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Post by theaguia Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:16 am

vote for the better team atm
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Italy = First Place
Portugal = Second

Italy = 16 points in 6 apps
Portugal = 10 in only 5 apps

Italy = On the verge of qualifying
Portugal = Fighting for the spot

Italy = Undefeated
Portugal = Loss and a Tie

Italy vs. Portugal = 3-1 Win.

Enough said, WE ARE STILL BETTER CURRENTLY



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"GK - We win.

CB - Chiellini x Ranocchia > Carvalho x Pepe

RB - Maggio > Bosingwa

LB - Balzaretti < Coentrao

Midfield - You forget someone named Daniele De Rossi. Kick our asses ? Yeah good luck getting past the gladiator. Miles better than anyone you have. Montolivo, Aquilani, Pirlo, Marchisio run circles around your midfield which is mediocre at best. Cassano is more creative than any player you have.

Strikers - We destroy you. Balotelli, Pazzini, Rossi, Matri, Quagliarella, etc.

You can't say you win wingers because we don't have any so it means absolutely nothing. Italy is a better, stronger, faster, and more skilled side with more depth. Beyond your starting XI, you have nobody. Our bench's starting XI would still beat yours. The only things you beat us at is LB, which once again is only one player so if Coentrao is injured, Portugal is ruined.

Look who is doing better in qualification. Look at the fact Portugal has never beaten a far superior Italia. Look at the coaching, history, etc. Portugal are a small nation who do nothing internationally and have never and will never be considered favorites. I'd put my money on England who do not do well at International Fixtures before I'd drop a dime on Portugal. I know it is a sad, unfortunate truth, but you have to deal with it. Carvalho won't even be at the Euro 2012 probably so don't even count on having a strong CB partnership unless you put in Bruno Alves who is nothing special (no big club wanted him).

There really is no argument. Results speak for themselves.
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Post by theaguia Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:08 am

sciacca wrote:Italy = First Place
Portugal = Second

Italy = 16 points in 6 apps
Portugal = 10 in only 5 apps

Italy = On the verge of qualifying
Portugal = Fighting for the spot

Italy = Undefeated
Portugal = Loss and a Tie

Italy vs. Portugal = 3-1 Win.

Enough said, WE ARE STILL BETTER CURRENTLY.

fyi portugal is first
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:09 am

theaguia wrote:
sciacca wrote:Italy = First Place
Portugal = Second

Italy = 16 points in 6 apps
Portugal = 10 in only 5 apps

Italy = On the verge of qualifying
Portugal = Fighting for the spot

Italy = Undefeated
Portugal = Loss and a Tie

Italy vs. Portugal = 3-1 Win.

Enough said, WE ARE STILL BETTER CURRENTLY.

fyi portugal is first

Get your information straight they are tied for first with two other teams. :coffee:


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Post by JuvenelCuore Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:10 am

theaguia wrote:
sciacca wrote:Italy = First Place
Portugal = Second

Italy = 16 points in 6 apps
Portugal = 10 in only 5 apps

Italy = On the verge of qualifying
Portugal = Fighting for the spot

Italy = Undefeated
Portugal = Loss and a Tie

Italy vs. Portugal = 3-1 Win.

Enough said, WE ARE STILL BETTER CURRENTLY.

fyi portugal is first

fyi not if you play someone like the mighty Greeks.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:10 am

sciacca wrote:"GK - We win.

CB - Chiellini x Ranocchia > Carvalho x Pepe

RB - Maggio > Bosingwa

LB - Balzaretti < Coentrao

Midfield - You forget someone named Daniele De Rossi. Kick our asses ? Yeah good luck getting past the gladiator. Miles better than anyone you have. Montolivo, Aquilani, Pirlo, Marchisio run circles around your midfield which is mediocre at best. Cassano is more creative than any player you have.

Strikers - We destroy you. Balotelli, Pazzini, Rossi, Matri, Quagliarella, etc.

