Would Fabregas get into Juves midfield?
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Re: Would Fabregas get into Juves midfield?
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Even if I bought Fabregas on career mode I wouldn't replace my DM with him.
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If Fabregas can not get into Juventus Midfield, does that make the playmaker a better midfielder than Fabregas, since he can get into any team, defense, Midfield and attack.
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He wouldn't get into our current set up, but if he came we would change the set up for him.
The funny thing is that you needed to mention this for all the guys with buttpain to feel at ease
People just dont want to answer to the point it seems.Whatever makes them sleep better at night
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If Conte can get Fab to increase his work rate, i think he can replace Marchisio comfortably.
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Fabregas is nowhere near as good as Marchisio ,in terms of positioning,tactical awareness or when it comes to defensive workrate.
Marchisio covered the most distance in the EUROS than any other player(at 62.5 KM)..Just saying.
Cesc is an AM..Not point discussing this..Another reason to make the butthurt guys feel better
Marchisio covered the most distance in the EUROS than any other player(at 62.5 KM)..Just saying.
Cesc is an AM..Not point discussing this..Another reason to make the butthurt guys feel better
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Nowhere near as good?
Okay that is an exaggeration.
Anyway, what i am saying is if Fabregas can increase his workrate, he can replace Marchisio as he offers more in the final third than Marchisio.
Attributes like tactical awareness, positioning and work-rate can be improved by coaching. Fabregas is just so much more talented than Marchisio that if he only just improves these aspects than the current level he is at, then he can easily replace Marchisio.
Of course, at present he can't replace Marchisio, but it is not an impossible task like you people are suggesting. And the other option of including him as an AM is probably a better idea than mine. I just wanted to say it is not impossible to think of a scenario where Fabregas plays over Marchisio.
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Yeah but Fabregas isn't even good at defending at all. I doubt he'll ever be near as good as Marchisio in that aspect. Sure Fabregas offers more in the final third and he can improve his work rate, but he'll never be the player Marchisio is and in Juve's midfield that's what they need, not a player like Fabregas, even if he worked on his work rate. That's not the type of player Fabregas is anyway and it'd be odd to try and mold him that way. It's like buying Pirlo and then telling him he's going to play in his traditional role but he ought to work on making runs into the box and get into scoring positions more often.
Know what I'm saying?
Anyway, Fabregas would not get into the Juve midfield and adapting the Juve midfield at it's present form to accommodate Fab would be a mistake, IMO. Although I say that, I don't watch Juve much, so take that with a pinch of salt.
Know what I'm saying?
Anyway, Fabregas would not get into the Juve midfield and adapting the Juve midfield at it's present form to accommodate Fab would be a mistake, IMO. Although I say that, I don't watch Juve much, so take that with a pinch of salt.
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I would change around everything about Juventus in order to let Fabregas in. Even Guardiola changed Barcelona for him.
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CBarca wrote:Yeah but Fabregas isn't even good at defending at all. I doubt he'll ever be near as good as Marchisio in that aspect. Sure Fabregas offers more in the final third and he can improve his work rate, but he'll never be the player Marchisio is and in Juve's midfield that's what they need, not a player like Fabregas, even if he worked on his work rate. That's not the type of player Fabregas is anyway and it'd be odd to try and mold him that way. It's like buying Pirlo and then telling him he's going to play in his traditional role but he ought to work on making runs into the box and get into scoring positions more often.
Know what I'm saying?
Anyway, Fabregas would not get into the Juve midfield and adapting the Juve midfield at it's present form to accommodate Fab would be a mistake, IMO. Although I say that, I don't watch Juve much, so take that with a pinch of salt.
Yeah, i understand.
I know he will probably be never as good as Marchisio in that aspect. But you should also remember that Fab is still young and his prime is still ahead of him. Just because he has not actively put in the effort to become tactically adept, it does not mean he cannot get close to Marchisio in that aspect.
The gap in tactical awareness though can be compensated and then some more by Cesc's attacking prowess which will inevitably result in more chances being created per game. Basically sacrificing a bit of the defense for more of the attack.
But all this might be just fancy ideas in my head and will probably never materialize. But i just wanted to put it out there.
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Woke up and saw this thread
I'll just reiterate what most people said here. Cesc cannot do what our midfield does in terms of defensive work and all that. He can be played behind the striker though, I'd take him and play him there.
I'll just reiterate what most people said here. Cesc cannot do what our midfield does in terms of defensive work and all that. He can be played behind the striker though, I'd take him and play him there.
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Juvi guys, stop it with your midfield, we all saw the Euro final you know
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zizzle wrote:Juvi guys, stop it with your midfield, we all saw the Euro final you know
Did you even read through the thread?
And don't use the Euro final as an example
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zizzle wrote:Juvi guys, stop it with your midfield, we all saw the Euro final you know
lol that midfield sent Italy to the final.
Spain was just unplayable, but no worries, im sure zanetti, stanko, cambiaso and poli would beat them
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Nowhere near as good?
Okay that is an exaggeration.
Anyway, what i am saying is if Fabregas can increase his workrate, he can replace Marchisio as he offers more in the final third than Marchisio.
Attributes like tactical awareness, positioning and work-rate can be improved by coaching. Fabregas is just so much more talented than Marchisio that if he only just improves these aspects than the current level he is at, then he can easily replace Marchisio.
Of course, at present he can't replace Marchisio, but it is not an impossible task like you people are suggesting. And the other option of including him as an AM is probably a better idea than mine. I just wanted to say it is not impossible to think of a scenario where Fabregas plays over Marchisio.
