Former Player: Toni Kroos

I totally agree with this, the coach should start Playing Muller more as a striker and if by any chance Olic leave, which is quite certain then we have two quality strikers and Petersen as backup.

Also I see Muller starting chances reducing even more if Reus ever arrived in Bayern, also the development of Alaba is also quite frightening for Muller, this is the problem when you play for such a good team, you always have to be at your best to fight of challenges from hungry young players and to be fair Muller has not been in his best of recent.

Also it will be nice having top Players who can make impact on the bench, as of now we only have Gustavo, Alaba and Olic as our only bench players that can make impact.

It will be nice if our bench looks like this.

Butt, Contento, Badstuber, Breno, Rafinha, Gustavo, Alaba, Reus, Muller, Petersen.

In
Hummels, Howedes & Reus.

Out
DVB, Pranjic and Olic

Anyone got his opta stats for passes attempted/passes completed? That would easily solve the childish Kross vs Wilshere.

Kroos is what Bayern need at the moment Muller should play right wing in away games and Robben at home

Kroos is the top assister in this CL campaign for Bayern with 4 four assists No one has more

Kroos is the leading assister along Gaitan in CL with 4 direct assists

chinomaster182 wrote:Anyone got his opta stats for passes attempted/passes completed? That would easily solve the childish Kross vs Wilshere.

You won't like it I'll look for the stats later

chinomaster182 wrote:Anyone got his opta stats for passes attempted/passes completed? That would easily solve the childish Kross vs Wilshere.

This season:

Kroos:
Bundesliga: 538/617 - 87.19%
UCL: 279/305 - 91.47%

Crimson wrote:

chinomaster182 wrote:Anyone got his opta stats for passes attempted/passes completed? That would easily solve the childish Kross vs Wilshere.

This season:

Kroos:
Bundesliga: 538/617 - 87.19%
UCL: 279/305 - 91.47%

Thx Crimson

A side not, in BL Kroos played mostly CAM and sometimes CM /regista. In CL, he played in CAM role only

I bet Kroos definitely have better pass rate than Wilshere.

Last game Jack played:

Away against Fullham
74 passes
63 succesfull/11 unsuccesfull

85.15%

If anyone wants to bother getting the whole season stats be my guest, early evidence suggests they're pretty much the same (flame shield up!).

Taken from guardian.co.uk

chinomaster182 wrote:Last game Jack played:

Away against Fullham
74 passes
63 succesfull/11 unsuccesfull

85.15%

If anyone wants to bother getting the whole season stats be my guest, early evidence suggests they're pretty much the same (flame shield up!).

Taken from guardian.co.uk

This season:

Kroos:
Bundesliga: 538/617 - 87.19%
UCL: 279/305 - 91.47%

This suggest to me that Kroos passing rate might be much better...

chinomaster182 wrote:Anyone got his opta stats for passes attempted/passes completed? That would easily solve the childish Kross vs Wilshere.

I ignored your post at first. What kind of response do you expect after posting BS about Kroos in Kroos thread without any background knowledge?

Idrisozet wrote:

chinomaster182 wrote:Last game Jack played:

Away against Fullham
74 passes
63 succesfull/11 unsuccesfull

85.15%

If anyone wants to bother getting the whole season stats be my guest, early evidence suggests they're pretty much the same (flame shield up!).

Taken from guardian.co.uk

This season:

Kroos:
Bundesliga: 538/617 - 87.19%
UCL: 279/305 - 91.47%

This suggest to me that Kroos passing rate might be much better...

Iceman wrote:

All of you, post on topic or GTFO from Kroos thread! Nobody is talking about Wilshere. When he is back, we'll discuss the matter in ' my rightback is better than yours' section
For 'smarta****' who don't know, for now Wilshere is CM and Kroos CAM

I never said anything. I just posted a at the logic of taking one game from Wilshere as some sort of standard when it could well be below or above his average.

Idrisozet wrote:

chinomaster182 wrote:Last game Jack played:

Away against Fullham
74 passes
63 succesfull/11 unsuccesfull

85.15%

If anyone wants to bother getting the whole season stats be my guest, early evidence suggests they're pretty much the same (flame shield up!).

