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Post by Valkyrja Sat Dec 24, 2011 1:29 pm

R9, 19-20 years old, with an average barcelona team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iXOMPo7cEI

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Post by The Franchise Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:19 pm

Pre 99 Ronaldo was the best player I have ever seen, bar none.

However, this is a unfair comparison for a few reasons, in fact too many to care to name.

Main one being, the only version of Ronaldo which was on this kind of level was only around for 2-3 seasons before injury put an end to it. His late Inter days, his Madrid days..he was an elite, but not pre 99 or Messi kind of level.

So we supposed to compare 2-3 to an unknown amount of Messi prime years? As soon as you do that, throw out titles won, throw out anything longeivity related.



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Post by The Franchise Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:34 pm

Should add, saying Ronaldo was an average passer is verging on the outragous.

Firstly he was a number 9, of course he isnt going to be playing the final pass as often as Messi. Thats just normal.

But when he did pass, it was anything but average.



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Post by guest7 Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:40 pm

Those nutmeg passes from Ronaldo :bow:

Ronaldo the greatest nutmegger to ever exist :bow:
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Post by Harmonica Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:19 am

omarish wrote:Those nutmeg passes from Ronaldo :bow:

Ronaldo the greatest nutmegger to ever exist :bow:
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:56 am

In my opinion Ronaldo has never hit his prime. Look at his PSV days and his Inter days, even if he was incredibly good, he was improving continuously. Imagine if he wouldn't have all these injuries
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Post by Harmonica Sun Dec 25, 2011 10:54 am

Well Messi is still improving constantly, now that is scary thought.
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Post by billionmillion Sun Dec 25, 2011 12:54 pm

The Franchise wrote:Should add, saying Ronaldo was an average passer is verging on the outragous.

Firstly he was a number 9, of course he isnt going to be playing the final pass as often as Messi. Thats just normal.

But when he did pass, it was anything but average.



So you are saying r9 was better footballer than messi? better than him at everything? or you liked his style more. because what r9 did messi can do. but what messi can do r9 could not do. but i think you are trying to say that r9 was better playmaker than messi
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Post by The Franchise Sun Dec 25, 2011 1:23 pm

billionmillion wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Should add, saying Ronaldo was an average passer is verging on the outragous.

Firstly he was a number 9, of course he isnt going to be playing the final pass as often as Messi. Thats just normal.

But when he did pass, it was anything but average.



So you are saying r9 was better footballer than messi? better than him at everything? or you liked his style more. because what r9 did messi can do. but what messi can do r9 could not do. but i think you are trying to say that r9 was better playmaker than messi

Where did I say all that? lol

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Post by EarlyPrototype Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:09 pm

R9 is the best player I have ever seen and probably ever will see.
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Post by delaurentishotz Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:16 pm

EarlyPrototype wrote:R9 is the best player I have ever seen and probably ever will see.

Same here , The only reason people pick Messi above R9 is because they are to young and never have seen Ronaldo play football.

Ronaldo was a one man team.. The guy just destroyed anyone infront of him.. I have seen Messi being stopped by Inter and Chelsea.. Ronaldo could have the whole team on him and he would still score.. That's the difference

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Post by The Franchise Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:25 pm

No, thats not the only reason someone would pick Messi. Lets not pretend Messi isnt on that kind of level.

If anything, people are forgetting Ronaldo as a player in a positive way for him. Like you.

Messi didnt score vs Inter or Chelsea, but dont act like Ronaldo never had an off game. He did.

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Post by Harmonica Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:31 pm

delaurentishotz wrote:Same here , The only reason people pick Messi above R9 is because they are to young and never have seen Ronaldo play football.
Laughing That's pretty ignorant statement.
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Post by the xcx Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:32 pm

jiopsi wrote:
delaurentishotz wrote:Same here , The only reason people pick Messi above R9 is because they are to young and never have seen Ronaldo play football.
Laughing That's pretty ignorant statement.
and somewhat true Rolling Eyes
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Post by Harmonica Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:35 pm

The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
delaurentishotz wrote:Same here , The only reason people pick Messi above R9 is because they are to young and never have seen Ronaldo play football.
Laughing That's pretty ignorant statement.
and somewhat true Rolling Eyes
Well, actually it's not true at all. Laughing
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Post by billionmillion Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:35 pm

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billionmillion wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Should add, saying Ronaldo was an average passer is verging on the outragous.

Firstly he was a number 9, of course he isnt going to be playing the final pass as often as Messi. Thats just normal.

But when he did pass, it was anything but average.



So you are saying r9 was better footballer than messi? better than him at everything? or you liked his style more. because what r9 did messi can do. but what messi can do r9 could not do. but i think you are trying to say that r9 was better playmaker than messi

Where did I say all that? lol

I dont know you sound like a R9 fanboy Smile before also i have seen your fanboy comments about r9 scratch

dont blame you though i also raised watching r9. But for me batistuta was the reason why i watch football, r9 was close
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Post by billionmillion Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:38 pm

delaurentishotz wrote:
EarlyPrototype wrote:R9 is the best player I have ever seen and probably ever will see.

Same here , The only reason people pick Messi above R9 is because they are to young and never have seen Ronaldo play football.

