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Post by izzy Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:31 pm

Would someone like to explain what Mou has to do with this thread about Barca and Pep?

Typical excuse of 'But, but, but he done it THAT TIME!!!!!!'

Got enough for all the delusion and derailment going around.
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Post by Dnmac4 Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:03 pm

See the first page, your exact question was answered.
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Post by izzy Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:07 pm

OK. Why did you bring up Mou in the a Barca and Pep thread?
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Post by delaurentishotz Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:13 pm

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stunt wrote:Mourinho is an arrogant douche, sure. He says what he thinks without a care in the world, and he does it on purpose even, to take pressure away from his players. But an hypocrite? He never said he didnt complain about refs. He's not an hypocrite.

How is him saying that he would be ashamed to win the CL the same way that barca won it, not being hypocrite considering how he won his only 2 CL? :/


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Post by Lord Awesome Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:38 pm

I wouldn't compare Pep to Mou.

Mou I find to be more of a straight in your face douchebag whereas I find Pep to be more of a deciever/instigator.

How about we just say Pep isn't as graceful in defeat as he said he was?
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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:07 pm

stunt wrote:
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stunt wrote:Mourinho is an arrogant douche, sure. He says what he thinks without a care in the world, and he does it on purpose even, to take pressure away from his players. But an hypocrite? He never said he didnt complain about refs. He's not an hypocrite.

So talking about "clean champions leagues" completely ignoring his own win with Porto is not the very definition of a hypocrite?

Huh? So his CL with Porto wasnt clean? Elaborate.

Porto beat Man Utd with Scholes scoring a winning goal to be ruled out for offside, when he wasnt offside.

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Post by stunt Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:32 pm

The Franchise wrote:

Porto beat Man Utd with Scholes scoring a winning goal to be ruled out for offside, when he wasnt offside.


You mean this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNvf81nN8iM

Not really controversial, it's one decision. These mistakes happen. Unless more stuff like this ocurred in the match, it's not really comparable to the refereeing mistakes favoring Barca that have happened in games against teams such as Chelsea, Arsenal, and Madrid in the CL.

I'll agree that Porto were lucky, but helped?

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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 12, 2012 7:38 pm

Not controversial lol

It knocked Man Utd out.

I love how when its Mourinho its "these mistakes happen" but with Barca its "unclean champions league"

There is no need to compare decisions, that isnt the point. The point is Mourinho cannot talk about decisions leading to title wins when he himself has been the benefit of them himself.

But whatever though, if you want to join Mourinho in the hypocrisy then by all means.

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Post by baresi Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:10 pm

Barca are no hypocrites, far from it actually, they said:
"complaining is for losers", last night they lost the game and basically the title and that makes them losers, so they have all the right to complain. :study:
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Post by Omniscient Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:23 pm

The Franchise wrote:Not controversial lol

It knocked Man Utd out.

I love how when its Mourinho its "these mistakes happen" but with Barca its "unclean champions league"

There is no need to compare decisions, that isnt the point. The point is Mourinho cannot talk about decisions leading to title wins when he himself has been the benefit of them himself.

But whatever though, if you want to join Mourinho in the hypocrisy then by all means.


One isolated incident is nothing, every team has received a fortunate refereeing decision at one point or another. It's when Barcelona receives blatant help from the referees 5-6 years in a row without fail that suspicions arise.

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Post by stunt Sun Feb 12, 2012 8:51 pm

The Franchise wrote:Not controversial lol

It knocked Man Utd out.

I love how when its Mourinho its "these mistakes happen" but with Barca its "unclean champions league"

There is no need to compare decisions, that isnt the point. The point is Mourinho cannot talk about decisions leading to title wins when he himself has been the benefit of them himself.

But whatever though, if you want to join Mourinho in the hypocrisy then by all means.


Are you being serious? He was on-side by half a meter, incredibly hard to see, you cant blame the referee for such a mistake. You know how many of those I could bring up? They happen every match! Everyone is sometimes benefitted and other times a victim.