You can't say you win wingers because we don't have any so it means absolutely nothing. Italy is a better, stronger, faster, and more skilled side with more depth. Beyond your starting XI, you have nobody. Our bench's starting XI would still beat yours. The only things you beat us at is LB, which once again is only one player so if Coentrao is injured, Portugal is ruined.

Look who is doing better in qualification. Look at the fact Portugal has never beaten a far superior Italia. Look at the coaching, history, etc. Portugal are a small nation who do nothing internationally and have never and will never be considered favorites. I'd put my money on England who do not do well at International Fixtures before I'd drop a dime on Portugal. I know it is a sad, unfortunate truth, but you have to deal with it. Carvalho won't even be at the Euro 2012 probably so don't even count on having a strong CB partnership unless you put in Bruno Alves who is nothing special (no big club wanted him).

There really is no argument. Results speak for themselves.
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Words of a true visionary. A man of greatness. :king:
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Post by theaguia Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:12 am

what are you talking about? portugal is first in their qualifying group thats what im saying.
why do u love the greeks som uch im sure you wouldnt have beaten them in 2004, unless you dived like you did against aussi land just sayiing you know. we are talking about atm so why do u keep talking about the greeks, ya we lost so what its not like you havent lost
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Post by JuvenelCuore Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:15 am

theaguia wrote:what are you talking about? portugal is first in their qualifying group thats what im saying.
why do u love the greeks som uch im sure you wouldnt have beaten them in 2004, unless you dived like you did against aussi land just sayiing you know. we are talking about atm so why do u keep talking about the greeks, ya we lost so what its not like you havent lost

Are you implying there's something wrong with Greeks and it's wrong for me to love their beautiful culture, lush land, characteristic housing and islands, and crystal clear water ? Not to mention cuisine ? A little derogatory and belligerent are we not ?

I'd respond, but there is no such place by the name of "Aussi land." Not to mention Portugal are known for diving. See 2006 World Cup v. England.

We haven't lost to you...so, it is like we haven't lost. Learn the facts.
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theaguia wrote:what are you talking about? portugal is first in their qualifying group thats what im saying.
why do u love the greeks som uch im sure you wouldnt have beaten them in 2004, unless you dived like you did against aussi land just sayiing you know. we are talking about atm so why do u keep talking about the greeks, ya we lost so what its not like you havent lost

What do you mean what I'm talking about? Italy is in first with 16 points ahead of Slovenia who only have 11 points.

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They are tied in first with 10 points including two other nations.

Who knew the almighty Portugal, would have problems against Norway and Denmark, my oh my, how good they are.
We are undefeated, come talk to me when we actually lose. Were on the verge of Qualifying? Where's Portugal, oh that's they still need to fight for their sport.

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Post by theaguia Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:19 am

in my opinion
gk italy wins

fullbacks- portugal(coentrao, silvio, bosingwa, j.perreira> all italian fullbacks)

centre backs portugal( chillieni=pepe, carvalho> ranoccia or bonucci

mid- portugal(moutinho+ meirles> marchisio+pirlo, montilivo is better than martins but doesnt change the scale, not even consider aqualaini who probably will lose his spot in the nt unless he somehow comes out all guns blazing in pool.

forwards(portugal just by little)- amazing fire power in wingers like nani, cr7, varela. Italy has better strikers in g. rossi and quad but no one to supply them
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Post by theaguia Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:22 am

sciacca wrote:
theaguia wrote:what are you talking about? portugal is first in their qualifying group thats what im saying.
why do u love the greeks som uch im sure you wouldnt have beaten them in 2004, unless you dived like you did against aussi land just sayiing you know. we are talking about atm so why do u keep talking about the greeks, ya we lost so what its not like you havent lost

What do you mean what I'm talking about? Italy is in first with 16 points ahead of Slovenia who only have 11 points.

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They are tied in first with 10 points including two other nations.

