Ronaldo's influence on their attacking game they would have lost/drew a lot of the games they ended up winning just purely because they have almost zero quality goal threats.
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67% of all percentages are fabricated.BarrileteCosmico wrote:I think if you asked a neutral 4/5 will say Messi is the best player in the world individually. That has not changed in 2 months.Zealous wrote:He's comfortably in the first category for many, whether or not that's the case is for you to agree or disagree with but you at least have to realize that many do see him as the best right now.BarrileteCosmico wrote:I don't understand the Ronaldo fanboys. The award has historically been given to either the best player or the best player in the most winning team. Ronaldo is neither of those. For the UEFA award in August Ribery won by some distance, Messi was comfortably 2nd and Ronaldo only got like 3 votes (ie: no one thought he should win). I expect to see a similar turnout.
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Like without any of portugal players really. Without Moutinho's passes Portugal would be bye bye.Zealous wrote:Doesn't really change the fact that without Ronaldo they don't make it out of the groups.Harmonica wrote:That's why he scored only in two matches, against all mighty Luxembourg last year, and only against all mighty Northern Ireland this year? Portugal won Russia and played 2 draws with Israel without any input from Cronaldo.Zealous wrote:Without Ronaldo Portugal don't make it out of the groups. I watched all of Portugal's games in the qualifiers and while they had players who do a very good job when needed without Ronaldo's influence on their attacking game they would have lost/drew a lot of the games they ended up winning just purely because they have almost zero quality goal threats.
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Re: OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended
A pass is only as good as the player getting the ball. The passes were good but really Ronaldo's timing and speed while making runs makes Moutinho's job a lot easier.Harmonica wrote:Like without any of portugal players really. Without Moutinho's passes Portugal would be bye bye.Zealous wrote:Doesn't really change the fact that without Ronaldo they don't make it out of the groups.Harmonica wrote::lol:That's why he scored only in two matches, against all mighty Luxembourg last year, and only against all mighty Northern Ireland this year? Portugal won Russia and played 2 draws with Israel without any input from Cronaldo.
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A pass is as important as finish. Kind of pointless of argument, Portugal is in World Cup as a team, not because of Cronaldo.Zealous wrote:A pass is only as good as the player getting the ball. The passes were good but really Ronaldo's timing and speed while making runs makes Moutinho's job a lot easier.Harmonica wrote:Like without any of portugal players really. Without Moutinho's passes Portugal would be bye bye.Zealous wrote:Doesn't really change the fact that without Ronaldo they don't make it out of the groups.
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Re: OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended
While it can be argued he carried Portugal against Sweden, he was virtually non-existant in the group stage.
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The lulz if Messi still ends up winning
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How FIFA made Cronaldo Ballon d'Or winner.
Francesc Aguilar, a journalist with Catalan-based Mundo Deportivo. It is believed that he has a vote for the award, hence how he was among the first to know about the extension. "Paco Aguilar" is listed as the Spanish journalist voter since FIFA and France Football merged their awards in 2010.
A complete farce.
"I have no words. FIFA and France Football have extended the period of voting to Nov. 29 2013. First the..."Francesc Aguilar @MDpor_elmundo
1. No tengo palabras.La FIFA y France Football amplían el plazo para las votaciones al 29 de noviembre de 2013.En principio los
"... jury had to have voted by 15th of this month at the latest. The second legs for Brazil 2014 were not included. That was just as unfair..."Francesc Aguilar @MDpor_elmundo
2.jurados debían jhaber votao como máximo el 15 de este mes. No entraban los partidos de desempate para Brasil 2014. Era tan injusto lo
"... as this change is suspicious. Little by little FIFA are ruining the Ballon d'Or with the decisions which are taking place. "Francesc Aguilar @MDpor_elmundo
y 3.anterior como sospechoso el cambio. Poco a poco se están cargando el FIFA Balón de Oro con las decisiones que se van sucediendo.
"You do not need to be a genius to see that this decision to extend the voting period for the FIFA Ballon d'Or benefits CR7."Francesc Aguilar @MDpor_elmundo
No hay que ser un genio para ver que con esta decisión de ampliar el plazo de votación para el FIFA Balón de oro se benficia a CR7.
A complete farce.
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Re: OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended
Complete joke, Ballon d'Or cannot be taken seriously anymore unless Messi wins it!
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Even that is over the top. With his goal he won them the tie, but without the passes of his teammates, he would be not carrying anyone..The_Badger wrote:While it can be argued he carried Portugal against Sweden, he was virtually non-existant in the group stage.
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Re: OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended
The award is a farce already. The Commander will bring legitimacy back to the Balloon Door.
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At this point if he doesn't win it I fear for Jiopsi, harhar, badger and Khaled's health lolCasciavit wrote:The lulz if Messi still ends up winning
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I fear for Jiopsi's health already. 4500 posts, countless hours spent typing away furiously, all for the sole purpose of convincing a forum that one guy is better at kicking a ball than another. Poor guy needs to smoke a blunt, masturbate to some shirtless Messi pictures, and calm down =/
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This whole time I have been saying that Messi doesn't deserve the ballon d'or..Zealous wrote:At this point if he doesn't win it I fear for Jiopsi, harhar, badger and Khaled's health lolCasciavit wrote:The lulz if Messi still ends up winning
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Poem for Messi. Please read and comment.
