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Post by juventus101 Thu Mar 01, 2012 11:33 am

Outside of Marco Reus who was trying to impress Lowe, the entire German team looked like they didnt give a shit. Still a good win for France, but it was clear that France wanted the win, while Germany didnt really care about this game at all. Thats usual for Germany though to not care about friendlies much but really step it up when it matters. Remember in 2010, Argentina beat Germany 1-0, and then just a couple months later, with the same teams on the field, Germany spanked them easily. And the only KEY player France was missing was Benzema, but Giroud really stepped it up so he wasnt even missed much. Sagna was not missed cuz with this performance Debuchy wouldve benched him, and Remy is a backup anyways to Benzema most of the time. Yea, Ribery only played half the game, but so did Klose and Muller. And Gomez for the NT is great, but simply not on Kloses level. Germany was also missing Lahm, Mertesacker, and Neuer, who hold that defense together as theyre the most experienced there. And then Schweinsteiger, who is just one of, if not the best midfielder in the world. And then Podolski, who has been on the form of his life and scoring goals for fun for the last 2 seasons. So Germany played basically half their starters, and, while looking like they dont give a shit, still had more chances on goal than an almost full France side. Its a good win by France, but leave it at that.

BTW, both goals came from Aogos flank, where PHILIPP LAHM, the best fullback in the entire world, usually plays.

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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:04 pm

While you're all right and stuff, let's not forget that France won.

I'm actually not worried.
I was annoyed because I wanted us to win, but we didn't look bad. Both our wingers weren't regular starters, and considering that, they linked up well. We combined pretty well in the final third and had a man through on goal like three or four times before France scored - with a bit of luck we could've already been 2 or 3 goals up by the time France opened the scoring.

France on the other hand played great as well, let's not forget that, while both goals came over Aogos flank and we were arguably missing two of our best players in Piggy and Lahm, France pinned us back in our own half for a couple minutes on more than one occasion, which made them look rather dominant.

Those are goals that probably wouldn't be happening to our 1st XI, but nonetheless, France did very well there, but I'm mostly impressed by their defence, and by Lloris, who I already knew was great.

But even while losing, Germany looked good, we always were a threat, and while our finishing was horrible once again, our attacking plays were pretty good, so I'm confident enough for the Euros.

And I'm really glad that France are looking good again. I've missed them.
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Post by la bestia negra Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:34 pm

cacau the GOAT :bow:
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Post by donttreadonred Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:35 pm

Regardless of Germany's state for the game, I thought it was a very encouraging performance for France. I went into the match concerned about losing Benzema and Remy. Giroud more than made up for their absence. This guy was absolute class up front. He may have just earned himself a spot at the Euros with this performance. With Benzema, Remy and Giroud as options to lead the attack, France will be dangerous.

Debuchy was another pleasant surprise (for me, at least). His play down the right was amazing yesterday. If he can keep that up, he will push Sagna and Reveillere for a place in the Euros squad. M'Vila put in his usually classy performance in the midfield. I was a little disappointed by Cabaye, though. He wasn't bad, but I thought he could have assisted more in the link-up play with Nasri. As it was, Nasri was coming deeper to receive the ball and then pushing forward. This may be a result of only playing one league game since Newcastle's loss to Brighton in the FA Cup. I would expect Cabaye - M'Vila to be the partnership in the middle for France this summer.

Even if Germany stopped caring once France scored, the match had many positive signs that France are going to be competitive in the Euros.
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Post by rwo power Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:49 pm

I think with Hugo Lloris in goal, France doesn't have to worry about much. Really great keeper!
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Post by DeviAngel Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:57 pm

France is growing and getting better but if this was knock out match or something that matters Germany would have won.
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Post by rwo power Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:09 pm

Well, if it was an important match, Löw would never have chosen Tim Wiese to play. No matter that he wasn't actually bad, he is a bad luck charm for the German NT. Wiese got 6 caps so far, drawing three of them 2:2 and losing the other three 1:2. So the result of the match was pretty much forseeable. Very Happy

If it was me, I'd leave Wiese at home for the Euro and rather pick ter Stegen in stead of him.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:26 am

Guess when was the last time Germany beat France in footy... 1987.

Since then, France has 5 wins and 1 draw against the German NT. 9 GF and 2 GA. Prior to this game, Germany had gone 4 straight games without scoring a goal against France.

None of you were born the last time Germany beat France in footy lol.
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:47 pm

RWO and I were born, little fella. :coffee:
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Post by billy_gr Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:50 pm

me too... Razz

not that I care but just saying
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Post by rwo power Fri Mar 02, 2012 12:52 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:RWO and I were born, little fella. :coffee:
Shhh! I'm timeless! Razz
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:02 pm

I have to admit, it stung a little when he couldn't even conceive of someone being alive already in '87.

