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Post by Cyborg Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:41 am

it seems like everyone was slipping

yep di maria...

he just needs to pass the ball more sometimes. he holds on to the ball to long

he made some good passes yes , but overall he had poor control and passing

yes its hindsight, but i would have played benzema and higuain. with benzema playing a little wide on the left

khedira was really missed.

essien too slow, i mean mourinho knows this, but then again who would he play in his place.

maybe its time to give nacho his champions league debut

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Post by hrealmadrid Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:33 pm

Nacho should play. No way he can be worse than Essien at LB
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Post by SuperMAG Thu Oct 25, 2012 4:49 pm

yep, mou is a fking caword though.

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Post by Valkyrja Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:32 pm

Has Mourinho ever promoted a player at any team he managed ?
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Post by Onyx Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:29 pm

Chelsea lost 2-1 to Bayer Leverkusen (group stages) last year and won the CL. hmm


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Post by buddytaller Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:52 pm

The most important thing is qualifying for the knockout stages by then Marcelo should have fully recovered he was missed in the match. It was just too easy to get past Essien in the match, he was virtually non-existent, I hope this is the last time he plays at LB, the only good thing he did there was to send one good cross which Benzema couldn't reach, Marcelo's contribution to the attack was sorely missed on the night.

The rest of the defence had an off day bar Varane, whilst Pepe was still putting in great challenges, his delivery from the back was awful and was at fault for the first goal. Ramos addition to the attack was just as terrible. Even more worrying was the rate at which Alonso and Ozil lost possession in dangerous areas.

Casillas was having a great game till his poor clearance led to the winner for Dortmund. Di Maria's decision making is preventing him from being a world beater, he had a shocker today. Ronaldo was being double marked leaving a lot of space on the opposite wing for Di Maria but time and again he gave the ball away with some terrible passes and needless attempts at dribbling.

The least said about Real's two CF's the better. The only standout performers on the evening was Ronaldo, Varane and Modric.
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:55 pm

Ronaldo stand-out performance ? Di Maria(2nd best from our team after Varane imo), Ozil and Ramos were better than him.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:04 pm

Ronaldo was at no point double marked, they had a defensive LW to be able to contain DiMaria, Ronaldo's wing was wide open that even Essien attacked sometimes, Ronaldo cannot function without Marcelo, while DiMaria does it without anyone
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Post by buddytaller Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:50 pm

Maybe I watched a different match, but the Di Maria I saw against Dortmund was terrible, probably the worst player in white on the pitch. He had so much room to operate on the right, but he kept misplacing one pass after the other.

I thought Ronaldo was well marked but was Madrid's best performer in attack, besides scoring a sublime goal, he never stopped running and pressing and when the opportunity came he was always tried to play his teammates in. Ozil should made it 1-0 when Ronaldo sent a delightful cross from the left, but opted to shoot with his left foot instead of his right and missed a relatively simple tap-in.

Ronaldo appears to be the only inform attacker at the moment, the team would suffer dearly if he was to get a serious injury.
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Post by the xcx Fri Oct 26, 2012 3:55 am

I was disappointed about Di marias efforts against Dortmund...CR7 was great giving the limited options he had going forward with the ball.

top 4.
1.CR7
2.Varane
3.Modric
4.Iker
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Post by Cyborg Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:14 am

i dont knw about modric and casillas being 'top' 4.

should just be ronaldo and varane.

modric was losing the ball alot throughout the game, he made one good run in the box, passed it to di maria who did nothing with it.

casillas punched the ball so weakly, when he could have caught the ball or let varane deal with it. that was the second goal.

but everybody was poor really.

Mourinho needs to inject some new energy into the squad.

Start callejon in the next game or play morata or cheryshev. they have the quality to start at least after the performance of some of the teams' 'stars'
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Post by SuperMAG Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:31 am

Modric did absolutely nothing, whatsoever, nothing.

only CR and varane were good, i also thought ramos was good. pepe was great in defence, but his passing was shockingly bad. alonso / khedira was bypassed like usual.

essian was beyond horrible, every freakin attack came from his side, a simple dribble or 1'2 pass by the attacker and he was screwed. he should never ever play as lb again.

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Post by Lord Hades Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:35 am

di maria was the most wasteful player on the pitch.
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Post by the xcx Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:14 pm

Modric did nothing Laughing..Dat unhealty bias Laughing
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Post by Onyx Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:17 pm

Khedira probably would of lost the ball with Dortmunds pressing.

