Formula 1 Season 2012

The German race was all right, but tires are playing too big a part nowadays.

I mean, it's suppose to be the best motorsports in the world but instead of drivers driving their heart out every lap they have to take it easy in order to preserve their tires. I think that's bullshhh.

On the flip side, Art, we are getting to see very very interesting races this season because of the tire issues.

Table So Far[u][i][b][center][list][*]

1. Alonso 154
2. Webber 120
3. Vettel 118
4. Raikkonen 95
5. Hamilton 92
6. Rosberg 76
7. Button 65
8. Grosjean 61
9. Perez 47
10. Kobayashi 31
11. Maldonado 29
12. Schumacher 29
13. Di Resta 27
14. Massa 23
15. Hulkenberg 19
16. Senna 18
17. Vergne 4
18. Riccardo 2





Constructors:

1. Red Bull-Renault 238
2. Ferrari 177
3. McLaren-Mercedes 157
4. Lotus-Renault 156
5. Mercedes AMG F1 105
6. Sauber Ferrari F1 78
7. Williams Renault 47
8. Force India Mercedes 46
9. STR Ferrari 6





Teams/Drivers:

Red Bull Racing



Drivers: Sebastian Vettel , Mark Webber
Team profile: Team Principal - Christian Horner ; Technical Director - Adrian Newey ; Chief Designer - Rob Marshall ; Head of Aerodynamics - Peter Prodromou
Car: Red Bull RB8

Vodafone Mclaren Mercedes



Drivers: Jenson Button , Lewis Hamilton
Team profile: Team Principal - Martin Whitmarsh ; Technical Director - Pady Lowe, Neal Oatley ; Engineering Director - Tim Goss ; Head of Aerodynamics - Doug McKiernan
Car: McLaren MP4-27

Scuderia Ferrari



Drivers: Fernando Alonso , Felipe Massa
Team Profile: Team Principal - Stephano Domenicali ; Technical Director - Pat Fry ; Chief Designer - Nicolas Tombazis
Car: F2012

Mercedes AMG F1



Drivers: Nico Rosberg , Michael Schumacher
Team Profile: Team Principal - Ross Brawn ; Technical Director - Bob Bell ; Engineering Director - Aldo Costa ; Technology Director (Head of Aerodynamics) - Geoff Willis / *Loic Bigois released, May 2012
Car: Mercedes F1 W03

Lotus F1



Drivers: Kimi Raikkonen , Romain Grosjean
Team Profile: Team Principal - Eric Bouiller ; Technical Director - James Allison ; Chief Designer - Martin Tolliday; Head of Aerodynamics - Dirk de Beer
Car: Lotus E20

Force India



Drivers: Paul Di Resta , Nico Hulkenberg
Team Profile: Team Principal - Vijay Mallya ; Technical Director - Andrew Green
Car: Force India VJM05

Sauber F1



Drivers: Kamui Kobayashi , Sergio Perez
Team Profile: Team Principal - Peter Sauber ; Technical Director - James Key *Released - rumours linking him to join STR
Chief Designer - Matt Morris; Head of Aerodynamics - Willem Toet
Car: Sauber C31

Scuderia Torro Rosso



Drivers: Jean-eric Vergne , Daniel Riccardo
Team Profile: Team Principal - Franz Tost ; Technical Director - Giorgio Ascanelli *Released - rumoured to have linked for Ferrari return
Car: Toro Rosso STR7

Williams F1



Drivers: Pastor Maldonado , Bruno Senna
Team Profile: Team Principal - Sir Frank Williams *retired this year, will be taken over by his daughter Claire ; Technical Director - Mike Coughlan ; Head of Aerodynamics - Jason Somerville
Car: Williams FW34

Caterham F1



Drivers: Heikki Kovalainen , Vitaly Petrov
Team Profile: Team Principal - Tony Fernandes ; Technical Director - Mike Gascoyne; Head of Aerodymanics - John Iley
Car: Caterham CT01

Marussia F1



Drivers: Timo Glock , Charles Pic
Team Profile: Team Principal - John Booth ; Technical Director - Pat Symmonds
Car: Virgin MVR-02

HRT F1



Drivers: Pedro De La Rosa , Narain Karthikeyan
Team Profile: Team Principal - Luis Pérez-Sala ; Technical Director -
Car: HRT F112

Vibe wrote:Yeah,backwards

oh okay.