Mourinho didnt complain because of such a mistake, but rather, multiple much more controversial decisions. The denying of multiple penalties for Chelsea in 2008, the sending of off Thiago Motta vs inter, the red card versus Arsenal, the unbelievable sending off of Pepe.

There's a difference beetween a mistake that happens almost every game (unallowed goals being onside) and sending off key players without reason, or the multiple denial of penalties.




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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:09 pm

So yes, you are going to be a hypocrite.

Multiple pens...only one Chelsea pen was legit if you actually know the handball rule.

Inter won, so the Motta red counted for what? RVP heard the whistle, got a secon yellow, again, by the rules there is nothing to complain about.

Also, Pepe deserved a red and probably could of got sent off twice over.

At the end of the day, every single team has ever won anything has had decisions go there way..EVERY team.

But none of this is important, its not relevant. All that matters is, a ref mistake assisted Mourinho in winning his first CL. Without it, he wouldnt of won.

There is no argument to be had, its a plain fact. So for Mourinho to talk about decisions, he is automatically a hypocrite, no matter the amount of decisions nor the severity of them.
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Post by harhar11 Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:14 pm

stunt wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Not controversial lol

It knocked Man Utd out.

I love how when its Mourinho its "these mistakes happen" but with Barca its "unclean champions league"

There is no need to compare decisions, that isnt the point. The point is Mourinho cannot talk about decisions leading to title wins when he himself has been the benefit of them himself.

But whatever though, if you want to join Mourinho in the hypocrisy then by all means.


Are you being serious? He was on-side by half a meter, incredibly hard to see, you cant blame the referee for such a mistake. You know how many of those I could bring up? They happen every match! Everyone is sometimes benefitted and other times a victim.

Mourinho didnt complain because of such a mistake, but rather, multiple much more controversial decisions. The denying of multiple penalties for Chelsea in 2008, the sending of off Thiago Motta vs inter, the red card versus Arsenal, the unbelievable sending off of Pepe.

There's a difference beetween a mistake that happens almost every game (unallowed goals being onside) and sending off key players without reason, or the multiple denial of penalties.




Funny I dont remember him complaining about the 4 penalties that chelsea didn´t get against his inter
Now that proves that he is a hypocrite, no?

And btw yes motta got wrongly sent off, but don´t forget about the 3 penalties that barca didn´t get or the wrongly disallowed goal against inter , or does getting a player wrongly sent off neutralize? In that case then barca has nothing to feel ashamed about, seeing as Abidals red card was even worse than Mottas. And van persie should have already been sent off while we should have been up 2-0 at the emirates against arsenal and got a penalty in the first half of the 2nd leg. Arsenal has no right to complain seeing as they got more decision in their favour then we did..

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Post by Le Samourai Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:27 pm


Pep being a hypocrite has been proven and I'm happy with that.

BUT

You have successfully altered the topic of this thread.In the future kindly stop using threads as a vehicle to talk about whatever you want.

If needed start a new thread.

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Post by TheBlueArmy Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:58 pm

The Franchise wrote:So yes, you are going to be a hypocrite.

Multiple pens...only one Chelsea pen was legit if you actually know the handball rule.

Inter won, so the Motta red counted for what? RVP heard the whistle, got a secon yellow, again, by the rules there is nothing to complain about.

Also, Pepe deserved a red and probably could of got sent off twice over.

At the end of the day, every single team has ever won anything has had decisions go there way..EVERY team.

But none of this is important, its not relevant. All that matters is, a ref mistake assisted Mourinho in winning his first CL. Without it, he wouldnt of won.

There is no argument to be had, its a plain fact. So for Mourinho to talk about decisions, he is automatically a hypocrite, no matter the amount of decisions nor the severity of them.

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:


Not surprised a barca fan is saying this tbh
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Post by harhar11 Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:09 pm

TheBlueArmy wrote:
The Franchise wrote:So yes, you are going to be a hypocrite.

Multiple pens...only one Chelsea pen was legit if you actually know the handball rule.

Inter won, so the Motta red counted for what? RVP heard the whistle, got a secon yellow, again, by the rules there is nothing to complain about.

