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Post by Valkyrja Thu 22 Dec 2011, 22:34

Your opinion?
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Post by eyeopener Thu 22 Dec 2011, 23:13

Tough one, both are awesome. Imposibble to choose. But if i was forced by a gun, i would go with the pre injury Ronaldo.
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Post by Ganso Thu 22 Dec 2011, 23:21

R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
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Post by the xcx Thu 22 Dec 2011, 23:24

Ganso wrote:R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
which makes him the winner.
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Post by billionmillion Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:05

Ganso wrote:R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
Instead he had ZidaneRivaldoFigoRonaldinhoL.EnriqueBeckhamestas

R9 comes close to messi only at scoring
But this thread as always will turn into a nostalgic "who do you like more"


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Post by Pedram Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:07

Inb4 khaled posts Messi's stats.
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Post by Ganso Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:12

billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
Instead he had ZidaneRivaldoFigoRonaldinhoL.EnriqueBeckhamestas

R9 comes close to messi only at scoring
But this thread as always will turn into a nostalgic "who do you like more"
main problem is that those guys are not Xavi and Iniesta
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Post by Valkyrja Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:18

billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
Instead he had ZidaneRivaldoFigoRonaldinhoL.EnriqueBeckhamestas

R9 comes close to messi only at scoring
But this thread as always will turn into a nostalgic "who do you like more"

Messi better at scoring than Ronaldo ? Although you have never seen R9 at Inter ? He was the ultimate player, the one man team. Dribbles and tricks at full speed, brilliant touch, deadly finishing, strenght and precision.

Nesta, 35, owned Messi, 1 month ago. R9 owned players like Nesta, Cannavaro, Maldini or Ayala in their primes.
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Post by billionmillion Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:22

Ganso wrote:
billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
Instead he had ZidaneRivaldoFigoRonaldinhoL.EnriqueBeckhamestas

R9 comes close to messi only at scoring
But this thread as always will turn into a nostalgic "who do you like more"
main problem is that those guys are not Xavi and Iniesta
Those guys are ballon dor winners. proves that r9 was not main player of his teams. you can say he was main striker thats all
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Post by Ganso Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:27

Xavi/Iniesta>any of those guys

Barcelona overall is one of the best if not the best team ever,R9 didnt have that privilege but yet he performed like a god
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Post by billionmillion Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:29

zece wrote:
billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
Instead he had ZidaneRivaldoFigoRonaldinhoL.EnriqueBeckhamestas

R9 comes close to messi only at scoring
But this thread as always will turn into a nostalgic "who do you like more"

Messi better at scoring than Ronaldo ? Although you have never seen R9 at Inter ? He was the ultimate player, the one man team. Dribbles and tricks at full speed, brilliant touch, deadly finishing, strenght and precision.

Nesta, 35, owned Messi, 1 month ago. R9 owned players like Nesta, Cannavaro, Maldini or Ayala in their primes.
Actually after seeing such a childish comment i dont want to reply but how you compare players. Messi owned same cannavaro and juventus backline in 2005, not just cannavaro. and how nesta stopped messi, pulling messi's shirt and getting yellow? or watching how messi dribbles them and assists pedro?

and how owning a player is measurement? even alves ownes some great defenders sometime so what does it mean? i have seen recoba owning nesta and cannavaro, i have seen montella owning maldini, does it mean montella was better player than messi?
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Post by billionmillion Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:32

Ganso wrote:Xavi/Iniesta>any of those guys

Barcelona overall is one of the best if not the best team ever,R9 didnt have that privilege but yet he performed like a god
But in arguments you say iniesta is no where to zidane, now you say they are better than all those combined?
and how r9 performed like a Godd? flopping in big games? and winning 0 CL?
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Post by Ganso Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:39

when did i say iniesta isnt as good as Zidane?and i never said he is better than all of those guys combined

performances dont always win you trophies you know,see messi with Argentina or RVP
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Post by billionmillion Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:44

actually r9 didnt help any club to win any major titles. Major titles that R9 won in his entire club career.

La liga (once)
Uefa Cup (once)

But his fans always repeat this: R9 was game winner, he was one man team, he was winning games by himself...my ass, nobody wins games by himself. stop overrating past. r9 was just part of the best teams in his era


about performance you dont even need to comment. nobody maybe in history was so consistent performer as messi. who performed as the best player 4 years in a row? pls just stop talking about performance :facepalm:
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Post by guest7 Fri 23 Dec 2011, 00:51

billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:Xavi/Iniesta>any of those guys

Barcelona overall is one of the best if not the best team ever,R9 didnt have that privilege but yet he performed like a god
But in arguments you say iniesta is no where to zidane, now you say they are better than all those combined?
and how r9 performed like a Godd? flopping in big games? and winning 0 CL?

