Would Fabregas get into Juves midfield?
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Re: Would Fabregas get into Juves midfield?
Juve's systems overrated here. Doesn't matter if they won Serie A with no competition. They'd have to change their system with Fabregas, Ozil etc.
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-----------Pirlo----------
--Marchisio-----Vidal-----
-----------Cesc----------
----------Striker----------
Plays as a midfielder, just doesn't replace anyone in Juventus midfield.Last I checked an attacking midfielder was a midfielder.
Unless your argument was they won't drop Vuncinic or Matri for him
--Marchisio-----Vidal-----
-----------Cesc----------
----------Striker----------
Plays as a midfielder, just doesn't replace anyone in Juventus midfield.Last I checked an attacking midfielder was a midfielder.
Unless your argument was they won't drop Vuncinic or Matri for him
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For all the butthurt Fabregas fanboys here..
Cesc is an AM ,pointless discussion..Happy now ?
Cesc is an AM ,pointless discussion..Happy now ?
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mtfootball wrote:Juve's systems overrated here. Doesn't matter if they won Serie A with no competition. They'd have to change their system with Fabregas, Ozil etc.
A system overrated? i think i have heard it all now how can a system be overrated ffs ?
You dont change your system that has deemed successful and an entire season unbeaten for one f*cking player.
It's f*cking insanity.
There's more to football than just more ability, some seem to not realise that.
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jibers wrote:The Franchise wrote:This is such a silly discussion.
I dislike Cesc as a player, but obviously Juve would trip over themselves if they could get him lol
I dont understand why people are saying, he cant fit their system or whatever. Like system and formations are never changed for players of his ability.
Obviously they need players to protect Pirlo so they play Vidal and Marchiso. But you really couldnt come to the conclusion they would simply play him as a number 10 in front of those 3 with 1 striker in front, thus keeping the 3 men at the back?
He ruined Barca when they changed system for him? Not exactly, but I see that arguement. However, thats because his inclusion made the team worse than it was previously. That would not happen with Juve in that position give to him, because it would suit both him and the team.
How would Cesc benefit Juves high pressur e MF?
I'm sorry but this is a joke. There were even statments made in the Barce;lona camp of Cesc getting in peoples way and looking lost when Barceloina pressed. He would never be used to sheild Pirlo!
The only place he would play is a SS. Did you even wathc Juve? I watched all their games and Cesc would not touch their MF.
PS nice to see a light hearted post mate, in the Barca section all your post have been unsually cynical..
Really? I mean Cesc playing instead of Vucinic is going to bring Juves' pressure come to a streeching holt?
Dont buy it at all.
We all already know he struggled with pressing at Barca, but there is coaching and time needed for that. How about lets see if he can figure it out, other players didnt get it straight away either.
We are arguing sematics here. You say he has to play second striker, I say he has to play like a 10 behind a single striker...its the exact same thing.
I dont need to answer if I watched or not, never goes anywhere. I say I did, you can say I didnt, neither of us can prove our point.
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Re: Would Fabregas get into Juves midfield?
Le Samourai wrote:-----------Pirlo----------
--Marchisio-----Vidal-----
-----------Cesc----------
----------Striker----------
Plays as a midfielder, just doesn't replace anyone in Juventus midfield.Last I checked an attacking midfielder was a midfielder.
Unless your argument was they won't drop Vuncinic or Matri for him
THIS.
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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:mtfootball wrote:Juve's systems overrated here. Doesn't matter if they won Serie A with no competition. They'd have to change their system with Fabregas, Ozil etc.
A system overrated? i think i have heard it all now how can a system be overrated ffs ?
You dont change your system that has deemed successful and an entire season unbeaten for one f*cking player.
It's f*cking insanity.
There's more to football than just more ability, some seem to not realise that.
Because Zidane, Ozil etc wouldn't get into it. When you have those players, they become the system. By the looks of it Serie A was poor last season. It's not like they won the CL with this system either.
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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Totally different argument..... Stoke would change thier entire way of playing to fit them in as they dont have a successful system that has won them trophies....
Juventus have.
"A system that has won them trophies" - Where was I when Juve won more than one trophy?
Winning one trophy in a season where they weren't playing in Europe means the logic works for Juve and not for Stoke?
Are "this isn't FIFA" and "you're living in a FIFA world" the new "cool" things to say? Because I fail to see how they have any relevance to this discussionGLS wrote:The fact you believe what your saying is ridiculous.... this is'nt Fifa ffs.
Fifa has nothing to do with what people are going on about in here....This thread is about people using the same f*cking retarded logic used by people who say things like "Busquets wouldn't get into Man United's team because he doesn't fit their system" - Care to defend your logic there, Mole?
I guess I'm just living in a fifa world
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jibers wrote:
How would Cesc benefit Juves high pressur e MF?