Also, Pepe deserved a red and probably could of got sent off twice over.

At the end of the day, every single team has ever won anything has had decisions go there way..EVERY team.

But none of this is important, its not relevant. All that matters is, a ref mistake assisted Mourinho in winning his first CL. Without it, he wouldnt of won.

There is no argument to be had, its a plain fact. So for Mourinho to talk about decisions, he is automatically a hypocrite, no matter the amount of decisions nor the severity of them.

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:


Not surprised a barca fan is saying this tbh

He is right though. You can have your hand as high as you want it and it still doesn´t mean that its a foul. It has to be hand to ball, while piques was ball to hand :/


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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:15 pm

Put a hand over your face all you like its the truth.

And Pep aint no hypocrite, looks at what he actually said and then talk.

He got a yellow in the tunnel? So what, who knows what he said? Anyone?







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Post by Dnmac4 Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:24 pm

I have a question for everyone who brings up the Chelsea game as Barca cheating and getting help from the Ref's.

Why was Barca playing with 10 men? Please answer this. If the ref wanted Barca to win why in the world would he have them play the game a man down? That's probably the biggest disadvantage you can give to the team your helping win.

Does this make any sense at all or is it just easier to pretend it didn't happen?

I mean you people just ignore this over and over again to send off a player with over half the game left at Stamford Bridge and the ref was on our side? IT's just total delusion.
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Post by harhar11 Sun Feb 12, 2012 10:39 pm

dnmac4 wrote:I have a question for everyone who brings up the Chelsea game as Barca cheating and getting help from the Ref's.

Why was Barca playing with 10 men?
Please answer this. If the ref wanted Barca to win why in the world would he have them play the game a man down? That's probably the biggest disadvantage you can give to the team your helping win.

Does this make any sense at all or is it just easier to pretend it didn't happen?

I mean you people just ignore this over and over again to send off a player with over half the game left at Stamford Bridge and the ref was on our side? IT's just total delusion.

They wont answer that :/ But they will still say that the ref favoured barca in the barca - inter game because of a wrongly sent of player while forgetting that barca should have had 3 penalties in that tie. In a way in that tie barca were "chelsea" and inter were "barca", but the difference is that in that particulate game it was much worse to get a player sent off than not getting 4 penalties and that barca got more decision against them vs chelsea then inter got against barca Rolling Eyes

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Post by stunt Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:18 pm

The Franchise wrote:

But none of this is important, its not relevant. All that matters is, a ref mistake assisted Mourinho in winning his first CL. Without it, he wouldnt of won.

He never said a ref mistake didnt assist him. He said that he would be ashamed to win CLs being favored like Barca has been.

Which implies he believes that the refereeing mistakes favoring Barca have been much worse.

He isn't an hypocrite.

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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:21 pm

Yeah sure, okay then. Cower behind technicalities and word play.

Guy is a straight up hypocrite and he knows it, the only people who dont are guys like you I guess. He knows exactly what he is saying, he says it to get into ref's heads and influence them.

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Post by Le Samourai Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:23 pm

Well Pep did the same with the sarcastic "I'm sure he will like that the ref is Portugese comment" so.........you are in fact admitting he's a hypocrite?
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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:26 pm

What on earth are you talking about?

Link, quote, context?
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Post by Highburied Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:26 pm

Mascherano is simply a cünt!

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Post by Le Samourai Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:29 pm

Before the 1st leg of the CL Semi Final

Finally, Pep Guardiola commented on the rumor that there might be a Portuguese referee in the first leg of the semifinals. "If the referee is Portuguese, I’m sure that the Madrid manager will be pretty happy, just like he was in the first leg of last year’s Semi-Final" he concluded

Full Interview http://arxiu.fcbarcelona.cat/web/english/noticies/futbol/temporada10-11/04/23/n110423117062.html
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Post by The Franchise Sun Feb 12, 2012 11:32 pm

And? This is proof or what and how?

You realise, we dont talk about refs is not in the literal sense yes?

"Not talking about refs" is obviously regarding the decisions they make.

I am sure you know this already though.
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