Who knew the almighty Portugal, would have problems against Norway and Denmark, my oh my, how good they are.
We are undefeated, come talk to me when we actually lose. Were on the verge of Qualifying? Where's
Portugal, oh that's they still need to fight for their sport.

in your first post you wrote portugal is second in qualifying i was mearly correcting you, and for the record we beat denmark. denmark and norway are not easy opponents if you watched football you would no that very physcially strong sides
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theaguia wrote:in my opinion
gk italy wins

fullbacks- portugal(coentrao, silvio, bosingwa, j.perreira> all italian fullbacks)

centre backs portugal( chillieni=pepe, carvalho> ranoccia or bonucci

mid- portugal(moutinho+ meirles> marchisio+pirlo, montilivo is better than martins but doesnt change the scale, not even consider aqualaini who probably will lose his spot in the nt unless he somehow comes out all guns blazing in pool.

forwards(portugal just by little)- amazing fire power in wingers like nani, cr7, varela. Italy has better strikers in g. rossi and quad but no one to supply them

Just goes to show your knowledge towards football is poor. Only part your right on is Fullbacks. As for Center Backs Chiellini both destroys Pepe and Carvalho. Wingers are irrelavent because our system does not use wingers. As for strikers, since when does Rossi need to supply? He is the support striker, the Support Striker supplies the other Center Forwards like Quag.

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theaguia wrote:
sciacca wrote:
theaguia wrote:what are you talking about? portugal is first in their qualifying group thats what im saying.
why do u love the greeks som uch im sure you wouldnt have beaten them in 2004, unless you dived like you did against aussi land just sayiing you know. we are talking about atm so why do u keep talking about the greeks, ya we lost so what its not like you havent lost

What do you mean what I'm talking about? Italy is in first with 16 points ahead of Slovenia who only have 11 points.

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They are tied in first with 10 points including two other nations.

Who knew the almighty Portugal, would have problems against Norway and Denmark, my oh my, how good they are.
We are undefeated, come talk to me when we actually lose. Were on the verge of Qualifying? Where's
Portugal, oh that's they still need to fight for their sport.

in your first post you wrote portugal is second in qualifying i was mearly correcting you, and for the record we beat denmark. denmark and norway are not easy opponents if you watched football you would no that very physcially strong sides

Oh really? Oh dear, the all mighty Portugal have difficulty against Norway and Denmark. Slovenia already is far more talented than both Norway and Denmark. Serbia is out of this world comparing them to Norway and Denmark LOL. You guys lost, and tied, while we tied once and won every other single game. You are tied for first with 10 points meaning you still need to fight, while we are one game from qualfying.

In other terms, we are a head statically. Making us the better squad plain and simple.

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Post by JuvenelCuore Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:26 am

sciacca wrote:
theaguia wrote:in my opinion
gk italy wins

fullbacks- portugal(coentrao, silvio, bosingwa, j.perreira> all italian fullbacks)

centre backs portugal( chillieni=pepe, carvalho> ranoccia or bonucci

mid- portugal(moutinho+ meirles> marchisio+pirlo, montilivo is better than martins but doesnt change the scale, not even consider aqualaini who probably will lose his spot in the nt unless he somehow comes out all guns blazing in pool.

forwards(portugal just by little)- amazing fire power in wingers like nani, cr7, varela. Italy has better strikers in g. rossi and quad but no one to supply them

Just goes to show your knowledge towards football is poor. Only part your right on is Fullbacks. As for Center Backs Chiellini both destroys Pepe and Carvalho. Wingers are irrelavent because our system does not use wingers. As for strikers, since when does Rossi need to supply? He is the support striker, the Support Striker supplies the other Center Forwards like Quag.

Said perfectly. Not to mention the supply comes from Pirlo and Cassano, two creative playmakers who will tear apart Portugal's defence not to mention their midfield. De Rossi added into the mix and good game. 3-1.
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Post by theaguia Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:26 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
theaguia wrote:what are you talking about? portugal is first in their qualifying group thats what im saying.
why do u love the greeks som uch im sure you wouldnt have beaten them in 2004, unless you dived like you did against aussi land just sayiing you know. we are talking about atm so why do u keep talking about the greeks, ya we lost so what its not like you havent lost

Are you implying there's something wrong with Greeks and it's wrong for me to love their beautiful culture, lush land, characteristic housing and islands, and crystal clear water ? Not to mention cuisine ? A little derogatory and belligerent are we not ?

