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Post by S Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:27 pm

sportsczy wrote:[/url]
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Far more believable and trusted source.

And with the additions of the likes of Messi and Ramos, the wage bill is going to look a whole lot different.

Your 'facts and figures' appear to be far from reality.

Lol.  Swiss Ramble f-ed up their own post (or made it sound intentionally deceptive by not saying "m" refers to minutes, not millions).  It's 414 euros per mins played.  Not 414 million euros total wages.

Here's the table it's referring to:
https://servimg.com/view/17371606/3



No dude you're reading it wrongly. It's millions not minutes. Seems you're new to Swiss Ramble.

Your source on the other hand is some shitty site quoting UEFA as a source. There is no direct link to access that information. Doesn't seem very convincing to me.

A lot has changed in the last 3 years. You're bragging about PSG's netspend from the last two seasons yet other clubs have hardly spent anything during the same period.

Besides all those free transfers involve millions in commission fees and signing on fees. You can hardly call them 'free transfers' anymore.

You live in a fantasy land if you think PSG's wage bill is reasonable or they're spending 'wisely'. This is just PSG being PSG. They took advantage of a situation which decimated most football clubs in Europe and played their cards right when the superleague project failed.

Now they have UEFA in their pockets and they can do as they please.

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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:40 pm

Directly from UEFA:

https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFiles/Download/OfficialDocument/uefaorg/Clublicensing/02/63/79/75/2637975_download.pdf

page 89 has the club wages.  Here's a screenshot of it.

UEFA Financial Fair Play - Page 14 Screen12

So in short, Swiss Ramble, in this instance, is inaccurate.  Has good info though.  But as per all these sites, they can't be 100% relied upon.  Always need to go to the source.  I think they tried to extrapolate wages by saying that wages at PSG grew 24% from 2017 to 2018... so if you multiply it for 2 years, you get above 400 mil.  Well, that did't happen. The wage table for PSG as of 2020 was actually ~2% less than 2018 mainly because Cavani and Thiago Silva left and 2018 was the year they added both Mbappe and Neymar, hence the 24% growth.

So the 334 mil euro number in 2018 is actually higher than it is today (pre-Messi).

The very important number really is this:  wages are 62% of revenue at PSG.  That's well below the requirement.
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:56 pm

Formal complaint launched to try to prevent PSG from signing Messi, rationale UEFA FFA violation. Doubt if it will works, possibly delay, but it will almost certainly prevent a Mbappe renewal (was previously reported as 40M per season (same as reported for Messi) and will likely necessitate sales, particularly high salaried.

Welcome Mbappe to Madrid!
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 08, 2021 5:58 pm

a complaint by who?  Barca?  As if with the ESL, UEFA or European Commission is going to get in the way of PSG signing anyone.  Besides FFP violations are retrospective, not proactive.  So if PSG is found in violation, they will face penalties a year from now. So using FFP as the reason means following FFP protocol for finding and punishing violations.

By the way, they are not in violation.  

All about nothing.


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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:00 pm

Complaint filed aiming to block Messi's PSG move by lawyer Juan Branco on behalf of Barça --> https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2021/08/08/610fec07ca474146668b4581.html

Just as I thought, PSG have to sell €173m worth of players before the end of the transfer window:
UEFA Financial Fair Play - Page 14 Branco10

The lawyer in question is one tough son of a bitch. He was hired previously by very powerful people and politicians like Mélenchon.

I doubt it will stop the move though. We'll see.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:02 pm

Who is Juan Branco lol.  He's a 31 year old French communist political activist and lawyer. He's nobody DoC.

And that budget he's talking about had 150 mil budget for transfers... of which PSG has only spent 65 mil since most of its transfers were free.  And the DNCG is for the French League.  If they are in deficit of their budget, all they need to do is put in a bank guarantee for the deficit amount.  It has nothing to with anything here.

What a load of shit.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:13 pm

I wouldn't exactly call him a nobody. He's still very young, but he's an outstanding debater. He was hired by guys like Julian Assange, Mélenchon and now Barça. Surely that's not for nothing.

Like I said, I don't expect this complaint to block the move, but it will surely put some pressure on PSG with regards to FFP.

