Re: Neymar Watch

by RealGunner Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:03 pm

So we have Bankz who rates Neymar ahead of Messi and Suarez and will undermine Suarez to big up Neymar

Then we have Futbol who rates Suarez ahead of every legend there is and doesn't rate Neymar

Then we have Harmonica who only rates Messi

It's like we have a forum version of MSN

by futbol Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:06 pm

Meh, you can sub me off for @alexjanosik who is more worthy to assume that role. I'm just doing it for the luls. Razz

by S Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:26 pm

Looks like the RG wind-up job has worked out perfectly.
He's been infected now.Give him some drugs and he'll be fine (:

by futbol Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:27 pm

To answer seriously though: I still don't consider him up there with Dinho yet but I already changed my mind from a couple of months ago and think it is already a lot closer than I imagined. He made a huge step forward this season. Suddenly he dribbles and passes much much better and looks a more complete player and he still has a lot of room to grow. He's only 23 after all. Last season he looked like he was going down the Cristiano route of becoming just a lethal finisher and that would have been a pitty with his potential. This season Coachessi seems to have had a word with him to not neglect other parts of his game.

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:35 pm

If Dinho was having his peak today, the internet would freak out after every game with countless vines tbh

by Bankz Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:36 pm

Lol, people in this forum. So neymar is what he is because of suarez now? I like how the without messi, neymar and suarez are nothing has been buried this season, I love how the Neymar doesn't assist myth has died, I also love how the neymar doesn't assist suarez has also gone into oblivion too. Well, the last time I checked, barcelona won 1 CL with barca and just 2 league titles with the worse real madrid of all time.

Neymar hasn't surpassed dinho yet, but he's already won more or at the very least same as dinho in little over 2 seasons at barca in club football and will definitely surpass dinho in no time. Dem lulz when that actually happens..

by Socur Toxanarosa Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:37 pm

RealGunner wrote:Has he surpassed Dinho?

He is a much better player for sure even if he didn't achieved more than Ronaldinho yet, who was a great player but a big choker.

by S Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:41 pm

This current Neymar is in no shape or form better than Ronaldinho.

Absolute bull.

by futbol Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:44 pm

S wrote:This current Neymar is in no shape or form better than Ronaldinho.

Absolute bull.

This. So lucky to be playing alongside the 3 GOATs Messi, Suarez and Iniesta.

by Bankz Tue Dec 22, 2015 10:49 pm

Vines? There's nothing that would go viral.. Its just selective appraisal tbh

I could also bring up a million ridiculous vines bout Neymars ridiculous dribbles and controls too.. Even if we just go back to barcas last game alone against river plate.

Infact, Neymar could virtually dribble a whole 11 players and score with a scissor kick at the end of the move and you'll still choose to ignore it anyway.

Like the beginning of this thread, the lulz at dem tears as things keep unfolding.

by M99 Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:06 pm

Jesus Christ this forum has lost any middle ground it might have had.

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:09 pm

I don't understand Bankz' post tbh.

Anyway, what I was saying, when comparing current players to past players we mustn't forget that our present is much more hyped and amplified.
I was asking you to imagine how a player like Dinho would be hyped in this current media and social media environment, because that could give us a sense too on how to make the comparison.

by Socur Toxanarosa Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:14 pm

Ronaldinho is insanely overrated because he did a bunch of cirque du soleil tricks that superior footballers doesn't try because there's no actual purpose, even if they have the capacity to do it.

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:16 pm

on the contrary, cirque de soleil tricks have become underrated since there's no column for them in a whoscored stat.

they serve no purpose except raising the fan out of his seat in pure joy and exhilaration..

by Myesyats Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:38 pm

Make love not war

by Bankz Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:51 pm

@socur exactly. As if there's one single move that dinho did that Neymar can't do closing his eyes.. I even doubt dinho has attempted a lambretta once (even in commercials) how much more make it a signature move like neymar did everyday in brazil Laughing

With dinho its always about "oh look at that magic" or like he led a team neymar can't lead, when a small 23 year old neymar is busy banging in goals on his way to winning trophies left right and centre.

He's already won all dinho has won at club level both in europe and SA in his career. Infact at 23, Neymar runs circles around dinho as far as talent, achievement and careers go.

Neymar at 23 trophy cabinet

A CL winner,
A La liga winner,
A Spanish cup winner,
A CWC winner,
A Supercup winner,
A Euro super cup winner,
A Libertadores winner,
A Suderamricana winner,
A Brasilian cup winner,
and numerous state championship winner
A confederations cup winner.

Neymar Awards at 23

Puskas award
Fifa young player of the year
South america best player (*2)
South american top scorer
La liga south american MVP
UEFA CL top scorer
Spanish cup top scorer
Libertadores MVP
Libertadores top scorer
Brasilian cup top scorer
Brasilian cup MVP
Brasilian league MVP
Brasilian league best striker
Brasilian top scorer
Paulister MVP (*3)
Paulister top scorer
Recopa Sudamericana MVP
Recopa sudamericana top scorer
Balon d'or nomination ....

This guy won a hors concors ffs!!! Laughing

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:52 pm

Bankz wrote:@socur exactly. As if there's one single move that dinho did that Neymar can't do closing his eyes..

right...

Bankz, can I ask how old you are, roughly?

by futbol Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:54 pm

I hope not older than 12. I seriously do.

by Bankz Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:55 pm

Lol, obviously I was exagerating. Laughing

But yeah, u get my point. Anything dinho did with the ball, neymar could do it over and over again..

by Bankz Tue Dec 22, 2015 11:56 pm

Coming from a suarez fanboy not older than 10? hmm

@hans. Is that all you've got? :facepalm:

Inb4 oh dem fanboys are here again.. Laughing

by Hapless_Hans Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:06 am

I don't get what you're about, Bankz.