I'm sorry but this is a joke. There were even statments made in the Barce;lona camp of Cesc getting in peoples way and looking lost when Barceloina pressed. He would never be used to sheild Pirlo!
can i see those statements please ?
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@ MT
Not when Pirlo is the system they dont
Also La Liga fan accusing Serie A of lacking competition is lulz worthy at best
Dont know why i did'nt say this before but what ever..... If it ain't broke don't fix it.
@Bhends
Busquets would get into Man Utd's team because he's better than Carrick at that role.... especially next to Scholes because United a lot more possession oriented team with Scholes.
I dont believe Fabregas is better than Pirlo, Marchisio and Vidal at the roles that Conte asks of them.
Not when Pirlo is the system they dont
Also La Liga fan accusing Serie A of lacking competition is lulz worthy at best
Dont know why i did'nt say this before but what ever..... If it ain't broke don't fix it.
@Bhends
Busquets would get into Man Utd's team because he's better than Carrick at that role.... especially next to Scholes because United a lot more possession oriented team with Scholes.
I dont believe Fabregas is better than Pirlo, Marchisio and Vidal at the roles that Conte asks of them.
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How do we know a midfield of Pirlo, Vidal and Fabregas wouldn't do better with different roles?
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mtfootball wrote:How do we know a midfield of Pirlo, Vidal and Fabregas wouldn't do better with different roles?
Defensively poor, it's been explained already that Pirlo needs two runners/pressers next to him and Fabregas could'nt fulfill such a role.
To expand on the Busquets at Man Utd point.... he would fit that role Bhends questioned extremely well IMO and has performed it at Barca before during the Ibra season.
Busquets Xavi
Pedro Messi Iniesta
Ibra
Pedro Messi Iniesta
Ibra
Rather similar to.....
Carrick Scholes
Valencia Rooney Nani
Welbeck
Valencia Rooney Nani
Welbeck
Would'nt you say? not identical but similar in any case and i feel Busquets could fulfill such a role with no issues.
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So Pirlo's always played with 2 runners?
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mtfootball wrote:So Pirlo's always played with 2 runners?
Majority yes ( although there was a very successful period when he didnt), he did'nt need it as much earlier in his career but he does now...
As he got older, his defensive ability has wained a bit....
The whole Juve system is built around him if Juve were to sign Fabregas i doubt they would totally change that to fit him in.
Pirlo is the key, if Pirlo was'nt there then it's different but as it is then it's totally impossible IMO.
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What's wrong with having just 1 player who does the tackling etc?
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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:mtfootball wrote:So Pirlo's always played with 2 runners?
Majority yes ( although there was a very successful period when he didnt), he did'nt need it as much earlier in his career but he does now...
As he got older, his defensive ability has wained a bit....
The whole Juve system is built around him if Juve were to sign Fabregas i doubt they would totally change that to fit him in.
Pirlo is the key, if Pirlo was'nt there then it's different but as it is then it's totally impossible IMO.
Mole stop entertaining this guy. He is a closet Barcelona fan that always praises their players. He will not stop till you bend over and say, yes...cesc would line up in the mf. What a joke.
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Seriously after Le Samourai's post is there anything to discuss more? He would get into the midfield but not by replacing the MVP trio. End of story.
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urbaNRoots wrote:Seriously after Le Samourai's post is there anything to discuss more? He would get into the midfield but not by replacing the MVP trio. End of story.
It should be as simple as this
The question should be 'would Fabregas get into the starting 11 at juventus?'
And the answer would obviously be yes
Laughing hard at some of these comments though
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urbaNRoots wrote:Seriously after Le Samourai's post is there anything to discuss more? He would get into the midfield but not by replacing the MVP trio. End of story.
This. ^
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What if Juve already had 3 quality forwards?
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jibers wrote:Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:mtfootball wrote:So Pirlo's always played with 2 runners?
Majority yes ( although there was a very successful period when he didnt), he did'nt need it as much earlier in his career but he does now...
As he got older, his defensive ability has wained a bit....
The whole Juve system is built around him if Juve were to sign Fabregas i doubt they would totally change that to fit him in.
Pirlo is the key, if Pirlo was'nt there then it's different but as it is then it's totally impossible IMO.
Mole stop entertaining this guy. He is a closet Barcelona fan that always praises their players. He will not stop till you bend over and say, yes...cesc would line up in the mf. What a joke.
I'm not a fan of the current Fabregas.
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pep nearly ruined him. Tito is our last hope
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RealGunner wrote:pep nearly ruined him. Tito is our last hope
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RealGunner wrote:pep nearly ruined him. Tito is our last hope
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But they don't.mtfootball wrote:What if Juve already had 3 quality forwards?
Don't know what side I'm going to but i do agree that Fransh!ts Crapbregas cannot replace Marchisio in their current set-up but that doesn't mean they can't change it.
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