SAF says United has best Strike force in Europe????

TomJuve wrote:

gondov wrote:2011/12 season;

RVP (35) + Rooney (37) = 72 goals


Messi = 73 goals

Messi. Although, I think we can all agree if you were to drop Messi in a top premier league team there is no way he would have outscored both Rooney and RvP combined.

I tend to disagree. If Messi played for city or something, I dont see why we can say ITS IMPOSSIBLE.

Afterall Aguero banged in 30 goals in 48 games in his first season in the EPL and he is the poor man's Messi. (I know his owners are rich, LOL).

He is a poor man's Messi I agree. But not poor enough to score 43 less goals in one season.

I reckon Messi would have probably ended up around the high 40/low 50 goal range.

Inb4Jiopsistatsandtables.

Le Samourai wrote:Inb4khalebarcastatsandtables.

Fix'd

TomJuve wrote:

gondov wrote:2011/12 season;

RVP (35) + Rooney (37) = 72 goals


Messi = 73 goals

Messi. Although, I think we can all agree if you were to drop Messi in a top premier league team there is no way he would have outscored both Rooney and RvP combined.

EPL is an open league... i m convinced messi would have scored still that much, but he needs xavi and iniesta in EPL as well...

TomJuve wrote:He is a poor man's Messi I agree. But not poor enough to score 43 less goals in one season.

I reckon Messi would have probably ended up around the high 40/low 50 goal range.

TBF, it would be exremely special for messi to do that , so I agree with u.



But it will be interesting to see how the strikeforce works together.

If it works anything like the ........henry........Eto'o.....messi.....patnership then Man U fans are in for a treat!!! I dont how they will line up tho with these two?

We don't even have the best strike force in our league. But we aren't far off.

I think all the teams mentioned in the OP are about the same level...

I wouldn't feel comfortable naming one as the "best"

All have certain strengths and weaknesses

TomJuve wrote:
No Italian team can really match that attack at the moment after Milan sold Ibra.

SES-Pato-Robinho



Seriously though, I thing Real still has the edge on everyone, followed very closely by City and Barca. RVP, Valencia, and Rooney have the potential to link up explosively, but one can't say anything until Van Persie and Rooney play together.

The problem is thatwuth that squad is how are United going to line up with players such as Rooney, RvP, Kagawa, Nani even Valencia all probably deserving a first team spot. It won't be easy keeping them all happy and one of Valencia/Nani could end up leaving.

Rooney and RvP will be guaranteed a spot. Which means if United play with Wide men for example in a 4-4-2 then Kagawa or Rooney has no place.

I broke it down by Goal totals from the previous season with players listed in Original post....here are the results, these are all goals in all competitions

City

Balotelli- 17 Goals
Aguero - 30 Goals
Dzeko - 19 Goals
Tevez - 4 Goals
Silva - 8 Goals
Johnson - 7 Goals
Nasri - 6 Goals

Total = 91 Goals

United

Rooney - 35 Goals
RVP - 37 Goals
Welbeck - 12 Goals
Chicharito - 12 goals
Berbatov - 9 Goals
Nani - 10 Goals
valencia - 6 goals
Kagawa - 17 goals

Total = 138 Goals

Barcelona

Messi - 73 Goals
Villa - 9 Goals
Sanchez - 15 Goals
Pedro - 13 Goals
Fabregas - 15 Goals
Tello - 7 Goals
Cuenca - 4 Goals
Affelay - 0 Goals

Total = 136 Goals

Real Madrid

Ronaldo - 60 Goals
Benzema - 32 Goals
Higuain - 26 Goals
Di Maria - 7 Goals
Callejon - 13 Goals
Ozil - 7 Goals
Kaka - 8 Goals

Total = 153 Goals



Final Ranking
1. Real Madrid
2. Manchester United
3. Barcelona
















4. Manchester City

rvp got something like 40% of arsenal's goals, do you really think he will be able to score the same amount of goals?

i dont. i think both rooney's and rvp's goaly tally will decrease considering they will be sharing the goals next season.

mtfootball wrote:Flopzema > RVP
Ozil > Kagawa
Higuain > Welbeck/Hernandez
Ronaldo > Rooney
Di Maria > Nani
Callejon > Valencia

Posts like this is why Madrid fans are so unliked :-(

What's wrong with it?

Abramovich wrote:Flopzema > RVP
/quote]

Posts like this is why Madrid fans are so unliked :-(

Yea, because RVP just put on an absolute show at the Euros.

We'll see.

He's right. Only Madrid and City come close.

Benzema has been ruined. Was hoping he'd become the next Henry instead he's playing for DM these days.

Guy was just embarrassing at the Euros, Cabaye was playing further forward than him in most games lol.

RVP is better sadly.

Le Samourai wrote:

Abramovich wrote:Flopzema > RVP
/quote]

Posts like this is why Madrid fans are so unliked :-(

Yea, because RVP just put on an absolute show at the Euros.

We'll see.

But Benzema did?
In that case, Bendtner>>>>>>>>>>>>

2 assists > 1 goal....especially in that embarrassment of a France team without people making runs.

That's all I got's to say.

Luca wrote:

Le Samourai wrote:

Abramovich wrote:Flopzema > RVP
/quote]

Posts like this is why Madrid fans are so unliked :-(

Yea, because RVP just put on an absolute show at the Euros.

We'll see.

But Benzema did?
In that case, Bendtner>>>>>>>>>>>>

Well the Euros is the only thing he could possibly be referencing by changing the name to "Flopzema"

So I suppose you misunderstood my post I don't care what he did at the Euros.

Le Samourai wrote:2 assists > 1 goal....especially in that embarrassment of a France team without people making runs.

That's all I got's to say.

Shouldn't the striker be the one making the runs ffs.

That was probably Blanc's tactics.

Le Samourai wrote:2 assists > 1 goal....especially in that embarrassment of a France team without people making runs.

That's all I got's to say.

So as a striker tha proves benzema is better. Strong logic.

mtfootball wrote:That was probably Blanc's tactics.

He plays the same way for Madrid ffs.

Gil wrote:

Le Samourai wrote:2 assists > 1 goal....especially in that embarrassment of a France team without people making runs.

That's all I got's to say.

Shouldn't the striker be the one making the runs ffs.

Well at the very least they could've made some decent through balls (he was the best on the team at that) or when they're on the wings they can know their teammate and pull it back to the edge of the box instead of flashing it accross the goal or sending in a useless cross.

Or maybe the coach can know that he plays best as a foil to another forward and not as an isolated lone targetman.

But I suppose that's asking too much.

Gil wrote:
Shouldn't the striker be the one making the runs ffs.

Who's feeding him?

Mehbaye?