In case you want to see the full complaint: https://juan-branco.fr/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Lionel-Messi-1.pdf
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Post by farfan Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:18 pm

Barça wishes Messi good luck, then proceeds to attempt to block his next move. Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:22 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:I wouldn't exactly call him a nobody. He's still very young, but he's an outstanding debater. He was hired by guys like Julian Assange, Mélenchon and now Barça. Surely that's not for nothing.

Like I said, I don't expect this complaint to block the move, but it will surely put some pressure on PSG with regards to FFP.

In case you want to see the full complaint: https://juan-branco.fr/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Lionel-Messi-1.pdf

Dude, he was charged with rape 2 months ago:  https://news.in-24.com/lifestyle/celebrities/58321.html

And is still being investigated for it.  He has no experience.  None.  He just finished law school and is trying to make a name for himself.  

Melanchon is a complete clown and piece of shit.  He's looking for young communists to bring into his ranks.

I mean look at him UEFA Financial Fair Play - Page 14 Medium_2021-06-03-a3c7898e93

He doesn't even look old enough to drive legally lol.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:27 pm

farfan wrote:Barça wishes Messi good luck, then proceeds to attempt to block his next move. Laughing

Yes I thought it was weird too. And what do they expect, really? Let's even consider the very unlikely event that this complaint somehow, miraculously, blocks the PSG move, do Barça seriously think they will be able to sign Messi then? They already know they are way past the allowed salary cap (even without Messi).

I think they are just trying to put some pressure on UEFA to keep a closer eye on PSG's transfer activities. I also think that Barça is not going to be the last club to file a complaint against PSG. I think PSG's massive wealth will inevitably create them envious enemies, enemies who will try at every turn to block their moves, especially now that they are snapping Galacticos for fun.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:31 pm

sportsczy wrote:
The Demon of Carthage wrote:I wouldn't exactly call him a nobody. He's still very young, but he's an outstanding debater. He was hired by guys like Julian Assange, Mélenchon and now Barça. Surely that's not for nothing.

Like I said, I don't expect this complaint to block the move, but it will surely put some pressure on PSG with regards to FFP.

In case you want to see the full complaint: https://juan-branco.fr/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Lionel-Messi-1.pdf

Dude, he was charged with rape 2 months ago:  https://news.in-24.com/lifestyle/celebrities/58321.html

And is still being investigated for it.  He has no experience.  None.  He just finished law school and is trying to make a name for himself.  

Melanchon is a complete clown and piece of shit.  He's looking for young communists to bring into his ranks.

I mean look at him UEFA Financial Fair Play - Page 14 Medium_2021-06-03-a3c7898e93

He doesn't even look old enough to drive legally lol.

Sports, I didn't say he was Mother Teresa Laughing

I only commented on his skills as a lawyer because I watched him on many occasions absolutely decimate his opponents.

Anyway, I repeat, I don't expect this complaint to block the move.
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Post by S Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:32 pm

farfan wrote:Barça wishes Messi good luck, then proceeds to attempt to block his next move. Laughing


They're probably not blocking his transfer but this looks like power play from Barca in an attempt to penalize PSG. They probably must be hating PSG more than Madrid lol. Afterall it was them that kickstarted Barca's downfall.

We'll wait and see how PSG are going to manage all of this without breaching FFP rules (if there are any now).
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Post by Casciavit Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:33 pm

Neymar's transfer to PSG has to have had the biggest ripple effect on football in recent memory.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:35 pm

Yeah i get it DoC.

I just don't like how hypocritical clubs like Madrid, Barca and Juve are (the management). Even OM. They all had their galactico era and it was just fine. Their money came from public funds and/or billionaires... and it was just fine too. But PSG isn't allowed to have its own galactico era? Why not??

And I'm also tired of this racist "arab" nonsense.
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Post by sportsczy Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:39 pm

Barca did it to themselves.  It was a despicable practice to publicly ask (both management and players like Pique) for players on opposing clubs to clash and rebel so that they could force a move to Barca.  They tried to do that with Verratti and Thiago Silva.  Did it with Coutinho, Suarez, Dembele, etc.

