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Post by harhar11 Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:39 pm

Wait? Harmonica do you actually belive that an unfit Messi is the 2nd best player in the world? That's taking your fanboism a little to far, no?

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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:42 pm

harhar11 wrote:Wait? Harmonica do you actually belive that an unfit Messi is the 2nd best player in the world? That's taking your fanboism a little to far, no?
Oh joy, the stalker quote of the day from the iniesta fangirl. Can you actually argue about things, ever?
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Post by harhar11 Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:45 pm

Stalker quote and Iniesta fangirl? How is me saying that Iniesta has been garbage this season being a fangirl but saying that an injured Messi is the 2nd best player, is not? :facepalm:

and how is it a stalker quote? This is the first time that I have quoted you in like over a month, atleast.

And yes, I can argue. Since Messi got injured, you can clearly see that he has not been fit, he hasn't even been our best player. Hence why alot of people were worried about Messi's performance before he got injured. So how can an injured Messi be the 2nd best player in the world? Because he played good against PSG? It wasn't even his performance that most people talked about after the game, it was how the mentality of the Barca players and fans changed instantly after he came on in.


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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 19, 2013 3:54 pm

harhar11 wrote:Stalker quote and Iniesta fangirl? How is me saying that Iniesta has been garbage this season being a fangirl and how is it a stalker quote? :facepalm:

And yes, I can argue. Since Messi got injured, you can clearly see that he has not been fit, he hasn't even been our best player. Hence why alot of people were worried about Messi's performance before he got injured. So how can an injured Messi be the 2nd best player in the world? Because he played good against PSG? It wasn't even his performance that most people talked about after the game, it was how the mentality of the Barca players and fans changed instantly after he came on in.
Who said it does? :facepalm:

Don't be ridiculous, Messi has been Barcelona's best player this season, even unfit, so your illogical line of thought doesn't work. Can you say who has been better for Barcelona than Messi, I would definitely like to argue that.
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Post by harhar11 Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:01 pm

Then what the hell are you talking about me being a Iniesta fangirl? I have never said anything over the top regarding Iniesta, especially not compared to what you have said about Messi.

If we are talking about the first few games before he got injured, then obviously he was the best, but since then a couple of player has been better. Like Valdes for a start, Neymar as well, he was even the best against Real Madrid and, seeing as you like stat, he is the player with the most assist in Europe, Busquets, like always, has been brilliant. That's 3 players.

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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:08 pm

harhar11 wrote:Then what the hell are you talking about me being a Iniesta fangirl? I have never said anything over the top regarding Iniesta, especially not compared to what you have said about Messi.

If we are talking about the first few games before he got injured, then obviously he was the best, but since then a couple of player has been better. Like Valdes for a start, Neymar as well, he was even the best against Real Madrid and, seeing as you like stat, he is the player with the most assist in Europe, Busquets, like always, has been brilliant. That's 3 players.
Because you are, that is settled a long ago, and you agree.

We are talking the whole this season, not first games, not last games, not clasico. Every game. Valdes has been great, but that is more reflected on how bad he was before, and comparing to goalie isn't as easy. Though I would say Valdes has been Barca's second best player.

Neymar, has been Barca's second best out field player, but you pretty deluded that if you think that scoring 1 goal from every 11 shots and making 1.9 dribbles per every turnover is anywhere near of scoring 1 goal from every 5 shots and making 6.2 dribblers per every turnover, while playing in more contested areas and being more marked, for example. And Messi should have already like 4 assists to Neymar, if the guy could actually score, yet he have 0.
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Post by harhar11 Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:13 pm

Harmonica wrote:Because you are, that is settled a long ago, and you agree.

We are talking the whole this season, not first games, not last games, not clasico. Every game. Valdes has been great, but that is more reflected on how bad he was before, and comparing to goalie isn't as easy. Though I would say Valdes has been Barca's second best player.

Neymar, has been Barca's second best out field player, but you pretty deluded that if you think that that scoring 1 goal from 11 shots and making 1.9 dribbles per turnover is anywhere near of scoring 1 goal from 5 shots and making 6.2 dribblers per turnover, for example. And Messi should have already like 4 assists to Neymar, if the guy could actually score, yet he have 0.
I never agreed. I said that Iniesta is my favorite player, and then a little behind comes Messi.

True, Messi might have had more assist if Neymar had finished better, but so could Neymar have if Messi had finished better in a couple of occasion.

And stats. Bah, useless.

Edit: I went into whoscored and they are saying that Neymar dribbles 4.0 per games and is only dispossed 0.2 more times than Messi. Neymar's stats are almost identical to Messi's, the big difference is the amount of turnovers and shot taken per game.


