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Post by Juventino89 Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:12 pm

I think that giach should be a starter over pepe because he works as hard as pepe and can mean something for us offensively. I also think that vucinic is great but lazy. Esti is creative too and works really hard plus he is 3 years older than Esti. I also think that if we use esti and giach over vucinic and pepe we can bring much more speed in our game. I've got to see a bit more of elia but if he keeps playing like he did in extra time and improves he might get into the first 11. He definitly showed skill against Bologna.

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Post by Luca Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:14 pm

Nice, functional but I would love to see:

Vucinic-Matri-Elia

Creativity, speed, magic, finishing.

Vucinic is a magical player, just fantastic, when he is not wasted out wide you can really see what he can do, he needs to float off the wing, drifting in and out, pulling defenders with him and drawing fouls.

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Post by Juventino89 Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:25 pm

I really like vucinci but he needs to work harder than no one can play he out the first 11 but if he keeps playing like this(lazy and from what I see with out motivation) i think other players deserve a shot to prove them selves and about elia i think you're right i wanted to pit him in my first 11 but i thought it was kinda early:)
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:26 pm

Quagliarella - Matri - Elia
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Post by Luca Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:27 pm

I don't think Mirko is ever going to a player that wows you with his work rate but his ability is undeniable and he remains Juventus' most dynamic attacker, he can do it all essentially. If Mirko is fit, Mirko plays!

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Post by Luca Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:27 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Quagliarella - Matri - Elia

would also love to see this or Vucinic-Quagliarella-Elia :bow:

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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:29 pm

Matri over Quagliarella in the Prima Punta role. Matri can't be touched there if you ask me.

Quagliarella is superior to Vucinic. Vucninc hasn't scored since September in that role and I think Quagliarella would be able to create and score more goals than him.

Elia, does the role Vucinic, does in my opinion could do better.
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Post by Juventino89 Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:30 pm

I will never forget what quag did for us last season so if he gets in form i think he should start every game. Forza quag one of my favo players of juve
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Post by Luca Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:31 pm

Vucinic brings more assists and he scored against Inter which is more recent.
But Vucinic must be more clinical in front of goal, I definitely agree, it just isn't the only way I judge players.

Quagliarella is one of my favourite players, currently he would be number 2 behind only Alex! I hope he gets more minutes, yesterday he was really looking like the Fabio of old, just needs to find his touch in front of goal.

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Post by Juventino89 Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:34 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Matri over Quagliarella in the Prima Punta role. Matri can't be touched there if you ask me.

Quagliarella is superior to Vucinic. Vucninc hasn't scored since September in that role and I think Quagliarella would be able to create and score more goals than him.

Elia, does the role Vucinic, does in my opinion could do better.

+ 1 agree with you that quag is better than vucinic
And dont you think that if everybody keeps thi form we will have amazing dept even good enough for europe. Maybe one real champ needs to be bought.Smile
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:36 pm

Luca wrote:Vucinic brings more assists and he scored against Inter which is more recent.
But Vucinic must be more clinical in front of goal, I definitely agree, it just isn't the only way I judge players.

Quagliarella is one of my favourite players, currently he would be number 2 behind only Alex! I hope he gets more minutes, yesterday he was really looking like the Fabio of old, just needs to find his touch in front of goal.

That's my problem though, relying on Vucninc for assists is ridiculous. I'd go with Elia, Del Piero or Giovinco in that role.
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Post by DeviAngel Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:37 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Matri over Quagliarella in the Prima Punta role. Matri can't be touched there if you ask me.

Quagliarella is superior to Vucinic. Vucninc hasn't scored since September in that role and I think Quagliarella would be able to create and score more goals than him.

Elia, does the role Vucinic, does in my opinion could do better.

Vucinic's role is not to score its his role to pull ppl on him make plays and passes

Quagli sucked on LW yesterday so big NO
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:37 pm

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Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Matri over Quagliarella in the Prima Punta role. Matri can't be touched there if you ask me.

Quagliarella is superior to Vucinic. Vucninc hasn't scored since September in that role and I think Quagliarella would be able to create and score more goals than him.

Elia, does the role Vucinic, does in my opinion could do better.