Oh Messi I am your freedom fighter.
Oh Messi you are sublime.
Oh Messi the greatest of all time.
Oh Messi you can do no wrong.
Oh Messi you are the bomb.
Oh Messi I sing your song.
Oh Messi who cares you have no height.
Oh Messi you are always right.
Oh Messi all my days protecting you.
Oh Messi all my time defending you.
Oh Messi you are my job.
Oh Messi I am your slave.
Oh Messi you are my God.
Oh Messi I am your freedom fighter.
Oh Messi you are sublime.
Oh Messi the greatest of all time.
Oh Messi you can do no wrong.
Oh Messi you are the bomb.
Oh Messi I sing your song.
Oh Messi who cares you have no height.
Oh Messi you are always right.
Oh Messi all my days protecting you.
Oh Messi all my time defending you.
Oh Messi you are my job.
Oh Messi I am your slave.
Oh Messi you are my God.
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Re: OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended
Amenronalessi wrote:Poem for Messi. Please read and comment.
Oh Messi I am your freedom fighter.
Oh Messi you are sublime.
Oh Messi the greatest of all time.
Oh Messi you can do no wrong.
Oh Messi you are the bomb.
Oh Messi I sing your song.
Oh Messi who cares you have no height.
Oh Messi you are always right.
Oh Messi all my days protecting you.
Oh Messi all my time defending you.
Oh Messi you are my job.
Oh Messi I am your slave.
Oh Messi you are my God.
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Just lol at some of the stuff i'm reading from the same posters.
2009: Ballon D'or winner should be best player on most succesful team that year.
2010: Ballon D'or winner should be given who we think is the to the best player.
2011: Ballon D'or winner should be given to best player on most successful team that year. No, goals shouldn't be a factor
2012: Ballon D'or should be given to record breaking goals. Goals are important.
2013: Ballon D'or should be given to best player on principle.
Just
2009: Ballon D'or winner should be best player on most succesful team that year.
2010: Ballon D'or winner should be given who we think is the to the best player.
2011: Ballon D'or winner should be given to best player on most successful team that year. No, goals shouldn't be a factor
2012: Ballon D'or should be given to record breaking goals. Goals are important.
2013: Ballon D'or should be given to best player on principle.
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I've already said I want Ribery to win.Zealous wrote:At this point if he doesn't win it I fear for Jiopsi, harhar, badger and Khaled's health lolCasciavit wrote:The lulz if Messi still ends up winning
Amazing how yet again the plastic RM fans make stuff up as they go along
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stay safe man. i pry 4 uThe_Badger wrote:I've already said I want Ribery to win.Zealous wrote:At this point if he doesn't win it I fear for Jiopsi, harhar, badger and Khaled's health lolCasciavit wrote:The lulz if Messi still ends up winning
Amazing how yet again the plastic RM fans make stuff up as they go along
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I dream of the day CR wins the Ballon D'Or. The butthurt here is gonna be just amazing
Only the Commander can make people, he doesn't even know exists, so so butthurt....
Only the Commander can make people, he doesn't even know exists, so so butthurt....
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Re: OFFICIAL: FIFA Ballon d'or 2013 - Voting extended
Does it really matter what we think the criterion is? It's entirely subjective to the voters.
The voters vote on what they think the best player should do or well win. Some players/coaches think you need to have a great individual season as well as team success. Others believe the best player on the team that won the most team trophies deserves to win. And, some others believe individual stats are the most important thing.
For the record, when was the last time there was a winner who won nothing in a calendar year and got awarded the Ballon d'or/ Fifa world player of the year?
The voters vote on what they think the best player should do or well win. Some players/coaches think you need to have a great individual season as well as team success. Others believe the best player on the team that won the most team trophies deserves to win. And, some others believe individual stats are the most important thing.
For the record, when was the last time there was a winner who won nothing in a calendar year and got awarded the Ballon d'or/ Fifa world player of the year?
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Ballon d'Or has won 4 times without winning anything:Casciavit wrote:
For the record, when was the last time there was a winner who won nothing in a calendar year and got awarded the Ballon d'or/ Fifa world player of the year?
56 Matthews (inaugural)
64 Law (Euro year)
70 Müller (WC-year)
78 Keegan (WC-year)
And non of those had any competition like Messi and Ribery, and non of those had sudden rule changes after the vote.
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Would you please be so kind and temper your expressions somewhat? I don't want to be forced to take further action. Thank you very much.Omniscient wrote:I fear for Jiopsi's health already. (...)
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We all pray for the RM plastics,Zealous wrote:stay safe man. i pry 4 uThe_Badger wrote:I've already said I want Ribery to win.Zealous wrote:At this point if he doesn't win it I fear for Jiopsi, harhar, badger and Khaled's health lol
Amazing how yet again the plastic RM fans make stuff up as they go along
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