Most of all, I haven't said a word about Neymar at all Laughing

Since the topic was Neymar vs Ronaldinho, I was just meaning to remind everyone what a breathtakingly spectacular player Ronaldinho was, especially since I'm not entirely sure you're old enough to have witnessed any of it.

by futbol Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:15 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:I don't get what you're about, Bankz.

Most of all, I haven't said a word about Neymar at all

Since the topic was Neymar vs Ronaldinho, I was just meaning to remind everyone what a breathtakingly spectacular player Ronaldinho was, especially since I'm not entirely sure you're old enough to have witnessed any of it.

Inb4 DEM Müller fanboys.

Neymar at 23:

Honours
Club

Santos[214]

Campeonato Paulista: 2010, 2011, 2012
Copa do Brasil: 2010
Copa Libertadores: 2011
Recopa Sudamericana: 2012

Barcelona[214]

La Liga: 2014–15
Copa del Rey: 2014–15
Supercopa de España: 2013
UEFA Champions League: 2014–15
UEFA Super Cup: 2015
FIFA Club World Cup: 2015

International

Brazil[214]

South American Youth Championship: 2011
Superclásico de las Américas: 2011, 2012, 2014
Olympic Silver Medal: 2012
FIFA Confederations Cup: 2013

Individual

Young Player of the Year: 2011

Campeonato Brasileiro Série A Best Player: 2011

Campeonato Brasileiro Série A Championship Squad: 2010, 2011, 2012

Brazilian Silver Ball: 2010, 2011

Brazilian Golden Ball: 2011

Golden Boot: 2010, 2011, 2012 – Most goals in all competition in Brazil

Copa do Brasil Top scorer: 2010

South American Youth Championship Top scorer: 2011

FIFA Club World Cup Bronze Ball: 2011

South American Footballer of the Year: 2011, 2012

FIFA Puskás Award: 2011

Campeonato Paulista Top scorer: 2012

Copa Libertadores MVP: 2011

Copa Libertadores Top scorer: 2012 (tied with Matías Alustiza)

FIFA Confederations Cup Golden Ball: 2013

FIFA Confederations Cup Bronze Shoe: 2013

FIFA Confederations Cup Dream Team: 2013

FIFA World Cup Bronze Boot: 2014

FIFA World Cup Dream Team: 2014

Samba Gold: 2014.[215]

UEFA Champions League Top scorer: 2014–15 (tied with Cristiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi)
UEFA Champions League Team of the Season: 2014–15[216]

BAH gahd.

Pretending Müller is better. :facepalm:

Ghostzard still ghosting? rofl

*bleep* Insane shit... Those technique and *bleep* controls tho

That being said, Neymar is 3 times the player he is when he's the man leading a team. Imo, he needs to go to a team (as painful as that sounds) that will build around him if he wants to actually dominate the game.

Has most chances created in europe.
Most
dribbles completed in europe.
Most forward
passes in europe.
Spanish league top scorer.
Gud lord!!! Those are some insane level shit going on there, just what he can do when he has the team built aroung him.

Comparing Neymar to Ghostzard, bah gahd. RIP Gil. rofl

by Bankz Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:23 am

@hans

Really? And u expect me to take your posts seriously? Anyway, I agree with you. Dinho is probably the best thing since ethanol and I probably don't know what he even looks like, and yes, neymar is no good and is probably worse than vampetta of brasil with a control of emile heskey.. Happy now?

Anyway I'm done with this. Have a nice day.

by Hapless_Hans Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:25 am

Bankz wrote:Lol, obviously I was exagerating. But yeah, u get my point. Anything dinho did with the ball, neymar could do it over and over again..

So wait.. you were not exaggerating, then hmm

futbol wrote:

BAH gahd.

Pretending Müller is better.

Ghostzard still ghosting?

*bleep* Insane shit... Those technique and *bleep* controls tho

That being said, Neymar is 3 times the player he is when he's the man leading a team. Imo, he needs to go to a team (as painful as that sounds) that will build around him if he wants to actually dominate the game.

Has most chances created in europe.
Most
dribbles completed in europe.
Most forward
passes in europe.
Spanish league top scorer.
Gud lord!!! Those are some insane level shit going on there, just what he can do when he has the team built aroung him.

Comparing Neymar to Ghostzard, bah gahd. RIP Gil.

Would you say that if Neymar keeps it up another season or two he should be considered maybe the best player ever?
IMO I do.

by Hapless_Hans Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:27 am

Bankz wrote:@hans

Really? And u expect me to take your posts seriously? Anyway, I agree with you. Dinho is probably the best thing since ethanol and I probably don't know what he even looks like, and yes, neymar is no good and is probably worse than vampetta of brasil with a control of emile heskey.. Happy now?

Anyway I'm done with this. Have a nice day.

done with what? Laughing

Are you having a meltdown now just by working yourself up? Laughing

by futbol Wed Dec 23, 2015 12:30 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Would you say that if Neymar keeps it up another season or two he should be considered maybe the best player ever?
IMO I do.

Neymar is already the best player ever.

Dishmar slaving hard for Missessmehssessi only thing holding him back.

Bah gahd.

So Neymar has scored 26 goals since hazard last scored for chelsea? rofl

So Robinho scored 54 goals in 8 seasons in europe (from 21-29 years old) while Neymar has scored 70 goals in 2+ seasons? :facepalm:

So hazard has 21 less goals (49) than Neymar (70) in 80 more games for chelsea? 80 freaking more games? Shocked

So in 35 less games and in less than half the season, Neymar has already equalled hazards all time best season for chelsea? In 35 less freaking games? rofl

(Neymar 16 goals in 17 games vs Hazard 17 goals in 52 games)

rofl

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