Can England be like Spain?

It's no secret that Spain uses Barcelona ands Cruyffs philosophy and most of the starting 11 are from Barcelona. Do you reckon england could emulate that in the near future with Manchester United?

.........................Hart........................
....Smalling......Jones......Cahill....Cole?....
...............Cleverley......Parker.............
Walcott?................................Young......
....................Rooney..........................
...................Welbeck..........................

Might aswell put Smalling in there too...

It would help teamplay tremendously. Seriously, I hope Argentina would be able to do this, but sadly every good player is scattered over Europe.

Maybe when that one club could produce one of the greatest teams of all time like Barca not when most of those are hyped up unproven players

Spain uses Aragones philosophy.

ynwa wrote:Might aswell put Smalling in there too...

Smalling is there at RB.

Seppuku wrote:Spain uses Aragones philosophy.

sure they do...with the pressing high up the field and the creating space and the lack of individualism...

Spain is a direct product of the work Aragones put. Full stop. What was Spain before Euro 2008?

Crediting Cryuff with Spain's success is the most retarded thing i've ever heard.

Seppuku wrote:Spain is a direct product of the work Aragones put. Full stop. What was Spain before Euro 2008?

Crediting Cryuff with Spain's success is the most retarded thing i've ever heard.

Back on topic, fine let's agree to disagree...

jiopsi wrote:It would help teamplay tremendously. Seriously, I hope Argentina would be able to do this, but sadly every good player is scattered over Europe.

Yea, has there evr been a team that has fielded most of their starting eleven fdrom 1 club and yielded success ala spain. I can only think of ajax of the 70s???

Bayern and German national team in 1970's

I dont think they can,It requires some fukintastic ball playing players to play it.

I dont rate any of those english player no where near current barca or spanish players.

Adit wrote:I dont think they can,It requires some fukintastic ball playing players to play it.

I dont rate any of those english player no where near current barca or spanish players.

Never said that England could play like spain, asking wheteher england have most of its teams from one club.

BeautifulGame wrote:Bayern and German national team in 1970's

Good shout!

jibers wrote:

Adit wrote:I dont think they can,It requires some fukintastic ball playing players to play it.

I dont rate any of those english player no where near current barca or spanish players.

Never said that England could play like spain, asking wheteher england have most of its teams from one club.

well i misunderstood your point,

Yeah,There is a big chance for a Manchester united players dominating English national team in the future.CB department is already reserved for utd players.Young could make that left wing role his own and Rooney as SS.But england can definitely have a better ball playing Right back than smalling,and wilshire could take cleverleys place as there is no guarantee cleverley will be better than him.Also Flopy carrol could start ahead of welbeck as well,hence maximum 4 players from manu.Not a big deal.

jibers wrote:

Adit wrote:I dont think they can,It requires some fukintastic ball playing players to play it.

I dont rate any of those english player no where near current barca or spanish players.

Never said that England could play like spain, asking wheteher england have most of its teams from one club.

well i misunderstood your point,

Yeah,There is a big chance for a Manchester united players dominating English national team in the future.CB department is already reserved for utd players.Young could make that left wing role his own and Rooney as SS.But england can definitely have a better ball playing Right back than smalling,and wilshire could take cleverleys place as there is no guarantee cleverley will be better than him.Also Flopy carrol could start ahead of welbeck as well,hence maximum 4 players from manu.Not a big deal.

Adit wrote:

jibers wrote:

Adit wrote:I dont think they can,It requires some fukintastic ball playing players to play it.

I dont rate any of those english player no where near current barca or spanish players.

Never said that England could play like spain, asking wheteher england have most of its teams from one club.

well i misunderstood your point,

Yeah,There is a big chance for a Manchester united players dominating English national team in the future.CB department is already reserved for utd players.Young could make that left wing role his own and Rooney as SS.But england can definitely have a better ball playing Right back than smalling,and wilshire could take cleverleys place as there is no guarantee cleverley will be better than him.Also Flopy carrol could start ahead of welbeck as well,hence maximum 4 players from manu.Not a big deal.

Wilshere would take Parkers spot if anything....Parker has no future with this team aside from this upcoming tournament and that is a maybe in itself

Even the current German team fields up to 8 players from Bayern.

rwo power wrote:Even the current German team fields up to 8 players from Bayern.

Haven't watched a full German game since the WC what's germany's usual starting line up and can you highlight the bayern players in red (if you can be bothered)

Neuer

Boeteng Badstuber Hummels Lahm

Schweinsteiger Bender/ Khedhira / Kroos

Muller Ozil Podolski

Gomez / Klose

Highlighted the non bayern players in red.

Germany often plays like this (optional players in parenthesis)

Neuer
Höwedes, Badstuber, Boateng, Lahm
Khedira(Kroos), Schweinsteiger,
Müller, Özil, Podolski(Schürrle)
Gomez(Klose)

Bayern players are in red.

BeautifulGame wrote:Neuer

Boeteng Badstuber Hummels Lahm

Schweinsteiger Bender / Kroos

Muller Ozil Podolski

Gomez

Highlighted the non bayern players in red.

dude khedira is the starter not bender or kroos

Adit wrote:

BeautifulGame wrote:Neuer

Boeteng Badstuber Hummels Lahm

Schweinsteiger Bender / Kroos

Muller Ozil Podolski

Gomez

Highlighted the non bayern players in red.

dude khedira is the starter not bender or kroos

Yep forget Khedira edited.

BeautifulGame wrote:Neuer

Boeteng Badstuber Hummels Lahm

Schweinsteiger Bender/ Khedhira / Kroos

Muller Ozil Podolski

Gomez / Klose

Highlighted the non bayern players in red.

Hummels? Kroos is probably going to be starting ahead of khidera, no?

rwo power wrote:Germany often plays like this (optional players in parenthesis)

Neuer
Höwedes, Badstuber, Boateng, Lahm
Khedira(Kroos), Schweinsteiger,
Müller, Özil, Podolski(Schürrle)
Gomez(Klose)

Bayern players are in red.

It's no surprise how fluid Germany is really. Most of these players play at the same club. Hopefully all the other big teams can do this (apart from Holland).

Well, at the moment Kroos is ruled out as he suffers from the flu, so Khedira is more likely to play. Although one of the Benders could take the position, too (maybe as sub).

It's no surprise how fluid Germany is really. Most of these players play at the same club. Hopefully all the other big teams can do this (apart from Holland).

Well, another plus point is when Höwedes plays - he and Neuer played for years together at Schalke, so they understand each other blindly, too. And don't forget that Klose and Podolski formerly played at Bayern, too.