Modric should of started the game.

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Post by the xcx Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:19 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:Khedira probably would of lost the ball with Dortmunds pressing.

Modric should of started the game.
Exactly, he was getting owned from left to right in the first 17 minutes.
Ultimately the tie favored Dortmund because of Pepes brainfart, shat pitch and ref.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:28 pm

Lord Hades wrote:di maria was the most wasteful player on the pitch.

Ozil begs to differ

if Benzema was a tad more like a dog than a cat he would have reached the millions of throughballs DiMaria threaded, his shots were crap tho
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Post by Lord Hades Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:04 pm

are you kidding me? modric was not as good , just couldnt adapt to what he was supposed to do i.e. do khedira's job. incredible to see how underrated khedira is , we missed his authority in the middle of the pitch


@hala , ozil still gave a fantastic assist, it was not the best game he would ever have but was still better than di maria.

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Post by Cyborg Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:07 am

halamadrid2 wrote:
Lord Hades wrote:di maria was the most wasteful player on the pitch.

Ozil begs to differ

if Benzema was a tad more like a dog than a cat he would have reached the millions of throughballs DiMaria threaded, his shots were crap tho

di maria was the worst hands down. fact

and youre blaming benzema now? come one di maria needs to learn when to dribble and when to pass.

modric was not good, i have no bias. he wasnt good like some are suggesting here

he will be in with a few more games under his belt as he adapts to mourinho and the other players, but he still is under par at the moment

benzema and higuain should play more together
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Post by Kingofeverythingclassy Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:49 am

Di Maria is a headless chicken. Kaka >> DI Maria for 40 odd minutes.

Madrid should buy Bale & play Ronaldo at RW maybe

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Post by the xcx Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:25 am

Kingofeverythingclassy wrote:Di Maria is a headless chicken. Kaka >> DI Maria for 40 odd minutes.

Madrid should buy Bale & play Ronaldo at RW maybe
I suppose Bale would have been better option than Di maria Laughing
Di maria delivered with 1 season more than Kaka ever did for us Laughing
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:38 pm

Cyborg wrote:di maria was the worst hands down. fact

and youre blaming benzema now? come one di maria needs to learn when to dribble and when to pass.

DiMaria was the only forward who attacked ffs, Ronaldo was nowhere to be seen apart from his goal and i don't know where the fck Benzema was, Ozil lost the ball like everytime he touched it and fell for like every contact, the sooner he realises the referees don't fall for that shite the better. wouldn't be surprised if Kaka started in place of Ozil which he deserves


There is a reason DiMaria does so good for Argentina like every game, because he plays with Missi and Higuain who are on the same wavelength as him as opposed to Ronaldo and Benzema who one plays like a forward and the other either like a DM or like a walking ghost

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@hala , ozil still gave a fantastic assist, it was not the best game he would ever have but was still better than di maria.

he could never have been bettter than DiMaria ffs, DiMaria kept making things happen even if he had like their whole side on him everytime he got the ball, Ozil couldn't even keep a ball, wasn't he supposed to be the one who is best at keeping the ball under pressure?? my backside, he better get his shite together or else Kaka should start ahead of him

DiMaria(or it was Modric i think) could have had an assist like Ozil if Benz had a better first touch, DiMaria could have bagged himself about 3 assissts if Benzema was faster and didn't start running like 30 secs after the ball was passed
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Post by Lord Hades Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:02 pm

I dont know what game you saw but di maria was nowhere near the best player for us . countless misplaced passes, stupid row z material shooting , losing possession etc etc .
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Post by SuperMAG Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:28 pm

Usually i ignore anything said by halamadrid related to dimagia, same goes for crimson about higuain. Di magia was as usual a total headless chicken.

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Post by McAgger Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:40 pm

Not worried at all, we just need Ronaldo and Benz/Higgy to have their scoring boots on and we should be fine. Can't see them beating us at Bernabeu. Even a draw would be disappointing for us.
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Post by Kamikaze692 Mon Nov 05, 2012 5:32 am

I just hope Higuain can finally find his form in europe. He just needs that one great performance and hopefully it will spur him on for greater things.....
That being said, its an important european clash so Mourinho will probably start with Benzema Upfront
What i wouldnt give to have Benz & Pipita on the pitch at the same time........ No
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