a 4-4-2 formation

i, like many of you, do not like gasps 3-4-3 formation at all. although our possession is up, we can't seem to do much on attack and our backline gets exposed rather easily. i wonder if gasp should try a 4-4-2, something similar to:






it would require a lot of work from sneijder, forlan, and alvarez but it just seems like it would be more organized than what i've seen recently, especially in the back.

oh god no

hey facepalm me all you want, i'd still rather have a 4-4-2 than a 3-4-3. or even a 4-3-3 at that, i can't stand a 3 backline

Make it a 4 4 1 1 with Forlan behind Pazzo and Obi taking on the wing and it doesn't look that bad.

sneijder-cambiasso would get a train run on them

nor should he be, tbf

Sneijder-Zanetti-Cambiasso would also get a train run on them

not nearly enough bite in such a midfield

That formation isnt a 4-4-2.

With those players its actually a 4-2-4... Sneijder will never become a CDM anyways.

VibeTribe wrote:MIDFIELD THAT WON US THE TREBLE

Y U NO BITE

Midfield that won us the treble? Aside from the CL Final, all our knockout games were played with Cambiasso, Sneijder, and Motta in midfield....not Zanetti

Motta is clearly a more physical midfielder than Zanetti, (or gives the midfield more bite, if you will)

Also that was 2 years ago...Zanetti and Cambiasso are both two years older

VibeTribe wrote:Not what I was talking about,anyway I don't see how Motta gives more bite than Zanetti...What do you mean by bite anyway? We should sign Luis Suarez,I heard he gives great bites.

lulz aside....none of those players are aggressive defensively, none are especially proficient tacklers, none are physical or very strong players etc

If your Barca and you have 75% possession you can get away with that kind of stuff...most other teams can't


I'm not saying we should play with 3 DMs like Milan, but we need at least one player to be the muscle of the midfield..

Seeing as how we just sent Mariga on loan for some reason, I think its got to be Motta as things stand right now...maybe Joel Obi

We don't have enough physical midfielders atm, in my opinion

Kucka in helps, but Mariga out baffles me....they are basically the same type of player

Other than City and Chelsea it's Inter and Milan who rely on physical midfielders. We should start relying on technique and speed as the rest of the teams do. Our midfielders would score much more than now, and would fit Gasp's game perfectly.

InterMalia wrote:Other than City and Chelsea it's Inter and Milan who rely on physical midfielders. We should start relying on technique and speed as the rest of the teams do. Our midfielders would score much more than now, and would fit Gasp's game perfectly.

Cambiasso and Motta aren't fast nor do they have an eye for goal.

If our team wasnt cheap as *bleep* and splashed some 10 mil (Valencia wanted 9m) and got Banega, then we can talk about a different type of midfield. But until then we'll stick with our garbage midfield.

I meant if the team wanted to play the type of football Gaps wants, then Motta/Cuchu aint the guys for it. New players needed. Banega would've been awesomely fit for it.

Motta fits gasps style...Not sure about Cambiasso yet, have to see him in action more

Motta's a hard tackler, plays simple passes side to side, makes good late runs into the box, has decent positioning

his only problem is that he's a hothead with a penchant for rash decisions

I think Cambiasso plays much better as a lone DM than in a pair, but we'll see

------------Forlan----Pazzini--------------
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----------------Sneijder------------------
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------Alvarez---Cambiasso----Zanetti------
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--Nagatomo--Samuel----Lucio-----Maicon---


to me that looks great, playing to our strengths. it might be unrealistic to have both poli and alvarez in midfield so i put in zanetti but i also like this

------------Forlan----Pazzini--------------
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----------------Sneijder------------------
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------Alvarez---Cambiasso----Poli--------
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--Zanetti--Samuel----Lucio-----Maicon---

with this formation we have decent subs all over the pitch

-alvarez and poli can be subbed with motta, deki, zanetti obi etc etc. ok we may not have a super wc midfielder atm but we do have many decent options still
-forlan and pazzini have milito and castagnois waiting
-sneijder has alvarez, deki and coutinho (not ideal subs but whatever)
-lb and rb have santon, nagatomo and jonathon, even chivu too


... but we'll stick with 3 defenders

manchester uniteds formation today:



granted, we don't have young and nani on the wings, but sneijder and cambiasso>anderson and cleverly. they played outstanding today, their play was so fluid and dynamic. i understand we aren't united, nor do we have the manager or some of the WC players. but we definitely could take some notes from them.

the problem is more than we don't have a nani or young, we don't have any wingers at all haha. playing a formation with wingers or wide forwards is just plain weird imo. it was different when we had eto

also arsenal were very weakened and had no confidence

andiii wrote:the problem is more than we don't have a nani or young, we don't have any wingers at all haha. playing a formation with wingers or wide forwards is just plain weird imo. it was different when we had eto

also arsenal were very weakened and had no confidence

i know, but alvarez and coutihno could play on the wings. or zarate if we got him.

------------Forlan----Pazzini--------------
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----------------Sneijder------------------
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------Alvarez---Cambiasso----Zanetti------
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--Nagatomo--Samuel----Lucio-----Maicon---

i like this idea, mainly because theres a 4 man backline. i might sub maicon for jonathan because of his surgery. but one things for sure, we wont get very far with a 3-4-3

i'd understand if one of coutiho or alvarez are wingers, but neither are, they're both central players who have similar positions

but yea you're right about zarate, he would change things though for sure and give us a winger option

Coutinho looks much better on the wing than he does as AM imo. He is too weak/inexperienced to play with the goal behind him.

InterMalia wrote:Coutinho looks much better on the wing than he does as AM imo. He is too weak/inexperienced to play with the goal behind him.

Yes for the time being you are completely correct. He gets bossed wayyyy too easily in the middle.