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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:08 pm

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:If that's our line up who will u play up front, podolski or Walcott? I can't help but see it as a risk if it's walcott

I think it's like this:

Szczesny
Sagna Mertesacker Koscielny Vermaelen
Arteta Wilshere
Ramsey Cazorla Podolski
Walcott

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Post by RealGunner Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:41 pm

Our best matches have all come with Giroud upfront though... Plus his aerial ability is an immense asset for defending corners. We will be against Mandzukic, Van buyten, Martinez, Dante and Muller on set pieces...

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Post by Wilson37 Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:56 pm

Remember Inter in 2003? Remember Real Madrid in 2006? Remember Barcelona in 2011? Remember AC Milan last year?
Arsenal fans, now is the time to show your support... :bow:
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:57 pm

RealGunner wrote:Our best matches have all come with Giroud upfront though... Plus his aerial ability is an immense asset for defending corners. We will be against Mandzukic, Van buyten, Martinez, Dante and Muller on set pieces...


I've been saying this all the time, and it's not like Walcott is not influential on the right wing... he's arguably even better there. But I can understand why Wenger would play Ramsey on the right, Alaba will help Ribery in attack all the time and Ramsey offers that defensive work which Walcott doesn't.

But if it's a:

Arteta Ramsey
Cazorla Wilshere Podolski
Walcott

It doesn't make sense, Cazorla doesn't offer the defensive work that Ramsey would offer, Walcott's pace either.

Giroud is also a fantastic super sub, he can come on and influence the game with a late header or something.
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:03 pm

------Arteta--------Ramsey
Walcott--Wilshere Cazorla
--------------Podolski----------

This looks good imo.
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:04 pm

Poldi centrally No have we not learned from Swansea and Sunderland?
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:06 pm

Manuel Neuer said he most times has nothing to do for 90 minutes during games that he won't bother having a shower thereafter.
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:07 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:Poldi centrally No have we not learned from Swansea and Sunderland?

I have a feeling, Gervias will start up front. Proud rofl
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Post by Wilson37 Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:10 pm

RealGunner wrote:Our best matches have all come with Giroud upfront though... Plus his aerial ability is an immense asset for defending corners. We will be against Mandzukic, Van buyten, Martinez, Dante and Muller on set pieces...

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it is as simple as that.. this is not the time to experiment Walcott again.. i personally dont consider that trial as a success, eventhough he scored a few goals as CF.. he is better at the wings where his strengths come into play and his weakness can be hidden..
eventhough Girouds finishing is poor, he adds new dimensions to our play.. those setup chances, lofted passes, hold up for hoof balls and the defensive work which no other player in our squad can put as CF... just need to provide him those service from crosses and setpieces.. dont expect him to create his goals himself as RVP does occassionally..
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:12 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:Poldi centrally No have we not learned from Swansea and Sunderland?

I have a feeling, Gervias will start up front. Proud rofl

Imagine Gervais doing a "Arshavin" and score tonight Laughing
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:14 pm

urbaNRoots wrote:
Raptorgunner wrote:
urbaNRoots wrote:Poldi centrally No have we not learned from Swansea and Sunderland?

I have a feeling, Gervias will start up front. Proud rofl

Imagine Gervais doing a "Arshavin" and score tonight Laughing

We need a miracle to win or tie the game, Gervais big forehead could be the answer. :bow:
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Post by Raptorgunner Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:26 pm

Lets go Arsenal.

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Post by furiouswindbottom Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:37 pm

Ramsey?

Some of you must have been watching a different team to me.

He's had a couple of ok games and a load of below average ones. Bayern will RAPE him. No way for me. Just my opinion guys, not a Ramsey hater but he's not what we need tonight.

Szczesny

Sagna Mert Kos TV

-------Arteta
Diaby---------Wilshere

Cazorla Walcott Podolski

That would be my team. Diaby to give that extra bit of cover and he can break forward if needed. I would also keep a close eye on Cazorla. As good as he is (brilliant) he's looking tired as he's been over-played. Wenger gave him rest at the weekend of course, so hopefully he's on it. If not, the pace of Ox would be my replacement if he's looking tired.