Taken from guardian.co.uk

This season:

Kroos:
Bundesliga: 538/617 - 87.19%
UCL: 279/305 - 91.47%

This suggest to me that Kroos passing rate might be much better...

That may well be......however the Premeir Leauge is a different story from the Bundesliga, not just in quality but in game tempo........the higher the tempo the more difficult it is to pass accurately.

The tempo isn't decided by the league, but by the teams playing. Arsenal can regularly get 60% possession due to them setting the tempo. Wilshere was a big part of that, so I don't really understand the comparisons. As Babun said, Kroos is an AM and Wilshere at top flight has only played CM. Both have pros and cos, and it's just silly to compare when Wilshere isn't even playing and will probably take a while to get back to shape and to his former form.

Two assists from set pieces in a Bayern's lethargic displays Bayern aren't used to run much it shows in after CL games where they press like crazy in the first 60 minutes

Some nice dribble:

babun1024 wrote:Bayern aren't used to run much it shows in after CL games where they press like crazy in the first 60 minutes.

According to a pundit, the Mainz team ran 6km more than the Bayern team. They are obviously too lazy.

rwo power wrote:

babun1024 wrote:Bayern aren't used to run much it shows in after CL games where they press like crazy in the first 60 minutes.

According to a pundit, the Mainz team ran 6km more than the Bayern team. They are obviously too lazy.

If Mainz' midfielders run 6km more then it's a cause for concern to them

babun1024 wrote:

rwo power wrote:

babun1024 wrote:Bayern aren't used to run much it shows in after CL games where they press like crazy in the first 60 minutes.

According to a pundit, the Mainz team ran 6km more than the Bayern team. They are obviously too lazy.

If Mainz' midfielders run 6km more then it's a cause for concern to them

Dortmund ran even 10km more than Bayern

Any information would be appreciated. Also, if you know what the starting line up might look like, that would be fantastic

Thank you for the help, guys.

------------Neuer------------------
Boateng-DVB---Badstuber-Lahm
-----------Tymo--Alaba--------------
Muller---------Kroos----------Ribery
----------------Gomez----------------

Or

-----------Neuer---------------
Rafinha-DVB---Boateng-Lahm
----------Tymo--Kroos-----------
Robben----Muller--------Ribery
-------------Gomez----------------


Kroos will definitely start for Bayern in all matches, as long as his not injured. He is the most important player in our line-up as far as I am concerned..

Yeah, he's definitely starting and Idrisozet got the only possible line ups correct.

The only thing you could alter there is Gustavo for Tymo, depending on what Heynckes wants.

Toni Kroos and Robben are out of the match, I also heard Breno may play his first since returning from injury..

Jupp might now probably play.

-----------------Butt-----------------------
Rafinha--Breno--Boateng--Contento
---------Gustavo--Alaba--------------
Olic------------Muller-----------Pranjic
----------------Olic----------------------

We can jiust throw the match, we've alrerady won the group.

Idrisozet wrote:Toni Kroos and Robben are out of the match, I also heard Breno may play his first since returning from injury..

Jupp might now probably play.

-----------------Butt-----------------------
Rafinha--Breno--Boateng--Contento
---------Gustavo--Alaba--------------
Olic------------Muller-----------Pranjic
----------------Olic----------------------

We can jiust throw the match, we've alrerady won the group.

Breno stayed in Munich, fcbayern.de wrote. So you have to put Badstuber there, I'd say
And I doubt that Heynckes won't play Neuer.

Source: http://www.fcbayern.telekom.de/de/aktuell/news/2011/32498.php?fcb_sid=760acb980e9cc2c000f480df3bea67aa

BTW, playing Olic twice is a really innovative formation

rwo power wrote:Breno stayed in Munich, fcbayern.de wrote. So you have to put Badstuber there, I'd say
And I doubt that Heynckes won't play Neuer.

Source: http://www.fcbayern.telekom.de/de/aktuell/news/2011/32498.php?fcb_sid=760acb980e9cc2c000f480df3bea67aa

Butt is also a good goalkeeper and very proffessional, I would rather see Gustavo as CB and Tymo as DM than Badstuber, he can not defend and if he plays against City, we'llbe destroyed.

I think I read somewhere that Heynckes might consider playing Lahm as DM even. I think we'll have to wait and see tomorrow.