It is impossible under the current set up. Yes Barcelona changed for Cesc and look what happened...
Cesc doesnt have teh work rate or the defensive capabilities to do what March does.
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zizzle wrote:Juvi guys, stop it with your midfield, we all saw the Euro final you know
Hwta are you on about? If Pran had played the same way that he did in their foirst meeting we wouldnt be talking about this. Tactics were wrong. Noone goes toe to toe with that MF. Italy wereleft exposed.
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This is such a silly discussion.
I dislike Cesc as a player, but obviously Juve would trip over themselves if they could get him lol
I dont understand why people are saying, he cant fit their system or whatever. Like system and formations are never changed for players of his ability.
Obviously they need players to protect Pirlo so they play Vidal and Marchiso. But you really couldnt come to the conclusion they would simply play him as a number 10 in front of those 3 with 1 striker in front, thus keeping the 3 men at the back?
He ruined Barca when they changed system for him? Not exactly, but I see that arguement. However, thats because his inclusion made the team worse than it was previously. That would not happen with Juve in that position give to him, because it would suit both him and the team.
I dislike Cesc as a player, but obviously Juve would trip over themselves if they could get him lol
I dont understand why people are saying, he cant fit their system or whatever. Like system and formations are never changed for players of his ability.
Obviously they need players to protect Pirlo so they play Vidal and Marchiso. But you really couldnt come to the conclusion they would simply play him as a number 10 in front of those 3 with 1 striker in front, thus keeping the 3 men at the back?
He ruined Barca when they changed system for him? Not exactly, but I see that arguement. However, thats because his inclusion made the team worse than it was previously. That would not happen with Juve in that position give to him, because it would suit both him and the team.
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lol at this.... VDB benched 3 Strikers for Cex and wins Euros... Pep and Barca Change a La Liga and CL winning System for Cex. If Cex went to Milan They would play with 2 DMs instead of 3
He goes to Juve, Cex Becomes the System
Its not a matter of would Cex bench Marchisio, its would Marchisio have a position to play in this New SYSTEM based around Cex.
He goes to Juve, Cex Becomes the System
Its not a matter of would Cex bench Marchisio, its would Marchisio have a position to play in this New SYSTEM based around Cex.
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nasir6371 wrote:lol at this.... VDB benched 3 Strikers for Cex and wins Euros... Pep and Barca Change a La Liga and CL winning System for Cex. If Cex went to Milan They would play with 2 DMs instead of 3
He goes to Juve, Cex Becomes the System
Its not a matter of would Cex bench Marchisio, its would Marchisio have a position to play in this New SYSTEM based around Cex.
Juve are already based on a far better player called Andrea Pirlo
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The Franchise wrote:This is such a silly discussion.
I dislike Cesc as a player, but obviously Juve would trip over themselves if they could get him lol
I dont understand why people are saying, he cant fit their system or whatever. Like system and formations are never changed for players of his ability.
Obviously they need players to protect Pirlo so they play Vidal and Marchiso. But you really couldnt come to the conclusion they would simply play him as a number 10 in front of those 3 with 1 striker in front, thus keeping the 3 men at the back?
He ruined Barca when they changed system for him? Not exactly, but I see that arguement. However, thats because his inclusion made the team worse than it was previously. That would not happen with Juve in that position give to him, because it would suit both him and the team.
How would Cesc benefit Juves high pressur e MF?
I'm sorry but this is a joke. There were even statments made in the Barce;lona camp of Cesc getting in peoples way and looking lost when Barceloina pressed. He would never be used to sheild Pirlo!
The only place he would play is a SS. Did you even wathc Juve? I watched all their games and Cesc would not touch their MF.
PS nice to see a light hearted post mate, in the Barca section all your post have been unsually cynical..
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nasir6371 wrote:lol at this.... VDB benched 3 Strikers for Cex and wins Euros... Pep and Barca Change a La Liga and CL winning System for Cex. If Cex went to Milan They would play with 2 DMs instead of 3
He goes to Juve, Cex Becomes the System
Its not a matter of would Cex bench Marchisio, its would Marchisio have a position to play in this New SYSTEM based around Cex.
No way lol, why change a winning system? Fabregas won't play in the midfield but he can play as a SS, and that's what would probably happen if he did come. No need to change anything.
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Neuer the Playmaker Goalkeeper, as a midfielder>>>>>>>>Fabregas
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I don't think it's audacious to say he wouldn't disrupt the trio that is M.V.P, but he would obviously make the team...he's a really high quality player. In our 4-3-3 or 3-5-2 he would simply replace Vucinic.
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So then what was the point of this thread if the answer was no-one in the world can get into Juves midfield...?
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chinomaster182 wrote:I would change around everything about Juventus in order to let Fabregas in. Even Guardiola changed Barcelona for him.
Yep and they lost the CL and La Liga
Seriously you dont change a successful system for one player it's just idiotic.
1. You decide how your going to play and the system you want to use and then you find the players to fit that system
2. Once that system has proved a success for you, then you buy the players that would fit into your system and way of playing.
I don't care how good the player is, changing your whole way of playing and tactics to fit them in is just supremely idiotic if said way of playing and system has proved to be a successful one.
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This thread is idiotic seriously, this is like asking would Özil get into Juve's trio midfield? OF COURSE NO, because Juve don't play with an AM and it's not his role to defend, but Conte and every other coach would change his system to not let him in the bench. Same for Fabregas and every great player.
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