I like Giroud but he struggles against top defenders. Walcott is a bit of an unknown quantity as a CF...even for us. He can beat a man. He can finish. And he is quicker than all of their players. This will scare them and force them NOT to play too high a line, which is the way they like to play.

Force them to defend deeper, and use the space between their back 4 and midfield well enough and we can win this. I'm usually not too bad at predicting Wenger in the CL, so we'll see. But I expect Diaby as extra cover on the defensive right side of midfield and Walcott up front.

COYG!
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:44 pm

It's nice to have options available, let's see how well Wenger does.
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Post by Wilson37 Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:11 pm

6unner wrote:
Szczesny
Sagna Mert Kos Verm
Ramsey Wilshere Cazorla
walcott Giroud Podolski

This is the lineup that I would like to see.
that is the first llineup without Arteta..
Ramsey for Arteta ? hmm
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Post by SamuelJayC Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:11 pm

Wouldn't take any notice of the Mirror's likely Arsenal XI.

I had a look at 5 or 6 papers at my local supermarket on the way to work and all of them predicted different teams! lol

We'll just have to wait until 6.45pm.
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Post by Bellabong Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:34 pm

Tactical thoughts:


Will both teams fight for possession or will one concede it willingly?

Will Wenger stay true to his 4-4-2 pressing which would be a massive risk or press as 4-2-3-1 telling the CF to mark Dante and force the ball to van Buyten, Bayerns weakest passer?

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Post by MJ Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:46 pm

The difference in bench quality is absolutely astonishing.
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Post by timzink Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:49 pm

Why would you not start Giroud ? He would allow Walcott the room to make runs between the fullback and centre back which he can make so effectively . Packing the midfield is unlikely to yield much joy against a Bayern team that is so strong on the wings and which is also likely to dominate possession anyway . and we all know Arsenal are awful at pressing teams so is likely that a midfield of ramsey/diaby arteta wilshere carzola and podolski is capable of pressing for the entire match ? I do not think so .
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Post by El Gunner Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:06 pm

Bayern's whole squad is like super-great!!!

Would I be wrong if I said they have the best squad depth of all teams in Europe/World???
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Post by Eman Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:06 pm

I don't expect him to start, but I'd love to see me some Rosicky tonight. The forgotten man on everyone's preferred lineup Razz
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Post by furiouswindbottom Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:07 pm

Anyone else got those big match butterflies?

My stomach is doing cartwheels.

I've had three poos in the last 45 minutes (too much info...sorry). Not had this since just before the CL final.
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Post by Ganso Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:08 pm

I don't feel nervous at all
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Post by El Gunner Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:11 pm

I would prefer Walcott to start upfront. For quick counters. He is good at running in behind the defence. Van Buyten is slow so we can take advantage of that. Giroud starting juz won't work imo. Think he'll get isolated upfront... Cazorla and Poldi on the wings... Well exactly the same team that Sam posted in the OP.
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Post by El Gunner Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:14 pm

furiouswindbottom wrote:Anyone else got those big match butterflies?

My stomach is doing cartwheels.

I've had three poos in the last 45 minutes (too much info...sorry). Not had this since just before the CL final.
No mate, I'm actually quite excited about this one.
Don't know why??? eco smile
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Post by furiouswindbottom Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:21 pm

El Gunner wrote:
furiouswindbottom wrote:Anyone else got those big match butterflies?

My stomach is doing cartwheels.

I've had three poos in the last 45 minutes (too much info...sorry). Not had this since just before the CL final.
No mate, I'm actually quite excited about this one.
Don't know why??? eco smile

When I played footy for my school team I used to get so nervous before away games I used to puke on the bus. Wasn't travel sickness as I could get on the bus and have no problems...only happened before games.

Once almost missed a kick off after a bout of diarrhea before playing in a cup semi final (Sunday league)......at the age of 23!

Thought it had gone forever after that Barca game. Sad

Luckily, I'm fine once the game starts.
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