Different race this weekend from the previous two. Surely it won't be like last year and we'll resume to sunny and very hot temperatures at Hungarian GP!!!

Qualie will be so important! Because it ain't an easy track to pass on, and it will also come down to who manages their tires the best.

Come On Ferrari!!! (still believe in you Massa)

Vibe wrote:Hamilton's pace

not surprised one bit, they had massive upgrades in germany and here in hungary. when they horribly failed with their standard at silverstone, seems they had serious technical meeting at woking, at mclaren base, and paddy lowe and team manager jonathan neale suggested they will bring updates which they did.

team is going for a long break after this race, and factory will be closed... i think its kind of mandatory FIA ruling.... not quite sure about that but yea mclaren brought massive updates.... before the break.

red bull also had to tweak their ECU engine mapping , whether that has slowed red bull a little bit no one knows except them...

mclaren really had some huge upgrade package since german gp, they should have won 1-2 .
new floor, new sidepods, upgraded radiator inlets, diffuser upgrades, rear endplates have been modified a bit compared to the one they had... some minor FW modification too.

tomorrow rain.... anyone could win... unless weather deceives...

There are new speculation surfacing that Giorgio Ascanelli (who happens to be milan fan ^O~V) has left Torro Rosso and speculation that he will join ferrari. he is ex-ferrari mclaren engineer and also race engineer of late senna.
and would be replaced by James Key, who has worked as TD of recently sauber 2010-2011, and force india.

also new rumours surfacing that Mike Elliot who left Renault f1 in November, well has been said to have joined Mercedes AMG f1 as new Head of Aero ... void left by Loic-Bigois, and Biogis name is linked to ferrari.

Tombazis is overlooking aero areas and chief design (chassis) at the same time, so Ferrari are probably looking for new aerodynamicist.

Mike Elliot is ex-renault head of aerodynamics, also has worked at mclaren, Mike was educated at Driffield School and Imperial College, London, where he achieved a PhD in Aeronautics (btw, Nicolas Tombazis is also Imperial College alumni/Imperial College offered a place for Nico Rosberg to study Aeronautics but he declined to pursue racing career)before joining the McLaren F1 team in 1999. He moved to Renault in 2008. There has been speculation that he joined possibly under the recommendation of Bob Bell who is now Mercedes TD and had worked with mike during renault days...

Mercedes f1 hasnt officially revealed him, but seems nico spoiled the surprise early by talking to some minor medias saying he had been talking to Elliot about new ideas in the team.... interesting...

Red Bull remained on the defensive in the Hockenheim Formula One paddock on Friday, as boss Christian Horner fended off the latest cheat claim.

A German magazine this week revealed that, in Canada, the FIA asked the reigning champions to remove a hand adjustable damper system from the RB8.

The rules state that the adjustments can only be made with a special tool, thus ensuring a team cannot secretly make performance enhancing changes during the strict 'parc ferme' period between qualifying and the race.

It is just the latest technical controversy involving Red Bull, hot on the heels of the 'hole in the floor' saga earlier this year, a wheel hub issue, and most recently the outlawed extreme 'engine maps'.

Horner is quoted by Auto Motor und Sport: "We have never adjusted the right height under parc ferme conditions. Neither by tool or by hand."

The report, however, said Horner did not deny the former existence of the hand adjustable system.

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Red bull being center of attention yet again .... Red Bull themselves know what they are doing is very much in tightrope and may get themselves in serious trouble....

Vibe wrote:1 hour 15 minutes Track was wet as hell when GP3 race started but it dried fully by the time GP2 race ended.If there's no further rain we are looking at a dry race...I think Porsche Super Cup is on ATM.It looked sunny as well.

weather

was hoping for wet race... thx for update vibe...

just a second thought

lol good ... !!! dry race, team have to start with whatever tires they qualified with, means we are going to see tire war and gambles between teams woohoo..

tire deciding race outcome

also after this race would be interesting lot talk about drivers market. lewis is out of contract by the end of season, still negotiating with Ron Dennis about new deal.

Meanwhile, nothing will save Massa from loosing that Ferrari seat for next season.
Only thing i believe massa is staying at ferrari is due to his management representative, Nicolas Todt who is the son of Jean Todt... former ferrari team principal...