+ 1 agree with you that quag is better than vucinic
And dont you think that if everybody keeps thi form we will have amazing dept even good enough for europe. Maybe one real champ needs to be bought.Smile

Actually a champion must be bought in place of Del Piero
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Post by Juventino89 Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:38 pm

Yup jovotic maybe ?? I know he is not a real champ but he has amazing potential
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Post by Luca Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:38 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
Luca wrote:Vucinic brings more assists and he scored against Inter which is more recent.
But Vucinic must be more clinical in front of goal, I definitely agree, it just isn't the only way I judge players.

Quagliarella is one of my favourite players, currently he would be number 2 behind only Alex! I hope he gets more minutes, yesterday he was really looking like the Fabio of old, just needs to find his touch in front of goal.

That's my problem though, relying on Vucninc for assists is ridiculous. I'd go with Elia, Del Piero or Giovinco in that role.

Sure, just drop Pepe and you can have all 3

Vucinic-Matri-Elia

Quagliarella-Matri-Elia

Estigarribia-Matri-Elia

whatever, less Pepe = more creativity (here comes the neg rep :study: )

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Post by Juventino89 Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:40 pm

I know pepe is bettet than last year but he still doesnt bring enough creativity
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Post by The_ItalianFool Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:47 pm

I honestly dont like the idea of Quag on the wing.

We need to have balance, and at the moment I think the most effective combo is one of Pepe/Giac/Esti on one side and Vucinic/Elia/Krasic on the other. (I'm talkin about if we use a 4-3-3 next game) with Matri in the middle.
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Post by The_ItalianFool Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:48 pm

I like the OP's original formation a lot as well, looks solid.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:50 pm

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Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Matri over Quagliarella in the Prima Punta role. Matri can't be touched there if you ask me.

Quagliarella is superior to Vucinic. Vucninc hasn't scored since September in that role and I think Quagliarella would be able to create and score more goals than him.

Elia, does the role Vucinic, does in my opinion could do better.

Vucinic's role is not to score its his role to pull ppl on him make plays and passes

Quagli sucked on LW yesterday so big NO

What game were you watching lol?
Quag was used as a Prima Punta then a Seconda Punta, he was never in the left.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:52 pm

The best solution is

Pirlo-Vidal
Marchisio
Krasic - Matri/Quag - Giovinco(Elia)
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Post by Juventino89 Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:55 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:The best solution is

Pirlo-Vidal
Marchisio
Krasic - Matri/Quag - Giovinco(Elia)

Why krasic? He has been horrible for almost a year now. Dont get me wrong i love his juve heart and how he played in the first 2 monts but when is he going to regain form?
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Post by DeviAngel Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:56 pm

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Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Matri over Quagliarella in the Prima Punta role. Matri can't be touched there if you ask me.

Quagliarella is superior to Vucinic. Vucninc hasn't scored since September in that role and I think Quagliarella would be able to create and score more goals than him.

Elia, does the role Vucinic, does in my opinion could do better.

Vucinic's role is not to score its his role to pull ppl on him make plays and passes

Quagli sucked on LW yesterday so big NO

What game were you watching lol?
Quag was used as a Prima Punta then a Seconda Punta, he was never in the left.

the gam that was on tv and I wasn't blinded by the hate u watched

it was Del Piero as prima punta lmao even the commentator said it and on the screen on the tv
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:02 pm

You didn't read lol?

Quag was a Prima Punta,

'then a Seconda Punta'

He shifted.

Del Piero became the ideal Prima Punta when Quag came off and Esti and Elia supported him.

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Post by DeviAngel Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:06 pm

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:You didn't read lol?

Quag was a Prima Punta,

'then a Seconda Punta'

He shifted.

Del Piero became the ideal Prima Punta when Quag came off and Esti and Elia supported him.


at the last 5-10 mins yes but Quagli can not do what Vucinic can do and offer Quagli is sub for Matri simple
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Post by The_ItalianFool Fri Dec 09, 2011 8:24 pm

DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:You didn't read lol?

Quag was a Prima Punta,

'then a Seconda Punta'

He shifted.

Del Piero became the ideal Prima Punta when Quag came off and Esti and Elia supported him.


at the last 5-10 mins yes but Quagli can not do what Vucinic can do and offer Quagli is sub for Matri simple

I 100% agree.
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