Re: SAF says United has best Strike force in Europe????

by Swanhends Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:07 pm

Benzema's first touch isn't better than RVP's

by Die Borussen Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:09 pm

as a strike force he is refering to the players who their main target will be to score
if ronaldo scored 40 goals a season he must be considered part of madrid striking force
at least in this occasion

by Gil Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:09 pm

BhritanniaBhlue wrote:Benzema's first touch isn't better than RVP's

Madrid fans are the biggest homers on here.

by cyberman Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:12 pm

Notice how he doesn't include nani, Valencia etc in the list? BECAUSE THEYRE NOT STRIKERS lol
Not hard to comprehend

by urbaNRoots Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:14 pm

Kizu wrote:Benzema's movement, first touch, close control, dribbling, speed of the mark, passing and vision are way better than RVP's. RVP is a better finisher than Benzema

LE: Checked, Benzema has 133g in 281m matches and RVP has 154g in 355m.

by Le Samourai Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:16 pm

cyberman wrote:Notice how he doesn't include nani, Valencia etc in the list? BECAUSE THEYRE NOT STRIKERS lol
Not hard to comprehend

Ronaldo is an inside forward, he's more of a striker than Benzema.

Anyway Benzema's first touch is basically his best quality so I'll just give you guys the win, will bump later in the season.

by The Messiah Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:18 pm

I think there is a need to include the greatest attack in Europe here.

Gomez, Mandzukic, Muller, Robben, Ribery, Kroos, Shaqiri and Pizarro.

Nothing comes next after this striker force.

Messi>>>>Gomez
Ribery>>>>Villa
Robben>>>Sanchez

Only Barcelona can compete with us.

Gomez>>>>>Benzema
Ronaldo>>>> Mandzukic
Kroos=======Oezil
Robben>>>>>>>Di Maria

We still have Muller, Pizarro and Shaqiri in store.

by cyberman Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:19 pm

Not for me, he hugs the touch line too much and is an alternative to an actual winger that means he's not a striker, he's involved in the build up Too much

by Le Samourai Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:24 pm

Well that's contradictory.

If involvement in buildup is your criteria, then Benzema is less of a striker than Ronaldo.......

He just plays through the centre more , but it's much more of a withdrawn role.

by RED Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:24 pm

"Rafa is bringing back the glory days. And I do apologise Mr Ferguson, but there is *bleep* all you can do about it----"RAWK, May 2008.
“He is jobless and he is not my friend.”-----Sir Alex 2011

Off topic: GOAT sig. pmsl!!

by Onyx Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:29 pm

Ronaldo involved in the build up play? hmm

by juventus101 Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:47 pm

By strike force if he means only central, pure strikers, then i think its between Man U and Bayern. Bayern has Gomez, Muller, Mandzukic, and Pizarro. United b
has Rooney, Van Persie, Welbeck, and Chicharito. Barca only has two real strikers with Messi and Villa. Real too, only has two real strikers, with Benzema and Higuain. So in this case Man U and Bayern are tied in my opinion. Actually, City are probably the strongest in depth of pure strikers. Aguero, Balotelli, Tevez, and Dzeko is amazing.

If he means just starting strikers, Man U are the only big team who play with two strikers up top so again they have a point. Then again, City again would give them a run, with Aguero-Tevez.

If by strike force he means attack in general, then Kagawa/Rooney/RVP/Nani are still behind Bayern (Ribery/Gomez/Muller/Robben) and probably Real (Ronaldo/Benzema/Ozil/Di Maria). PSG on paper are also up there somewhat with Ibra, Lavezzi, Pastore, and Nene, and Barca only plays with 3 up top, but if you include 4 players then their ahead of Man United too. Man City also is up there, with Aguero, Silva, Tevez, and Nasri.

by The Messiah Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:11 pm

B-Mac MUFC wrote:I broke it down by Goal totals from the previous season with players listed in Original post....here are the results, these are all goals in all competitions

City

Balotelli- 17 Goals
Aguero - 30 Goals
Dzeko - 19 Goals
Tevez - 4 Goals
Silva - 8 Goals
Johnson - 7 Goals
Nasri - 6 Goals

Total = 91 Goals

United

Rooney - 35 Goals
RVP - 37 Goals
Welbeck - 12 Goals
Chicharito - 12 goals
Berbatov - 9 Goals
Nani - 10 Goals
valencia - 6 goals
Kagawa - 17 goals

Total = 138 Goals

Barcelona

Messi - 73 Goals
Villa - 9 Goals
Sanchez - 15 Goals
Pedro - 13 Goals
Fabregas - 15 Goals
Tello - 7 Goals
Cuenca - 4 Goals
Affelay - 0 Goals

Total = 136 Goals

Real Madrid

Ronaldo - 60 Goals
Benzema - 32 Goals
Higuain - 26 Goals
Di Maria - 7 Goals
Callejon - 13 Goals
Ozil - 7 Goals
Kaka - 8 Goals

Total = 153 Goals

Final Ranking
1. Real Madrid
2. Manchester United
3. Barcelona

4. Manchester City

You forget this.

Gomez - 40
Pizarro - 18
Robben - 18
Ribbery - 17
Muller - 10
Kroos - 7
Mario - 12

Total 140.

I didn't include Shaqiri, I could not find his league Stats, id I add his stats we could over-rate Madrid, Also Muller didn't have his best season as well as Robben was injured for most part.

by Lord Hades Fri Aug 17, 2012 10:55 pm

love this , when it suits the arguement ,ronaldo is nothing more than a glorified poacher with pace, contributing shit to the game but suddenly he becomes a touch - line hugging winger? LMFAO

by Lex Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:01 pm

Lord Hades wrote: love this , when it suits the arguement ,ronaldo is nothing more than a glorified poacher with pace, contributing shit to the game but suddenly he becomes a touch - line hugging winger? LMFAO

Welcome to the world of football. May i offer you a refreshment?

by Lord Hades Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:11 pm

Lex wrote:
Lord Hades wrote: love this , when it suits the arguement ,ronaldo is nothing more than a glorified poacher with pace, contributing shit to the game but suddenly he becomes a touch - line hugging winger? LMFAO
Welcome to the world of football. May i offer you a refreshment?

i ll have something hot to eat , something cooked over the fire created by torching ,rvp's shirts?

by gondov Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:19 pm

To end this argument;

Any strikeforce with Messi or to certain extent, CR7 >>> Everyone.

We can all try and create a list of our 7 attackers from each team and count the total number of goals they score, e.t.c but the reality is that last season;

Messi + CR7 = 145 goals for club and country affraid

Be scared everyone, be really really scared because this number is likely to increase next season.

by Be/\/ceCALI Sun Aug 19, 2012 1:19 am

^yeah, those numbers have nothing to do with the stacked teams both of them play in..........

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