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Post by DuringTheWar Thu 1 Nov - 2:16:14

What do you think of it? world class? do you consider oscar, haz, and mata as midfielders? or do they play further forward and leave mik and ramirez on their own? i have seen like 2 of their games this season so i have no idea.
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Post by Kick Thu 1 Nov - 2:22:55

Classy and the only way is up for them. our attacking band of three are actually very important when it comes to defending, as Oscar has brought in this high pressure mentality Mata, Hazard and Torres now follow him in that respect. It is great to watch.

Mikel and Ramires have been known to bomb forward as well so I would certainly call it a midfielder 5.

Give it a year or two and this midfield will strike fear into other teams. I can assure you that.
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Post by Onyx Thu 1 Nov - 2:28:02

Chelsea are certainly playing good football with Mata, Hazard and Oscar.

I think Oscar, Hazard and Mata are midfielders. They aren't really forwards, since they aren't prolific goalscorers. All 3 are good at creating.

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Post by The Franchise Thu 1 Nov - 2:48:27

Depends how you look at midfield. When I look at midfield I think literally, middle of the field. Thats where Mikel and Ramires play.

Just because those 3 arent forwards so to speak doesnt automatically make them midfielders either if you know what I mean.

Anyway, technicalilty. Those 3 are great and those suggesting Mata should maybe be dropped when they were struggling (which includes me) clearly were wrong and they can all play together.

I have to say though, playing all 3 leaves alot of space further forward and their midfielders have to cover alot of ground to protect a defence that doesnt like dealing with movement behind them.
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Post by Ganso Thu 1 Nov - 2:49:11

As I said in another thread,their system is a lot like spain's,just more direct.2 AMs 1 CM.

And yeah the 3 are midfield,cant say a single one of them is a striker/winger.
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Post by DuringTheWar Thu 1 Nov - 3:02:15

Ganso wrote:As I said in another thread,their system is a lot like spain's,just more direct.2 AMs 1 CM.

And yeah the 3 are midfield,cant say a single one of them is a striker/winger.

So oscar has been playing deeper? My question against them, is if they can calm things down when an opponent with quality + pressing tries to overrun them, i dont see anyone of them as an organiser that will get on the ball from deep and dictate. But if oscar can do that then fair play


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Post by Ganso Thu 1 Nov - 3:04:36

Yeah,they have dominated pretty much every opponent bar Shakhtar.
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Post by DuringTheWar Thu 1 Nov - 3:06:17

They didnt dominate arsenal iirc
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Post by Muzza Thu 1 Nov - 8:52:16

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:They didnt dominate arsenal iirc

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nor did they outplay tottenham

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Post by Forza Thu 1 Nov - 8:53:43

Muzza wrote:
Diego Armando Maradona wrote:They didnt dominate arsenal iirc

this

nor did they outplay tottenham
or athletico madrid
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Post by juventus101 Thu 1 Nov - 10:03:39

Yea, saying they dominated every team theyve played against is ridiculous. Shakhtar dominated them, Atletico, Juventus, and Arsenal were all very even games, where if anyone had the edge, it was those 3, not Chelsea. Didnt watch the Tottenham game so cant comment on that.
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Post by lszanto Thu 1 Nov - 12:03:57

juventus101 wrote:Yea, saying they dominated every team theyve played against is ridiculous. Shakhtar dominated them, Atletico, Juventus, and Arsenal were all very even games, where if anyone had the edge, it was those 3, not Chelsea. Didnt watch the Tottenham game so cant comment on that.

Arsenal had the edge? Laughing

We're in a stage of changing playing style, so we're obviously going to have issues and matches where we struggle to get a grip.

In 2-3 years we'll be untouchable.
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Post by Kick Thu 1 Nov - 13:29:57

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:
Ganso wrote:As I said in another thread,their system is a lot like spain's,just more direct.2 AMs 1 CM.

And yeah the 3 are midfield,cant say a single one of them is a striker/winger.