Karma is a bitch.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:41 pm

No argument there. Madrid and Barça have absolutely no legs to stand on. We pillaged clubs for decades signing the best players for record fees and inflating the market like a motherfucker. We absolutely have no right to criticize PSG now.
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Post by titosantill Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:53 pm

this lawyer that nobody knew yesterday all of a sudden we talking about him like he's johnnie cochran? deal is over, even though they want to keep him they cant cos they still have to sell players, and laporta isnt keen on the cvc investment.....besides i dont think a club of psg status is lacking when it comes to lawyers and litigations. this is just a fanboy not being able to take the loss like a man and move on.....messi was going to leave at some point....jeez. not psg's fault they didnt sell messi for 200 mill last year. the man is a free agent, you cant have him but u wanna stop others from signing him smh

even as a madrid fan i love sportsczy's last comment - it was cool for us and the other traditional big clubs to have their galactico eras but now its a crime for psg city and those other clubs to have theirs? people should focus on building their own team and quit this complaint nonsense. i bet the same fan was cheering on when they signed griezmann coutinho et al and psg didnt cry about that
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Post by S Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:55 pm

sportsczy wrote:Yeah i get it DoC.

I just don't like how hypocritical clubs like Madrid, Barca and Juve are (the management).  Even OM.  They all had their galactico era and it was just fine.  Their money came from public funds and/or billionaires... and it was just fine too.  But PSG isn't allowed to have its own galactico era?  Why not??

And I'm also tired of this racist "arab" nonsense.


I don't think anyone would've had a problem seeing PSG go ham on the transfer market if it wasn't for most football clubs battling a pandemic situation.

And no I'm not talking about the big teams. Look at Ligue 1 clubs for example. It's a sad situation for most of them. Some clubs are barely surviving and PSG be like nah, let's build a galactico team while watching the rest of them crash and burn.

Atleast in the PL, thanks to their massive sponsorships and TV contracts, it's somewhat understandable.

Instead of completely suspending FFP, this was the ideal time for financial regulation in football. Football clubs are losing too much money as it is. This issue is way bigger than one club taking full advantage of a pandemic situation  and aiming to build an empire.
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Aug 08, 2021 6:59 pm

Trying not to but let me just say it once, blame Neymar and PSG for that devilish move thats had the domino effect leading us to today Razz PSG planned this all along, to win the CL u have to cripple your biggest rivals for it off the field as well as on it Razz
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Post by titosantill Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:05 pm

sportsczy wrote:Barca did it to themselves.  It was a despicable practice to publicly ask (both management and players like Pique) for players on opposing clubs to clash and rebel so that they could force a move to Barca.  They tried to do that with Verratti and Thiago Silva.  Did it with Coutinho, Suarez, Dembele, etc.

Karma is a bitch.


they did it with fabregas too....only to dump him like 2 yrs after
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:12 pm

S, I get your point, but why should PSG care? I'm pretty sure if it was all sunshine and rainbows at Madrid, Florentino wouldn't give two fucks about struggling clubs and he would try to get Mbappé, Haaland and whoever else is available.

Remember, PSG is maybe taking full advantage of a financial collapse from a global pandemic, but they are doing so using their money. They shouldn't stop strengthening their squad just because the other clubs are broke. That's the other clubs' problem, not PSG's.

If they are found guilty of some FFP breach, I hope they get sanctioned. But until then, I can't blame them for trying to assemble the best possible team.
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Post by Doc Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:15 pm

farfan wrote:Barça wishes Messi good luck, then proceeds to attempt to block his next move. Laughing

I fucking love it. They wished Neymar best of luck and went after him. That club deserves every thing they are currently getting.
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Post by Myesyats Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:30 pm

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farfan wrote:Barça wishes Messi good luck, then proceeds to attempt to block his next move. Laughing

I fucking love it. They wished Neymar best of luck and went after him. That club deserves every thing they are currently getting.

Went after him how?
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Post by Myesyats Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:38 pm

farfan wrote:Barça wishes Messi good luck, then proceeds to attempt to block his next move. Laughing

Make up your mind people. Either you hate QSG or not. They clearly abuse the system and we should use every tool possible to make life harder for them.
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Post by farfan Sun Aug 08, 2021 9:58 pm

The financial problems that made it impossible for you to keep Messi or even register new players have nothing to do with PSG. Laughing maybe fix those first before making life harder for another team and by extension your GOAT.
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Post by Doc Sun Aug 08, 2021 10:10 pm

I don't hate PSG at all, neither here nor there with them. I just know that they'll probably make a quarters or semis before unceremoniously getting KO'ed by a better team.
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