Ferrari has been exploring lots of candidates, Di Riesta, Sergio Perez, Nico Rosberg was likened by Montezemolo until he signed new long term deal with Mercedes. webber was linked as well and he has signed 1 year extention with red bull. Vettel is out of contract by the end of 2013.

Button has extended until end of 2013. and just today new report suggested that Adrian Sutil management was in ferrari motorhome.
Nico Hulkenburg was also linked but he says he is ok where he is at force india.

so lots to choose from for Ferrari .... unfortunately for massa if he leaves ferrari he wont get competitive car because all competitive seats will be taken.

Sauber is also considering both perez and kobayashi future, meanwhile Kovalainen and Jaime Alguesuari is linked with sauber.

Force India boss meanwhile is willing to give Jules Bianchi a full time seat if seat opens up.
i bow to him because Mallya has given future to promising drivers... great man!!!

meanwhile schumacher is ready to extend his contract with mercedes and they will announce possibly by october.

Vibe wrote:I think that rule is pretty stupid TBH.Teams should have unlimited amount of tires and start on whatever they want.I don't see the point of those limits and drive on what you qualified rule.

i agree, It make race more entertaining and drivers pushing the car to limit ... we will see more aggressive race then...

i with with same wavelength here.... we want some aggressive races aggressive pit strategies..

Vibe wrote:I would take Grosjean in the second Ferrari seat in a heartbeat.His contract runs out this season,I'm surprised he's never been mentioned as an option.

Eric Bouiller is the representative for Grosjean... so i doubt Grosjean would move elsewhere... Bouiller was the one who gave him second chance so... i think Grosjean will stay loyal...

interestingly , new paper talk suggested that Kimi Raikkonen is another candidate to ferrari seat .....

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101607


btw vibe ur well informed on grosjean.. yes his contract run out by the end of the year... but he will probably renew.

Lotus has been firm that by 2013-2014 they will be fighting for championship.... and already they have built a great car capable of winning constructors...

Vibe wrote:I guess it depends on whether Ferrari decided to have a 2nd driver as always or two equal drivers.

doubt Ferrari want Equality... they have always wanted 2nd fiddle playing driver with a champion driver...

so they probably will look for that.

though Domenicali says never say never to Vettel... also, alonso who has long term contract says he would have no problems seeing vettel as his partner...

Race Hungarian GP Results:

Classified:

Pos Driver Team Time
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1h41:05.503
2. Raikkonen Lotus-Renault + 1.032
3. Grosjean Lotus-Renault + 10.518
4. Vettel Red Bull-Renault + 11.614
5. Alonso Ferrari + 26.653
6. Button McLaren-Mercedes + 30.243
7. Senna Williams-Renault + 33.899
8. Webber Red Bull-Renault + 34.458
9. Massa Ferrari + 38.300
10. Rosberg Mercedes + 51.200
11. Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes + 57.200
12. Di Resta Force India-Mercedes + 1:02.800
13. Maldonado Williams-Renault + 1:03.600
14. Perez Sauber-Ferrari + 1:04.400
15. Ricciardo Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap
16. Vergne Toro Rosso-Ferrari + 1 lap
17. Kovalainen Caterham-Renault + 1 lap
18. Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari + 2 laps
19. Petrov Caterham-Renault + 2 laps
20. Pic Marussia-Cosworth + 2 laps
21. Glock Marussia-Cosworth + 3 laps
22. De la Rosa HRT-Cosworth + 3 laps

Fastest lap: Vettel, 1:24.136

Not classified/retirements:

Driver Team On lap
Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 63
Schumacher Mercedes 61

My Fave is Mark Webber Team:Red Bull Racing-Renault
My Prediction It is the day after Hungary. The Next Race Is Belgium.
1: Mark Webber 381
2: Fernando Alonso 377
3: Sebastian Vettel 361
4: Lewis Hamilton 311
5: Kimi Raikonnen 309
6: Romain Grosjean 300
7: Jensen Button 297
8: Nico Rosberg 202
9: Sergio Perez 194
10: Bruno Senna 160
11: Felipe Massa 127
12: Kamui Kobayashi 101
13: Paul di Resta 96
14: Micheal Schumacer 90
15: Pastor Maldonado 89
16: Nico Hulkenburg 36
17: Jean-Eric Vergne 17
18: Daniel Riccardo 13
19: Vitaly Petrov 9
20: Heikki Kovalainen 4
21: Charles Pic 3
22: Pedro de la Rosa 2
23: Timo Glock 2
24: Narain Karthikeyan 1
Teams
Red Bull Racing-Renault 742
Lotus 609
Mclaren Mercades 608
Ferrari 454
Sauber 295
Mercades 282
Williams 223
Force India 132
STR 30
Caterham 13
Marussia 5
HRT 3


