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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:58 am

You all fail to realize that Giovinco has tremendous ball control, meaning he's able to stand off most of his markers regardless of his height and retaining the ball. As for him winning the ball back, he atleast tracks back in comparison to Vucinic with his laziness.

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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:17 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:You all fail to realize that Giovinco has tremendous ball control, meaning he's able to stand off most of his markers regardless of his height and retaining the ball. As for him winning the ball back, he atleast tracks back in comparison to Vucinic with his laziness.


and u fail to realize what we are saying :/
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Post by Lynx100 Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:26 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:You all fail to realize that Giovinco has tremendous ball control, meaning he's able to stand off most of his markers regardless of his height and retaining the ball. As for him winning the ball back, he atleast tracks back in comparison to Vucinic with his laziness.

Amen. Well put.
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:30 am

DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:You all fail to realize that Giovinco has tremendous ball control, meaning he's able to stand off most of his markers regardless of his height and retaining the ball. As for him winning the ball back, he atleast tracks back in comparison to Vucinic with his laziness.


and u fail to realize what we are saying :/

Actually no, because I already responded to what you said and Pingino lol...

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Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:You all fail to realize that Giovinco has tremendous ball control, meaning he's able to stand off most of his markers regardless of his height and retaining the ball. As for him winning the ball back, he atleast tracks back in comparison to Vucinic with his laziness.

Amen. Well put.

Grazie
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Post by Cotes Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:39 am

From what I seen....
We have all good players...
We can't go wrong with who start or come on?
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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:40 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
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Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:You all fail to realize that Giovinco has tremendous ball control, meaning he's able to stand off most of his markers regardless of his height and retaining the ball. As for him winning the ball back, he atleast tracks back in comparison to Vucinic with his laziness.


and u fail to realize what we are saying :/

Actually no, because I already responded to what you said and Pingino lol...

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Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:You all fail to realize that Giovinco has tremendous ball control, meaning he's able to stand off most of his markers regardless of his height and retaining the ball. As for him winning the ball back, he atleast tracks back in comparison to Vucinic with his laziness.

Amen. Well put.

Grazie

no u said Gio has ball control ....we are not doubting that we were speaking about something else ..and yet u failed to realize 2nd time what LOL
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:48 am

Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.
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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:52 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.


Ball Control =\ Strength


We saw what Chiellini can do to him and Barzagli in the Juve - Roma game he didn't move ..sorry a Chiellini,Vidic type is 'death' for Gio ..he doesn't have the strength for LW .. For ss he is good
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:54 am

DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.


Ball Control =\ Strength


We saw what Chiellini can do to him and Barzagli in the Juve - Roma game he didn't move ..sorry a Chiellini,Vidic type is 'death' for Gio ..he doesn't have the strength for LW .. For ss he is good

And yet he has 7 goals?
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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 10, 2011 2:55 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.


Ball Control =\ Strength


We saw what Chiellini can do to him and Barzagli in the Juve - Roma game he didn't move ..sorry a Chiellini,Vidic type is 'death' for Gio ..he doesn't have the strength for LW .. For ss he is good

And yet he has 7 goals?

against who ?? Serie A average teams ?

ffs cut it out he is not what u make him on LW he is big epic fail in Conte's system. Amauri had 7 goals last season ...
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:00 am

lol? He plays on a Serie A average team, he hardly gets support in fact he's the player Parma depend on, he's their best player. Him playing like this scoring many goals without support is very impressive, imagine him at Juve.

What about Giach, comparing their ratios now, Giovinco has a higher chance of scoring per game, and yet Giach plays in Juve with a squad unbeaten and tremendous support for him, unlike Giovinco.

Yes Amauri had 7 goals last season, mostly because of Giovinco
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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:03 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:lol? He plays on a Serie A average team, he hardly gets support in fact he's the player Parma depend on, he's their best player. Him playing like this scoring many goals without support is very impressive, imagine him at Juve.

What about Giach, comparing their ratios now, Giovinco has a higher chance of scoring per game, and yet Giach plays in Juve with a squad unbeaten and tremendous support for him, unlike Giovinco.

Yes Amauri had 7 goals last season, mostly because of Giovinco

never mind he had 7 goals not giovinco ....

WE SPEAK ABOUT STRENGTH NOT GOALS AND ABBILITY and for the record Giach has great tech ....

but nvm this is pointless u r just changing the topic and twisting it .... but again nvm ...not worth the time
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:05 am

Actually Amauri had 11 goals, my mistake.

The reason for his goals is because he does not have strengh problems.
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Post by Luca Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:05 am

Amauri had 7 goals in 11 appearances I believe

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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:06 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Actually Amauri had 11 goals, my mistake.

The reason for his goals is because he does not have strengh problems.

good Smile



and he had 7

2011 → Parma (loan) 11 (7)


that shows that he is not suited for our tactics but he is great ST still for me
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:08 am

Ah, I messed up the apperans and goals ffs, but I had it right the first time then
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Post by Luca Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:09 am

DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Actually Amauri had 11 goals, my mistake.

The reason for his goals is because he does not have strengh problems.

good Smile



and he had 7

2011 → Parma (loan) 11 (7)


that shows that he is not suited for our tactics but he is great ST still for me

for me too, but he acted like a butthole this summer hmm

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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:09 am

He's going to PSG
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Post by Lynx100 Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:10 am

DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.