Ronaldo was a one man team.. The guy just destroyed anyone infront of him.. I have seen Messi being stopped by Inter and Chelsea.. Ronaldo could have the whole team on him and he would still score.. That's the difference

The fact is that he was stopped 7 times in CL. And he won national league only once, this shows that he was stopped almost in all important games :facepalm: Probably you were playing playstation suddenly saw this thread and decided to comment
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Post by the xcx Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:42 pm

jiopsi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
delaurentishotz wrote:Same here , The only reason people pick Messi above R9 is because they are to young and never have seen Ronaldo play football.
Laughing That's pretty ignorant statement.
and somewhat true Rolling Eyes
Well, actually it's not true at all. Laughing
speaking for yourself or behalf of cules here lmao?
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Post by Harmonica Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:46 pm

The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
delaurentishotz wrote:Same here , The only reason people pick Messi above R9 is because they are to young and never have seen Ronaldo play football.
Laughing That's pretty ignorant statement.
and somewhat true Rolling Eyes
Well, actually it's not true at all. Laughing
speaking for yourself or behalf of cules here lmao?
Behalf of the logical reality. Very Happy
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Post by the xcx Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:52 pm

jiopsi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
delaurentishotz wrote:Same here , The only reason people pick Messi above R9 is because they are to young and never have seen Ronaldo play football.
Laughing That's pretty ignorant statement.
and somewhat true Rolling Eyes
Well, actually it's not true at all. Laughing
speaking for yourself or behalf of cules here lmao?
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speaking of logic, you dont make any sense.
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Post by delaurentishotz Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:53 pm

billionmillion wrote:
The fact is that he was stopped 7 times in CL. And he won national league only once, this shows that he was stopped almost in all important games :facepalm: Probably you were playing playstation suddenly saw this thread and decided to comment[/quote]

I have never seen R9 being stopped.... The only thing that stopped R9 was his injury.. He never played on a team like the current Barca (we see how Messi delivers for Argentina) Ronaldo got triple marked by the best defenders of the last 20 years and he still made a fool out of them.. Messi is being marked by Inter/chelsea/.... And he dissapears from the game.

I grew up watching Ronaldo play in PSV.. The people who think Messi is better then R9 grew up in a time when Nsync and Britney spears ruled the charts.



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Post by Harmonica Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:56 pm

The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
The xcx wrote:
jiopsi wrote:
delaurentishotz wrote:Same here , The only reason people pick Messi above R9 is because they are to young and never have seen Ronaldo play football.
Laughing That's pretty ignorant statement.
and somewhat true Rolling Eyes
Well, actually it's not true at all. Laughing
speaking for yourself or behalf of cules here lmao?
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speaking of logic, you dont make any sense.
Speaking of you, I understand that. Laughing
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Post by billionmillion Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:09 pm

delaurentishotz wrote:
billionmillion wrote:
The fact is that he was stopped 7 times in CL. And he won national league only once, this shows that he was stopped almost in all important games :facepalm: Probably you were playing playstation suddenly saw this thread and decided to comment

I have never seen R9 being stopped.... The only thing that stopped R9 was his injury.. He never played on a team like the current Barca (we see how Messi delivers for Argentina) Ronaldo got triple marked by the best defenders of the last 20 years and he still made a fool out of them.. Messi is being marked by Inter/chelsea/.... And he dissapears from the game.

I grew up watching Ronaldo play in PSV.. The people who think Messi is better then R9 grew up in a time when Nsync and Britney spears ruled the charts.



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Post by billionmillion Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:09 pm

delaurentishotz wrote:
billionmillion wrote:
The fact is that he was stopped 7 times in CL. And he won national league only once, this shows that he was stopped almost in all important games :facepalm: Probably you were playing playstation suddenly saw this thread and decided to comment

I have never seen R9 being stopped.... The only thing that stopped R9 was his injury.. He never played on a team like the current Barca (we see how Messi delivers for Argentina) Ronaldo got triple marked by the best defenders of the last 20 years and he still made a fool out of them.. Messi is being marked by Inter/chelsea/.... And he dissapears from the game.

I grew up watching Ronaldo play in PSV.. The people who think Messi is better then R9 grew up in a time when Nsync and Britney spears ruled the charts.



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Post by delaurentishotz Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:17 pm

Yeah sure whatever you say.
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Post by The Franchise Sun Dec 25, 2011 4:40 pm

billionmillion wrote:
The Franchise wrote:
billionmillion wrote:
The Franchise wrote:Should add, saying Ronaldo was an average passer is verging on the outragous.

Firstly he was a number 9, of course he isnt going to be playing the final pass as often as Messi. Thats just normal.

But when he did pass, it was anything but average.



So you are saying r9 was better footballer than messi? better than him at everything? or you liked his style more. because what r9 did messi can do. but what messi can do r9 could not do. but i think you are trying to say that r9 was better playmaker than messi

Where did I say all that? lol

I dont know you sound like a R9 fanboy Smile before also i have seen your fanboy comments about r9 scratch

dont blame you though i also raised watching r9. But for me batistuta was the reason why i watch football, r9 was close

And you sound like a Messi fanboy, trying to downgrade Ronaldo just to make Messi look before (when its not even needed) but it is what it is.

You lose all creditability when you say Ronaldo was an average passer, real talk.

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