I was already walkin' and talkin' by then, dammit.

I'm too old for this shit.

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Just kidding, I age like good wine.
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Post by sportsczy Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:06 pm

I'm older than all of you lol. Ok... so there are a few here that fall outside the bell curve. But i would imagine over 95% of the peeps here weren't born in 1987. And of the ones who were, almost all were less than 10 years old.

The only point i was making is that the general opinion is that, if Germany would have taken this game seriously, the score would've been different. I disagree. There are no friendlies when the top nations play... 3 of the France NT guys who played got injured and cannot play this weekend. It was a very physical game.
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Post by rwo power Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:32 pm

sportsczy wrote:The only point i was making is that the general opinion is that, if Germany would have taken this game seriously, the score would've been different. I disagree. There are no friendlies when the top nations play... 3 of the France NT guys who played got injured and cannot play this weekend. It was a very physical game.
Well, I agree to disagree with you Very Happy Germany has a habit to mess up in friendlies. Heck, we even lost against Australia and drew with the Ukraine pretty recently. Yes, the match was pretty hard (IMO a bit too hard at times - Reus ramming Ribéry was really not necessary, for ex), but still I think that the players would have put an extra quantum energy in it if it had been a knockout or otherwise crucial match.
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Post by RedOranje Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:36 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:I have to admit, it stung a little when he couldn't even conceive of someone being alive already in '87.

I was already walkin' and talkin' by then, dammit.

I'm too old for this shit.

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Just kidding, I age like good wine.
I always assumed you were more of a twinkie... ageless and filled with a white creamy substance. What a Face
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Post by billy_gr Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:42 pm

disgusting.... :coffee:
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Post by Doc Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:05 pm

I thought Twinkies do, in fact, have an expiry date?
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Post by RedOranje Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:07 pm

Doc wrote:I thought Twinkies do, in fact, have an expiry date?
It's part of the joke, mate. Multiple levels, in that one.
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Post by donttreadonred Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:26 pm

No, no. That date isn't a shelf life. It's a half life.
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Post by Doc Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:44 pm

RedOranje wrote:
Doc wrote:I thought Twinkies do, in fact, have an expiry date?
It's part of the joke, mate. Multiple levels, in that one.

I know, just a subtle movie reference. Razz
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:00 pm

Yeah yeah I'm old yeah yeah Zombieland yeah yeah Family Guy - shut the sh*t up and talk about International Football, the greatest kind of football there is!
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Post by RedOranje Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:02 pm

Ohh, cranky... I suppose it IS pretty late for someone of your age to be up, isn't it? (Yes, I realise it's like 6pm). Very Happy
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:13 pm

Get off my lawn!
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Post by Doc Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:24 pm

I thought the Dutch was suppose to be the crankiest of the lot? Stereo typically of course...
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Post by BarcaLearning Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:56 am

rwo power wrote:
sportsczy wrote:The only point i was making is that the general opinion is that, if Germany would have taken this game seriously, the score would've been different. I disagree. There are no friendlies when the top nations play... 3 of the France NT guys who played got injured and cannot play this weekend. It was a very physical game.
Well, I agree to disagree with you Very Happy Germany has a habit to mess up in friendlies. Heck, we even lost against Australia and drew with the Ukraine pretty recently. Yes, the match was pretty hard (IMO a bit too hard at times - Reus ramming Ribéry was really not necessary, for ex), but still I think that the players would have put an extra quantum energy in it if it had been a knockout or otherwise crucial match.

I seriously doubt Germany dont take friendlies seriously....they are one of the most consistent performers in friendlies actually.... and the results well u cant expect them to win every game, international matches are difficult, unless ur Spain eco smile
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Post by Forza Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:58 am

BarcaLearning wrote:
rwo power wrote:
sportsczy wrote:The only point i was making is that the general opinion is that, if Germany would have taken this game seriously, the score would've been different. I disagree. There are no friendlies when the top nations play... 3 of the France NT guys who played got injured and cannot play this weekend. It was a very physical game.
Well, I agree to disagree with you Very Happy Germany has a habit to mess up in friendlies. Heck, we even lost against Australia and drew with the Ukraine pretty recently. Yes, the match was pretty hard (IMO a bit too hard at times - Reus ramming Ribéry was really not necessary, for ex), but still I think that the players would have put an extra quantum energy in it if it had been a knockout or otherwise crucial match.

I seriously doubt Germany dont take friendlies seriously....they are one of the most consistent performers in friendlies actually.... and the results well u cant expect them to win every game, international matches are difficult, unless ur Spain eco smile

Australia :bow: Slightly related fact... Langerak, Dortmund's 2nd choice keeper was on the bench against Germany in that game. He's a good prospect and should probably be 1st choice, although Weidenfeller has been decent and I'm a bit biased. Wink
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