I'd respond, but there is no such place by the name of "Aussi land." Not to mention Portugal are known for diving. See 2006 World Cup v. England.

We haven't lost to you...so, it is like we haven't lost. Learn the facts.

mocking is not arguing.
i was just saying you love to bring up our lose to greece every second, i do not know why? i can bring so many italy losses like the ones in 2004 and 2010
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Post by JuvenelCuore Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:27 am

BTW curious as to how Portugal, with their amazing defence, let in seven goals...almost the amount of Norway and Denmark combined.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:28 am

theaguia wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
theaguia wrote:what are you talking about? portugal is first in their qualifying group thats what im saying.
why do u love the greeks som uch im sure you wouldnt have beaten them in 2004, unless you dived like you did against aussi land just sayiing you know. we are talking about atm so why do u keep talking about the greeks, ya we lost so what its not like you havent lost

Are you implying there's something wrong with Greeks and it's wrong for me to love their beautiful culture, lush land, characteristic housing and islands, and crystal clear water ? Not to mention cuisine ? A little derogatory and belligerent are we not ?

I'd respond, but there is no such place by the name of "Aussi land." Not to mention Portugal are known for diving. See 2006 World Cup v. England.

We haven't lost to you...so, it is like we haven't lost. Learn the facts.

mocking is not arguing.
i was just saying you love to bring up our lose to greece every second, i do not know why? i can bring so many italy losses like the ones in 2004 and 2010

Who's mocking ? There is no place called "Aussi land" unless of course you're once again racially profiling another group of individuals.

Why don't you bring up the loss on July 9th 2006 where we did something Portugal has yet, and will not ever do. :coffee:
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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:30 am

Mock in 2004 - 2010?

Mock all you want.

We won the World Cup. What have you won? Oh that's right nothing. :coffee:

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:31 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:BTW curious as to how Portugal, with their amazing defence, let in seven goals...almost the amount of Norway and Denmark combined.

Great point indeed, I wonder how their defense is better than us currently. Stats show it isn't, and once again were better at them in something else. :coffee:

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Post by theaguia Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:33 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
sciacca wrote:
theaguia wrote:in my opinion
gk italy wins

fullbacks- portugal(coentrao, silvio, bosingwa, j.perreira> all italian fullbacks)

centre backs portugal( chillieni=pepe, carvalho> ranoccia or bonucci

mid- portugal(moutinho+ meirles> marchisio+pirlo, montilivo is better than martins but doesnt change the scale, not even consider aqualaini who probably will lose his spot in the nt unless he somehow comes out all guns blazing in pool.

forwards(portugal just by little)- amazing fire power in wingers like nani, cr7, varela. Italy has better strikers in g. rossi and quad but no one to supply them

Just goes to show your knowledge towards football is poor. Only part your right on is Fullbacks. As for Center Backs Chiellini both destroys Pepe and Carvalho. Wingers are irrelavent because our system does not use wingers. As for strikers, since when does Rossi need to supply? He is the support striker, the Support Striker supplies the other Center Forwards like Quag.

Said perfectly. Not to mention the supply comes from Pirlo and Cassano, two creative playmakers who will tear apart Portugal's defence not to mention their midfield. De Rossi added into the mix and good game.
3-1.

if cassano is such an amazing player why cant he get into the milan side, like i said he will dropped if prandelli sticks to his word, and pirlo ya he is a great player but tell me unless he is past it why would milan release him?

chiellini destroys pepe nd carvalho dont be so dillusional

i know rossi is asupport striker but he does need some sort of supply, he is a creative striker but he is not a playmaker.
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sciacca wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:BTW curious as to how Portugal, with their amazing defence, let in seven goals...almost the amount of Norway and Denmark combined.

Great point indeed, I wonder how their defense is better than us currently. Stats show it isn't, and once again were better at them in something else. :coffee:

if we had paulo bento from the first qualifier it wouldnt have happened.

