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Post by LeVersacci Sun May 27, 2012 1:57 am

:I'munoriginal:

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Post by Harmonica Sun May 27, 2012 11:53 am

:bow: Victor Valdes. :bow:
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Post by Zealous Sun May 27, 2012 12:07 pm

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Given the fact that 4 of the 5 keepers who ranked top in their respective divisions played for sides who will be playing Champions League football next season, and 3 of the previous 4 lowest performers played for teams who were either relegated or in a scrap at the bottom, Victor Valdes' inclusion in the latter cluster is perhaps the most alarming. Facing only 91 shots on target over the season, Valdes saved just 60 (66%) ranking him bottom of La Liga's keepers to appear in at least half of the league matches,

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Post by guest7 Sun May 27, 2012 12:17 pm

Le Samourai wrote:Given the fact that 4 of the 5 keepers who ranked top in their respective divisions played for sides who will be playing Champions League football next season, and 3 of the previous 4 lowest performers played for teams who were either relegated or in a scrap at the bottom, Victor Valdes' inclusion in the latter cluster is perhaps the most alarming. Facing only 91 shots on target over the season, Valdes saved just 60 (66%) ranking him bottom of La Liga's keepers to appear in at least half of the league matches,

Can you show us the full list?

But lol... Laughing
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Post by kiranr Sun May 27, 2012 12:32 pm

Le Samourai wrote:
Given the fact that 4 of the 5 keepers who ranked top in their respective divisions played for sides who will be playing Champions League football next season, and 3 of the previous 4 lowest performers played for teams who were either relegated or in a scrap at the bottom, Victor Valdes' inclusion in the latter cluster is perhaps the most alarming. Facing only 91 shots on target over the season, Valdes saved just 60 (66%) ranking him bottom of La Liga's keepers to appear in at least half of the league matches,


I hope it is not trying to imply what i think it is trying to imply. If it is, then it is the stupidest thing i have read in a while.
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Post by Zealous Sun May 27, 2012 12:56 pm

If it's implying that Valdes is overrated then it is 100% correct.
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Post by Le Samourai Sun May 27, 2012 1:01 pm

It's a stat, an inanimate piece of data plucked from thousands of it's kind.I don't think it knows how to go about the process of implying.

Valdes made two types of history though, first keeper to win the Zamora while having the lowest save percentage in the league.
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Post by 7amood11 Sun May 27, 2012 1:08 pm

Here's the article where it talks about Valdes' low save percentage:

http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/assbsgyoxkq9l1psq1imzg/Show/Player-Focus-Save-Success-Rate

Btw, Buffon has the highest save percentage in Europe, Stekelenburg has the lowest in Italy.
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Post by Harmonica Sun May 27, 2012 1:09 pm

:bow: Victor the :bow: Valdes :bow: http://balancedsports.blogspot.com/p/premiership-goalkeeper-stats-valid-may.html

0.826%


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 27, 2012 1:09 pm

Zealous wrote:If it's implying that Valdes is overrated then it is 100% correct.

Funny that because outside of Barca fans no one seems to rate him Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Sun May 27, 2012 1:10 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Zealous wrote:If it's implying that Valdes is overrated then it is 100% correct.

Funny that because outside of Barca fans no one seems to rate him Laughing
Hence the most underrated.
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Post by Zealous Sun May 27, 2012 1:15 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Zealous wrote:If it's implying that Valdes is overrated then it is 100% correct.

Funny that because outside of Barca fans no one seems to rate him Laughing

Still overrated.
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Post by fatman123 Sun May 27, 2012 1:15 pm

jiopsi wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Zealous wrote:If it's implying that Valdes is overrated then it is 100% correct.

Funny that because outside of Barca fans no one seems to rate him Laughing
Hence the most underrated.

so if all the Chelsea fans keep hyping up Torres...... hmm
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Post by fatman123 Sun May 27, 2012 1:17 pm

7amood11 wrote:Here's the article where it talks about Valdes' low save percentage:

http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/assbsgyoxkq9l1psq1imzg/Show/Player-Focus-Save-Success-Rate

Btw, Buffon has the highest save percentage in Europe, Stekelenburg has the lowest in Italy.

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Post by Zealous Sun May 27, 2012 1:28 pm

Buffon Who scored Rating 6.8

Al-Habsi Who scored rating 6.6

hmm
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Post by guest7 Sun May 27, 2012 1:30 pm

All top keepers bar Valdes have over 70% hmm
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun May 27, 2012 1:32 pm

Guys, stats mean nothing, Valdes won the bobby Zamora trophy after all :I'munoriginal:
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Post by kiranr Sun May 27, 2012 1:39 pm

Laughing

Hilarious how you guys forget to mention Valdes had the best percentages over the past two seasons.

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Post by 7amood11 Sun May 27, 2012 1:41 pm

jiopsi wrote: :bow: Victor the :bow: Valdes :bow: http://balancedsports.blogspot.com/p/premiership-goalkeeper-stats-valid-may.html

0.826%

That source isn't up to date at all.

Look at the number of games played. Each GK has a maximum of 17, 18 or 19 games. These stats were taken halfway through the season.

You want the full-season statistics for Valdes, look at this. (He has the lowest save percentage in league games in La Liga)
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 27, 2012 1:45 pm

Zealous wrote:Buffon Who scored Rating 6.8

Al-Habsi Who scored rating 6.6

hmm

According to Whoscored.... Al-Habsi is 6.58 and Krul is 6.66 :coffee:

The question has finally been answered banana

Spoiler:
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Post by Zealous Sun May 27, 2012 1:49 pm

whoscored is BS anyway.

Al-Habsi is the goat. :bow:
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 27, 2012 2:07 pm

Zealous wrote:whoscored is BS anyway.

Al-Habsi is the goat. :bow:

Agreed but would they still be BS if Al-Habsi's average score was higher i wonder hmm
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Post by Zealous Sun May 27, 2012 2:11 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Zealous wrote:whoscored is BS anyway.

Al-Habsi is the goat. :bow:

Agreed but would they still be BS if Al-Habsi's average score was higher i wonder hmm

No because then they would be correct i.e. not BS

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Post by Harmonica Sun May 27, 2012 2:26 pm

kiranr wrote:Laughing
Hilarious how you guys forget to mention Valdes had the best percentages over the past two seasons.
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Post by Le Samourai Sun May 27, 2012 2:29 pm

Sooo....

He can go from best to worst and still win the Zamora?

Clearly a difference maker :bow:
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Post by Harmonica Sun May 27, 2012 2:30 pm

Sadurni: "Valdes is a much better keeper than casillas, from here to Lima. Valdes should play for ESP."

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