What flopping in big games? Do you know he scored 3 goals in a final vs. MANCHESTER UNITED?

how is that a big game flop looooool Laughing
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Post by Albiceleste Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:01

zece wrote:
billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
Instead he had ZidaneRivaldoFigoRonaldinhoL.EnriqueBeckhamestas

R9 comes close to messi only at scoring
But this thread as always will turn into a nostalgic "who do you like more"

Messi better at scoring than Ronaldo ? Although you have never seen R9 at Inter ? He was the ultimate player, the one man team. Dribbles and tricks at full speed, brilliant touch, deadly finishing, strenght and precision.

Nesta, 35, owned Messi, 1 month ago. R9 owned players like Nesta, Cannavaro, Maldini or Ayala in their primes.
You accuse others for not having seen him at Inter, so I assume you must have some crazy recollection for being 3 years old at the time of "watching him" Laughing


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Post by Harmonica Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:02

This Messi is better than R9 ever was.
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Post by Pedram Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:07

I don't know who's better but for me watching Ronaldo was so entertaining.
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Post by Albiceleste Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:09

messi


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Post by Pedram Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:14

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billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
Instead he had ZidaneRivaldoFigoRonaldinhoL.EnriqueBeckhamestas

R9 comes close to messi only at scoring
But this thread as always will turn into a nostalgic "who do you like more"
R9 doesn't touch Messi in scoring, Messi scored nearly as many goals in one season than R9's entire time at Inter (5 seasons)

But scoring does not make anyone a better player.
CR is currently ahead of Messi in goalscoring, does it make him a better player ?
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Post by Harmonica Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:14

omarish wrote:
billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:Xavi/Iniesta>any of those guys

Barcelona overall is one of the best if not the best team ever,R9 didnt have that privilege but yet he performed like a god
But in arguments you say iniesta is no where to zidane, now you say they are better than all those combined?
and how r9 performed like a Godd? flopping in big games? and winning 0 CL?

What flopping in big games? Do you know he scored 3 goals in a final vs. MANCHESTER UNITED?

how is that a big game flop looooool Laughing
Tbh Messi is still better than Ronaldo against big teams:

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(G+A)/Game

Messi 1.00
R9 0.67
Henry 0.66
Ronaldinho 0.65
Drogba 0.63
Eto'o 0.53
Villa 0.51
Shevchenko 0.49
Aguero 0.47
Cronaldo 0.46
Rooney 0.45
Van Nistelrooy 0.45
Torres 0.42
Van Persie 0.40
Zlatan 0.36


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Post by Harmonica Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:15

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billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:R9 was as good as messi,but didnt have Xaviesta
Instead he had ZidaneRivaldoFigoRonaldinhoL.EnriqueBeckhamestas

R9 comes close to messi only at scoring
But this thread as always will turn into a nostalgic "who do you like more"
R9 doesn't touch Messi in scoring, Messi scored nearly as many goals in one season than R9's entire time at Inter (5 seasons)

But scoring does not make anyone a better player.
CR is currently ahead of Messi in goalscoring, does it make him a better player ?
No he isn't lol.
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Post by the xcx Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:17

Messiah better than R9? no comment Laughing
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Post by billionmillion Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:19

omarish wrote:
billionmillion wrote:
Ganso wrote:Xavi/Iniesta>any of those guys

Barcelona overall is one of the best if not the best team ever,R9 didnt have that privilege but yet he performed like a god
But in arguments you say iniesta is no where to zidane, now you say they are better than all those combined?
and how r9 performed like a Godd? flopping in big games? and winning 0 CL?

What flopping in big games? Do you know he scored 3 goals in a final vs. MANCHESTER UNITED?

how is that a big game flop looooool Laughing
1 game doesnt change the fact that he flopped in 6-7 CL seasons in important games. once i made a list all of those games, but it was in old forums so its gone. If messi failed to win a CL in his career people would bash him. but messi shines in 90% big games. his last seasons goals in CL semi-final and in final was an individual game winning goals, also in final he created villa's goal and was the main reason pedro got space for the first goal. this is how a player wins games
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Post by billionmillion Fri 23 Dec 2011, 01:29

and see where messi is playing in jiopsi's sig. he can be midfielder, striker and winger. and you compare him with a striker. time to admit that you liked r9's style and you love him more. and the thread title should be who do you like more or with whom you want to sleep
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