Mark Webber Leading at start of MONACO grand prix



Left Mark Webber ---- Right Kovalinen


Button VS Vettel


Sorry but right-click the image place and open in new tab

Remember Mark Webber's Crash in 2010 Valencia?!
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kNZzqqdhM0

Mercedes AMG f1, seems to be going yet another technical staffs reshuffle within the team, says some minor sources after some disastrous mid season performance.

Since Loic Bigois left void in senior aerodynamics, Mike Elliott has taken the role as Senior Aerodynamicist, and Mercedes has confirmed to gupdate.net though yet to officially announce him.

though in media there are some vast speculation to what will happen to Aldo Costa, Geoff Willis, and Bob Bell, quite high profile technical staff who joined from early april 2011, to late december 2011, i am convinced they are very much part of the project of next W04 car.

actually i am pretty sure Aldo Costa and Willis has already been working by now on W04 designing and planning.

seems, though mercedes board has run out of patience, and is demanding explanation and fast improvements within the team.

W03 i guess cant be improved that much, though car performance is definitely falling because of lack of development, that mercedes hasnt brought any major updates since Monaco GP where Nico Rosberg finished 2nd.

Loic Bigois, who was sacked by Mercedes in June and is set to become Head of Aerodynamics for Ferrari at the start of September.

Vibe wrote:

Messiisaac wrote:My Fave is Mark Webber Team:Red Bull Racing-Renault
My Prediction It is the day after Hungary. The Next Race Is Belgium.
1: Mark Webber 381
2: Fernando Alonso 377
3: Sebastian Vettel 361
4: Lewis Hamilton 311
5: Kimi Raikonnen 309
6: Romain Grosjean 300
7: Jensen Button 297
8: Nico Rosberg 202
9: Sergio Perez 194
10: Bruno Senna 160
11: Felipe Massa 127
12: Kamui Kobayashi 101
13: Paul di Resta 96
14: Micheal Schumacer 90
15: Pastor Maldonado 89
16: Jean-Eric Vergne 88
17: Daniel Riccardo 67
18: Vitaly Petrov 37
19: Nico Hulkenburg 36
*20: Heikki Kovalainen 4 10th in USA, 8th in Abu Dhabi
*21: Charles Pic 3 8th in USA
*22: Pedro de la Rosa 2 10th in Japan, Belgium
*23: Timo Glock 2 9th in India
*24: Narain Karthikeyan 1 10th in India
Teams
Red Bull Racing-Renault 742
Lotus 609
Mclaren Mercades 608
Ferrari 454
Sauber 295
Mercades 282
Williams 223
STR 155
Force India 132
Caterham 41
Marussia 5
HRT 3
You Did'nt Expext these with *!

Toro Rosso winning 155 points Vitaly Petrov 37 You are mad bro...

Erm... Petrov is with Caterham & He has 0 pts.

JespSwe wrote:Mercedes AMG f1, seems to be going yet another technical staffs reshuffle within the team, says some minor sources after some disastrous mid season performance.

Since Loic Bigois left void in senior aerodynamics, Mike Elliott has taken the role as Senior Aerodynamicist, and Mercedes has confirmed to gupdate.net though yet to officially announce him.

though in media there are some vast speculation to what will happen to Aldo Costa, Geoff Willis, and Bob Bell, quite high profile technical staff who joined from early april 2011, to late december 2011, i am convinced they are very much part of the project of next W04 car.

actually i am pretty sure Aldo Costa and Willis has already been working by now on W04 designing and planning.

seems, though mercedes board has run out of patience, and is demanding explanation and fast improvements within the team.

W03 i guess cant be improved that much, though car performance is definitely falling because of lack of development, that mercedes hasnt brought any major updates since Monaco GP where Nico Rosberg finished 2nd.

Loic Bigois, who was sacked by Mercedes in June and is set to become Head of Aerodynamics for Ferrari at the start of September.

OK...