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Post by Onyx Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:47

Celtic/Juve, Valencia/PSG and now Real Madrid/Man Utd.

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Post by Die Borussen Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:48

no, united was just lucky, valencia was out of ideas and celtic was just.. inferior

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Post by urbaNRoots Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:49

It's the easiest way to get a result if you are limited.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:49

No, possession whoring is by far the most effective game plan. The opposing team cannot hurt you without the ball.
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Post by Jack Daniels Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:50

No... Madrid just sucks when having the ball most of the time.
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Post by Onyx Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:51

BarrileteCosmico wrote:No, possession whoring is by far the most effective game plan. The opposing team cannot hurt you without the ball.

And the team with the ball cannot hurt you if your defense is solid.

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Post by cyberman Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:51

Utd did more than sit back FFs

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Post by harhar11 Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:55

I have always been of that opinion.

If one player loses concentration for 1 second/makes a mistake, he will have 9 teammates just around him to help him out and once they go on the counter they will have alot of space to utilize..

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Post by S Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:56

You need to stop with this Barca obsession because normally a lot of teams that play away in the first leg tend to employ conservative tactics.
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Post by The Franchise Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 22:59

Man Utd barely countered. When they got chances they were not in this way.

And no. You are relying on the opponent...that is never the best way long term.
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Post by harhar11 Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:00

Surag wrote:You need to stop with this Barca obsession because normally a lot of teams that play away in the first leg tend to employ conservative tactics.

Barca obsession? He was asking if the style that is the total opposite of Barca's style is the most effective way. So how is that being obsessed with Barca?

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Post by The Franchise Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:09

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BarrileteCosmico wrote:No, possession whoring is by far the most effective game plan. The opposing team cannot hurt you without the ball.

And the team with the ball cannot hurt you if your defense is solid.

No true.

No matter how solid you are, the other team will create a chance. Go look it up.

Even the most park the bus performances, chances were created. All those teams could do is restrict the chances and hope they dont go in.
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Post by Onyx Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:11

Chances are created, however they're either just simple shots which the GK can save or from far out. It's hard creating a good shooting chance against a team that defends really well.

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Post by TheRedStag Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:12

Spain tactics are more solid imo. If you have so much possession it limits the chances you concede to your opponent.

Even if you are solid and sit back you can concede from set pieces, from deflections etc.
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Post by harhar11 Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:13

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BarrileteCosmico wrote:No, possession whoring is by far the most effective game plan. The opposing team cannot hurt you without the ball.

And the team with the ball cannot hurt you if your defense is solid.

No true.

No matter how solid you are, the other team will create a chance. Go look it up.

Even the most park the bus performances, chances were created. All those teams could do is restrict the chances and hope they dont go in.

I might agree to some exact with that logic BUT to be able to make possession whoring into an effective game plan you need quality player otherwise the possession just become useless. Wasn't that Swansea's problem last season?

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Post by Lupi Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:13

its effective but hella boring
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Post by The Franchise Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:16

Yohan Modric wrote:Chances are created, however they're either just simple shots which the GK can save or from far out. It's hard creating a good shooting chance against a team that defends really well.

Nope. As I said, go look it up, all those games...great chances.

Name a game, I will tell you a great chance someone should of scored.
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Post by TheRedStag Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:18

Its the easiest way to try be solid as you can do it with average players. Ala Celtic V Barca. But it is not the best. With super talented technical players possession is more solid.
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Post by Onyx Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:20

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Yohan Modric wrote:Chances are created, however they're either just simple shots which the GK can save or from far out. It's hard creating a good shooting chance against a team that defends really well.

Nope. As I said, go look it up, all those games...great chances.

Name a game, I will tell you a great chance someone should of scored.

Yeh they could have scored, but usually the team who sits back gets a good result.

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Post by TheRedStag Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:31


Yohan Modric wrote:
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Yohan Modric wrote:Chances are created, however they're either just simple shots which the GK can save or from far out. It's hard creating a good shooting chance against a team that defends really well.

Nope. As I said, go look it up, all those games...great chances.

Name a game, I will tell you a great chance someone should of scored.

Yeh they could have scored, but usually the team who sits back gets a good result.

Shit talk. Every game round in every league, smaller teams tend to sit back and try defend against the stronger teams. Usually they lose.
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Post by The Franchise Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:33

Nope, usually they dont.

12, 13 , 14 La Liga teams sit back most often vs us, they usually dont get the result.

Barca been to 2 CLfinals in the space of 4 years, got better results more often than not.

People only remember the other results because they are rare.
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Post by Onyx Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:34

I'm talking more about the big games, where there's better teams.

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Post by TheRedStag Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:35

Yohan Modric wrote:I'm talking more about the big games, where there's better teams.

What you're talking is shit Very Happy
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Post by Onyx Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:41

Better teams = better defenses and big matches = different mentality imo.

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Post by The Franchise Wed 13 Feb 2013 - 23:48

And your still wrong.

Barca, 2 finals in 4 years..won many more big games than they lost along the way.

Dont think so short term.
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