Ball Control =\ Strength


We saw what Chiellini can do to him and Barzagli in the Juve - Roma game he didn't move ..sorry a Chiellini,Vidic type is 'death' for Gio ..he doesn't have the strength for LW .. For ss he is good

And yet he has 7 goals?

against who ?? Serie A average teams ?

ffs cut it out he is not what u make him on LW he is big epic fail in Conte's system. Amauri had 7 goals last season ...

Agree with CSS here. Giovinco would be a blessing in the current Juve team. I would pick him over Vucinic. Hes making a name for himself in a struggling Parma side. That takes some degree of talent. He will shine if he comes to Juve I think.
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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:11 am

Lynx100 wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.


Ball Control =\ Strength


We saw what Chiellini can do to him and Barzagli in the Juve - Roma game he didn't move ..sorry a Chiellini,Vidic type is 'death' for Gio ..he doesn't have the strength for LW .. For ss he is good

And yet he has 7 goals?

against who ?? Serie A average teams ?

ffs cut it out he is not what u make him on LW he is big epic fail in Conte's system. Amauri had 7 goals last season ...

Agree with CSS here. Giovinco would be a blessing in the current Juve team. I would pick him over Vucinic. Hes making a name for himself in a struggling Parma side. That takes some degree of talent. He will shine if he comes to Juve I think.

In SS role yes in LWST hell no
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:13 am

DeviAngel wrote:
Lynx100 wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.


Ball Control =\ Strength


We saw what Chiellini can do to him and Barzagli in the Juve - Roma game he didn't move ..sorry a Chiellini,Vidic type is 'death' for Gio ..he doesn't have the strength for LW .. For ss he is good

And yet he has 7 goals?

against who ?? Serie A average teams ?

ffs cut it out he is not what u make him on LW he is big epic fail in Conte's system. Amauri had 7 goals last season ...

Agree with CSS here. Giovinco would be a blessing in the current Juve team. I would pick him over Vucinic. Hes making a name for himself in a struggling Parma side. That takes some degree of talent. He will shine if he comes to Juve I think.

In SS role yes in LWST hell no

Devi, but how? If Giach can do it, Giovinco can and better...
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Post by DeviAngel Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:15 am

Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Lynx100 wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.


Ball Control =\ Strength


We saw what Chiellini can do to him and Barzagli in the Juve - Roma game he didn't move ..sorry a Chiellini,Vidic type is 'death' for Gio ..he doesn't have the strength for LW .. For ss he is good

And yet he has 7 goals?

against who ?? Serie A average teams ?

ffs cut it out he is not what u make him on LW he is big epic fail in Conte's system. Amauri had 7 goals last season ...

Agree with CSS here. Giovinco would be a blessing in the current Juve team. I would pick him over Vucinic. Hes making a name for himself in a struggling Parma side. That takes some degree of talent. He will shine if he comes to Juve I think.

In SS role yes in LWST hell no

Devi, but how? If Giach can do it, Giovinco can and better...

go back bro few pages me and il penguino said why we think that way

and good night fellas
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Post by Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:19 am

And I explained why He can lol...
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Post by Lynx100 Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:19 am

DeviAngel wrote:
Lynx100 wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:
DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.


Ball Control =\ Strength


We saw what Chiellini can do to him and Barzagli in the Juve - Roma game he didn't move ..sorry a Chiellini,Vidic type is 'death' for Gio ..he doesn't have the strength for LW .. For ss he is good

And yet he has 7 goals?

against who ?? Serie A average teams ?

ffs cut it out he is not what u make him on LW he is big epic fail in Conte's system. Amauri had 7 goals last season ...

Agree with CSS here. Giovinco would be a blessing in the current Juve team. I would pick him over Vucinic. Hes making a name for himself in a struggling Parma side. That takes some degree of talent. He will shine if he comes to Juve I think.

In SS role yes in LWST hell no

OK. Agree to disagree. Afro
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Post by Il Pinguino Sat Dec 10, 2011 7:26 am

DeviAngel wrote:
Camurrìa.Sto.Stronzo wrote:Sorry Devi, but you don't realize it, because I was using that post in reference to page 2 and Luca's. I didn't reference how much you guys weight personally and how it effects you guys.

The issue with Giovinco's ball control is in reference to his strenght, he's capable of withstanding most of his opposition without loosing the ball due to his physic.


Ball Control =\ Strength


We saw what Chiellini can do to him and Barzagli in the Juve - Roma game he didn't move ..sorry a Chiellini,Vidic type is 'death' for Gio ..he doesn't have the strength for LW .. For ss he is good

This! I Agree. I feel like Gio would be eaten up on the left against better teams or if he is double marked. But as ss he is a bit harder to mark. Let's keep in mind he plays ss for Parma this season, not on the left. His consistent scoring started in that role this year.
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Post by inderbaby Sat Dec 10, 2011 10:19 am

Luca wrote:Nice, functional but I would love to see:

Vucinic-Matri-Elia

Creativity, speed, magic, finishing.

Vucinic is a magical player, just fantastic, when he is not wasted out wide you can really see what he can do, he needs to float off the wing, drifting in and out, pulling defenders with him and drawing fouls.

Nailed it about Vucinic! +1 :shisha:

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