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Post by JuvenelCuore Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:38 am

theaguia wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
sciacca wrote:
theaguia wrote:in my opinion
gk italy wins

fullbacks- portugal(coentrao, silvio, bosingwa, j.perreira> all italian fullbacks)

centre backs portugal( chillieni=pepe, carvalho> ranoccia or bonucci

mid- portugal(moutinho+ meirles> marchisio+pirlo, montilivo is better than martins but doesnt change the scale, not even consider aqualaini who probably will lose his spot in the nt unless he somehow comes out all guns blazing in pool.

forwards(portugal just by little)- amazing fire power in wingers like nani, cr7, varela. Italy has better strikers in g. rossi and quad but no one to supply them

Just goes to show your knowledge towards football is poor. Only part your right on is Fullbacks. As for Center Backs Chiellini both destroys Pepe and Carvalho. Wingers are irrelavent because our system does not use wingers. As for strikers, since when does Rossi need to supply? He is the support striker, the Support Striker supplies the other Center Forwards like Quag.

Said perfectly. Not to mention the supply comes from Pirlo and Cassano, two creative playmakers who will tear apart Portugal's defence not to mention their midfield. De Rossi added into the mix and good game.
3-1.

if cassano is such an amazing player why cant he get into the milan side, like i said he will dropped if prandelli sticks to his word, and pirlo ya he is a great player but tell me unless he is past it why would milan release him?

chiellini destroys pepe nd carvalho dont be so dillusional

i know rossi is asupport striker but he does need some sort of supply, he is a creative striker but he is not a playmaker.

"Why can't he get into the Milan side."

You may have heard of guys named Wesley Sneijder and Arjen Robben. Both couldn't make it into Real Madrid. Both are considered top 10 in the world arguably due to Robben. Sneijder definitely top 10. So settle down.

"He is a creative striker but he is not a playmaker."

Who would he need to create plays with ? The opposing CB's and GK ? Strikers are never playmakers; Xavi, Iniesta, Pirlo, Fabregas, Modric, etc. are playmakers. Learn you facts.
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theaguia wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
sciacca wrote:
theaguia wrote:in my opinion
gk italy wins

fullbacks- portugal(coentrao, silvio, bosingwa, j.perreira> all italian fullbacks)

centre backs portugal( chillieni=pepe, carvalho> ranoccia or bonucci

mid- portugal(moutinho+ meirles> marchisio+pirlo, montilivo is better than martins but doesnt change the scale, not even consider aqualaini who probably will lose his spot in the nt unless he somehow comes out all guns blazing in pool.

forwards(portugal just by little)- amazing fire power in wingers like nani, cr7, varela. Italy has better strikers in g. rossi and quad but no one to supply them

Just goes to show your knowledge towards football is poor. Only part your right on is Fullbacks. As for Center Backs Chiellini both destroys Pepe and Carvalho. Wingers are irrelavent because our system does not use wingers. As for strikers, since when does Rossi need to supply? He is the support striker, the Support Striker supplies the other Center Forwards like Quag.

Said perfectly. Not to mention the supply comes from Pirlo and Cassano, two creative playmakers who will tear apart Portugal's defence not to mention their midfield. De Rossi added into the mix and good game.
3-1.

if cassano is such an amazing player why cant he get into the milan side, like i said he will dropped if prandelli sticks to his word, and pirlo ya he is a great player but tell me unless he is past it why would milan release him?

chiellini destroys pepe nd carvalho dont be so dillusional

i know rossi is asupport striker but he does need some sort of supply, he is a creative striker but he is not a playmaker.

He's not currently playing due do the fact that he is overweight, he needs to be fit. That's all. Has nothing to do with him not being good enough, but then again what do you know? You don't even follow Serie A enough.

Yes? I'm delusional, of course I'am. I don't even need to explain myself.



You got Cassano, Aquilani, Pirlo, Marchisio, Giovinco and Montolivo who are all play makers... for crying out loud. And by the way, you claim he is not a play maker then why on earth is he a support striker? Who is he creating players to? The invisible striker?

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you re contradicting with your fellow juventino
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