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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:20 pm

harhar11 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Because you are, that is settled a long ago, and you agree.

We are talking the whole this season, not first games, not last games, not clasico. Every game. Valdes has been great, but that is more reflected on how bad he was before, and comparing to goalie isn't as easy. Though I would say Valdes has been Barca's second best player.

Neymar, has been Barca's second best out field player, but you pretty deluded that if you think that that scoring 1 goal from 11 shots and making 1.9 dribbles per turnover is anywhere near of scoring 1 goal from 5 shots and making 6.2 dribblers per turnover, for example. And Messi should have already like 4 assists to Neymar, if the guy could actually score, yet he have 0.
I never agreed. I said that Iniesta is my favorite player, and then a little behind comes Messi.

True, Messi might have had more assist if Neymar had finished better, but so could Neymar have if Messi had finished better in a couple of occasion.

And stats. Bah, useless...
You agreed.

There you go again using uncertainties against exact arguments, yeah stats, the only thing exact.
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Post by harhar11 Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:27 pm

Harmonica wrote:You agreed.

There you go again using uncertainties against definite arguments, yeah stats, the only thing definitive.
I agreed that I was a Iniesta fangirl, I might have lost my memory and I might be wrong, but I don't remember ever saying that I was a Iniesta fangirl. All I said was that he was my favorite player. When I think of a fanboy, I think of someone who can't admit a negative thing about a certain player, which is 100% not me regarding Iniesta.

What I find funny with your stats are the only thing definitive, is the fact that alot of time tells a completely different story to the reality. Like that Fabregas-was-better-than-Iniesta-last-season that you were sprouting at the end of last season.

Anyway, everyone knows that it's impossible to talk to you when it comes to Messi and stats, so I will just ignore you from now on.

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Post by Harmonica Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:32 pm

harhar11 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:You agreed.

There you go again using uncertainties against definite arguments, yeah stats, the only thing definitive.
I agreed that I was a Iniesta fangirl, I might have lost my memory and I might be wrong, but I don't remember ever saying that I was a Iniesta fangirl. All I said was that he was my favorite player. When I think of a fanboy, I think of someone who can't admit a negative thing about a certain player, which is 100% not me regarding Iniesta.

What I find funny with your stats are the only thing definitive, is the fact that alot of time tells a completely different story to the reality. Like that Fabregas-was-better-than-Iniesta-last-season that you were sprouting at the end of last season.

Anyway, everyone knows that it's impossible to talk to you when it comes to Messi and stats, so I will just ignore you from now on.
Not admitting negative thing isn't fanboyism, if the negative thing is untrue or derived falsely, where as insisting something illogical and untrue is fangirlism.

You think it tells the different story, because you're illogical and your mind is weak. You can't form a collective opinion properly, and that's why you can't argue properly for it. I said Fabregas was as good or better (can't remember) in La Liga last season, which he was.

You'll ignore me? Like the last 5 times you said that, just to indirectly stalk me week after? Yeah, I would like to see you try, it would save me time to try to explain simplest of logical expressions.


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Post by Kamikaze692 Tue Nov 19, 2013 4:34 pm

This thread should be renamed to the "Harmonica and Harhar thread" eco smile
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Post by farfan Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:38 am

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/11/19/internacional/1384883082_294190.html

that's what i'm talking about..

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Post by RealGunner Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:39 am

Ronaldo cheers
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Post by guest7 Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:39 am

CRs time to shine

Well deserved tbh
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Post by LeVersacci Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:39 am

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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Post by McAgger Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:40 am

GTFI CR :bow:
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Post by RealGunner Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:40 am

This year's Ballon D'Or shortlist has 5 not 3 names on it btw

4 surely are Ibra, Messi, Ronaldo and Ribery

5th?

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Post by izzy Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:41 am

Disgraceful.

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Post by Harmonica Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:41 am

Yeah, like they are gonna change the rules after the vote. Laughing


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Post by The_Badger Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:41 am

Are FIFA and Blatter that desperate to show contrition to Ronaldo after mocking him? rofl

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Post by Casciavit Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:46 am

How accurate is that report anyways?

It wouldn't make sense to change the rules after everyone has already voted.
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Post by futbol Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:47 am

Casciavit wrote:How accurate is that report anyways?
Probably completely fake. But it's fun anyway. Laughing

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Post by farfan Wed Nov 20, 2013 1:49 am

FYI , this article was posted before the game.
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Post by The_Badger Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:02 am

Has it actually been confirmed by FIFA?

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Post by chad4401 Wed Nov 20, 2013 2:04 am

If that article is real, then it just proves Blatter is an idiot Laughing
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