So oscar has been playing deeper? My question against them, is if they can calm things down when an opponent with quality + pressing tries to overrun them, i dont see anyone of them as an organiser that will get on the ball from deep and dictate. But if oscar can do that then fair play

Oscar hasn't been playing deeper, they all drop deeper at points but no one can say that one player is playing deeper than the rest.

We do struggle against a pressing side or a team that plays very deep but we can still create. Like I said, give them time to learn how each other plays and we will be lethal.
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Post by billy_gr Thu 1 Nov - 16:13:47

i like where Chelsea is going. From a mostly physical to a more agile technical side.
It would be interesting how will Di Matteo manage the projecct...
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Post by Onyx Thu 1 Nov - 17:12:19

Mikel's a pure DM while Ramires is a B2B.

They don't really have a natural playmaker in the pivot.

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Post by Gil Thu 1 Nov - 17:12:20

Mikel, Oscar, Mata & Hazard are all studs. Ramires continues to improve.

Defensively though, there's still alot of work to be done.

Muzza wrote:
Diego Armando Maradona wrote:They didnt dominate arsenal iirc

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nor did they outplay tottenham

WHAT!???!?!

My head actually snapped back in shock reading that nonsense.
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu 1 Nov - 23:52:34

Forza Rossoneri wrote:
Muzza wrote:
Diego Armando Maradona wrote:They didnt dominate arsenal iirc

this

nor did they outplay tottenham
or athletico madrid
Mata had not returned when we played Athletico and Oscar hadn't even joined the squad. Don't know what you're on about Laughing

We used Malouda in that match ffs rofl
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Post by fatman123 Thu 1 Nov - 23:54:53

Barrettinator wrote:
Forza Rossoneri wrote:
Muzza wrote:
Diego Armando Maradona wrote:They didnt dominate arsenal iirc

this

nor did they outplay tottenham
or athletico madrid
Mata had not returned when we played Athletico and Oscar hadn't even joined the squad. Don't know what you're on about Laughing

We used Malouda in that match ffs rofl

#SaveusSloMoFloMo
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Post by Blue Barrett Thu 1 Nov - 23:55:56

juventus101 wrote:Yea, saying they dominated every team theyve played against is ridiculous. Shakhtar dominated them, Atletico, Juventus, and Arsenal were all very even games, where if anyone had the edge, it was those 3, not Chelsea. Didnt watch the Tottenham game so cant comment on that.
:facepalm:

For the last time, Mata & Oscar were NOT available for the Athletico match. We were in transition of playing style and we used Malouda(:killmenow:) in that match.

Dunno what else to tell you.


*And no, Arsenal did NOT have the edge against us. The match was somewhat even in the middle of the park and if anyone had the edge, it was us.
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Post by RealGunner Fri 2 Nov - 0:10:25

no you didn't
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Post by Le Samourai Fri 2 Nov - 0:22:47

David Luiz looks ridiculously good knocking it around in the centre whenever he goes up.

It's a good midfield but there's a clear issue. No designated distributor. Nonetheless there are a couple patterns beginning to emerge, Oscar seems to be taking some responsibility of getting the ball to Hazzard and Mata in forward areas.

I might be tempted to give Oscar some more space on the left, would make life much simpler for someone like him. Right now he has to drive through the centre which is is more difficult than having a set angle to play it out from.

Hazzard is noticeably not the one you want playing it out from deep, runs himself into traffic and ends us just going down a line.
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Post by Blue Barrett Fri 2 Nov - 1:11:49

RealGunner wrote:no you didn't
Yes, we did. :coffee:
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Post by free_cat Fri 2 Nov - 1:16:26

watched that game: no way Chelsea dominated midfield.
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Post by RealGunner Fri 2 Nov - 1:35:33

Barrettinator wrote:
RealGunner wrote:no you didn't
Yes, we did. :coffee:

if that helps you
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Post by The Sanchez Fri 2 Nov - 2:20:43

No disriputor? Play Romeu a few more times and we may see a better functioning midfield... Didn't play well in league cup but the guy hasn't played minutes on the pitch for a long time. More game time, the more you will see of how great his distribution will be...
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