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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:01 am

According to Bild, via AS, Barcelona are in advanced talks with Dortmund and Hummels will sign for barca for the next couple of seasons.

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/03/27/primera/1364374860_672904.html

Hummels and Pique in tthat high line Sad
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Post by The Sanchez Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:06 am

We need someone but preferrably not Hummels. Can't stand two slow centrebacks playing a high defensive line.
Sakho, Dede, Botia, Barta, Ogbonna, Kosc would be all better options imo.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:06 am

I am dissapointed if true.

Nothing to do with Hummels, he can play, hes a class defender.

Just not what we need.

Need a defender first, footballer second. I am also tired of being the most unathletic great team lol
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Post by Mr Nick09 Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:08 am

Hummels is so good in the air, will make barca near invulnerable in the air

btw, Poor Song Sad
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Post by Onyx Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:10 am

Pique and Puyol have done alright playing in a highline imo and they're not known for being the quickest. However with Barca being poor defensively this season, they might just want someone who's quicker, good on the ball etc and fits the CB role.

Montoya---Pique---Hummels---Alba

hmm

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Post by The Sanchez Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:11 am

Well of course if he signs he will be playing in front of Mascherano MT...
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:13 am

Mascherano will bench him pirat
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:28 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:Hummels is so good in the air, will make barca near invulnerable in the air

btw, Poor Song Sad

Not even he can save us.

Think about it, Barca vs any team at random...lets go Man City.

Kompany, Lescott, Dzeko, Yaya and Javi Garcia all aerial threats, all would probably start in a game vs us...at least 4 of them.

We have to do zone just so we dont end up matching up one of those with someone like Alves and moving right into the middle of the box.

Hummels and Pique in the middle of the zone, Busquets in there too. Alves at the back and probably Alba at the front...still going to get creamed at the front or back by anyone of thosee 5 and at least once in 3 attemps vs Busquets or Pique.

Swap City with 8 out of 10 teams and its the same story.
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:46 am

dont want him at all, please dont be true

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:52 am

I think sometimes Barca fans get too hung up on needing transfers to be perfect. I think knowing our management, we could do worse. Remember last summer when Vertonghen was basically begging us to sign him and we turned a cold shoulder? Most at the Barca section said they didn't want him, but I'm sure that if we actually did not many would've minded to keep him and some have even regretted not signing him when we had a chance.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:01 am

Sure, but if the question you want Vertoghen or nothing...they would of said Vertoghen..the only reason I think any fans said no to Vertoghen was with the assumption we would get someone else.
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Post by Albiceleste Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:04 am

Jan Sad if only Barcas management read my posts Sad

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:26 am

The Franchise wrote:Sure, but if the question you want Vertoghen or nothing...they would of said Vertoghen..the only reason I think any fans said no to Vertoghen was with the assumption we would get someone else.

The thing is I see it as more like this "You can sign either this player who is not a perfect fit but is a good player in his own right... or we can sign this midfielder from arsenal and play him at CB"

To me the choice is clear. I just have no faith in the mgmt.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:27 am

The Sanchez wrote:We need someone but preferrably not Hummels. Can't stand two slow centrebacks playing a high defensive line.
Sakho, Dede, Botia, Barta, Ogbonna, Kosc would be all better options imo.

Really not Barca material
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Post by Red Alert Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:41 am

Rich mans Pique.

Hummels + Mascherano in Tito's mind? hmm
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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:14 am

Please don't be true. Dortmund must keep their players.
If this happens, it'll be expensive as f*ck, btw. - Hummels got more than a few years left on his contract.
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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:19 am

Mr Nick09 wrote:According to Bild, via AS, Barcelona are in advanced talks with Dortmund and Hummels will sign for barca for the next couple of seasons.

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/03/27/primera/1364374860_672904.html

Hummels and Pique in tthat high line Sad

Dear god, you all shocked me there for a second. I just read the original article in Bild, here's the pointers:

- NO, I repeat: NO advanced talks with Dortmund.
- Barca have internally declared Hummels a transfer target, this is true
- Dortmund have released a statement they're planning with Hummels in the squad "for the long term"
- Watzke said they'd rather qualify for the CL with Hummels, than sell and miss out on revenue the size of his transfer value
- No official contacts between Dortmund and Barca as of yet
- Even the trigger-happy Bild journalists think this is highly unlikely to happen
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Post by billy_gr Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:33 am

good...why have two similar palyers in the CB anyway.
Bring Vertoghen ffs
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Post by Toffer Harley Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:33 am

yea it's not even close, thanks to dodgy translation work done by foreign journalists once more. with all the shit bild is posting each day, translations really have to be accurate otherwise u would tend to think that north korea is starting WW3 each minute.

other than that, i disagree with the common assumption (since most people don't watch hummels constantly) that he is some kind of playmaking CB only. his defending is flawless 90% of the time. he can read the game like no other defender in germany and his tackling is resolute. further, he isn't speedy gonzales but he's just above the average speed of a good CB i'd say.

the only bad thing about him are his enormous ego and occassional complacency which lead him to think that his attendance is enough to stop attacks. other than that he's got all the tools to be one of the very best CBs, which he is already close to, if not THE best. he would have to accept a subordinate role at barcelona and that should give him more of an incentive to work on his weaknesses.
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Post by Zealous Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:56 am

Bild is the Marca of Germany lol
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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:34 pm

Or the Sun of Germany, if you're English.
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Post by The Franchise Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:45 pm

Toffer Harley wrote:yea it's not even close, thanks to dodgy translation work done by foreign journalists once more. with all the shit bild is posting each day, translations really have to be accurate otherwise u would tend to think that north korea is starting WW3 each minute.

other than that, i disagree with the common assumption (since most people don't watch hummels constantly) that he is some kind of playmaking CB only. his defending is flawless 90% of the time. he can read the game like no other defender in germany and his tackling is resolute. further, he isn't speedy gonzales but he's just above the average speed of a good CB i'd say.

the only bad thing about him are his enormous ego and occassional complacency which lead him to think that his attendance is enough to stop attacks. other than that he's got all the tools to be one of the very best CBs, which he is already close to, if not THE best. he would have to accept a subordinate role at barcelona and that should give him more of an incentive to work on his weaknesses.

Noone said he cant defend or isnt a good defender, simply he doesnt fit and he doesnt.

Two great defenders dont always fit together if all the other factors dont work.

And I dont think anyone has to watch Dortmund week in, week out to see he is not very quick.
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Post by Art Morte Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:46 pm

I thought Bild was a good source smoking
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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:55 pm

They're very often the first source. But they're also wrong about half the time, which might be down to their tendency to make shit up.

Even though, the Bild article was then even mistranslated, so that's how you get the really bullshit news. Very Happy
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Post by Toffer Harley Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:03 pm

Art Morte wrote:I thought Bild was a good source smoking

they have the most informed editors when it comes to sports. but in this case the translation is just wrong. they actually said that some director or management dude at barca has the task to get hummels at the end of the season and hummel's father said that his son always has an eye open for such clubs but he won't necessarily switch. hummels himself said a few days ago that he wants dortmund to receive a chunk of money for him if he is to leave.

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Noone said he cant defend or isnt a good defender, simply he doesnt fit and he doesnt.

Two great defenders dont always fit together if all the other factors dont work.

And I dont think anyone has to watch Dortmund week in, week out to see he is not very quick.

no but to make a fair assessment of a him you would have to watch him more for sure. when i read ...
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Need a defender first, footballer second.
...then his defensive capabilities are definitely understated. above all, he is a great defender, everything else are just accessories. he's not badstuber.

and if supersonic speed is so vital then u might wanna get his backup santana instead.
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