FIFA will not let England wear poppies v Spain

Surprised about this.
Pretty much all of the Premier League teams have a poppy on their shirt for Rememberance Day

I can see why they haven't allowed it. Probably easier just to have a blanket ban on all political symbols rather than allow controversy in the future on something more contentious than the poppy.

I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.

What's a poppy?

BarrileteCosmico wrote:What's a poppy?

It's a flower. British people wear a plastic one on their clothing on Rememberance Day to respect the soldiers that fought for us in WW1. They cost £1 and all money goes to a charity.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:What's a poppy?

In the UK around the 11th November, Armistice Day of WW1, we wear poppies to remember those who have given their lives in war.


I don't think this is anything against the poppies themselves, they have okayed the one minute silence before the game. Just a case of not setting a precedence.

aford92 wrote:I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.

THIS^

Anything to remember the people who fought in WW2 should never be questioned. There would be no EPL or French head of Fifa unless maybe he was Vichy but still probably not. England should be able to wear a giant Poppy on there shirt if they want as they saved all of Europe from being ruled by a total mad man, with the help of the United States of course and for a Frenchman to uphold the ban is just disgusting.

dnmac4 wrote:

aford92 wrote:I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.

THIS^

Anything to remember the people who fought in WW2 should never be questioned. There would be no EPL or French head of Fifa unless maybe he was Vichy but still probably not. England should be able to wear a giant Poppy on there shirt if they want as they saved all of Europe from being ruled by a total mad man, with the help of the United States of course and for a Frenchman to uphold the ban is just disgusting.

It's not even just WW2, it's for every war since WW1.

aford92 wrote:I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.

Blatter is swiss

Your arrogance is astounding

dnmac4 wrote:

aford92 wrote:I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.

THIS^

Anything to remember the people who fought in WW2 should never be questioned. There would be no EPL or French head of Fifa unless maybe he was Vichy but still probably not. England should be able to wear a giant Poppy on there shirt if they want as they saved all of Europe from being ruled by a total mad man, with the help of the United States of course and for a Frenchman to uphold the ban is just disgusting.

Again arrogant

Please mentions the CCCP's role next time when you talk about the war

aford92 wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

aford92 wrote:I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.

THIS^

Anything to remember the people who fought in WW2 should never be questioned. There would be no EPL or French head of Fifa unless maybe he was Vichy but still probably not. England should be able to wear a giant Poppy on there shirt if they want as they saved all of Europe from being ruled by a total mad man, with the help of the United States of course and for a Frenchman to uphold the ban is just disgusting.

It's not even just WW2, it's for every war since WW1.

Yes I know this but all of Englad's wars since WW1 have not exactly been just, cough Ireland cough. But since WW1 the good does out weigh the bad.

its only fair.. if FIFA wont let any political or religious symbols then its not right if just because its our (british) poppies we think we should have special treatment.

imo well done for standing your ground fifa.

Yuri Yukuv wrote:

aford92 wrote:I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.

Blatter is swiss

Your arrogance is astounding

Arrogance? Please explain how I was arrogant in this post. Was I taking personal credit for the victories in the wars? No.

Well I agree. If Germany wore poppies would people bebokay with it even though their soldiers killed 6 million Jews, or if we're talking about WWI they killed thousands to gain more land? This is an international sport, a poppy can be offensive to some. Wearing a poppy says a lot more than a T Shirt underneath

CaseyBoi wrote:its only fair.. if FIFA wont let any political or religious symbols then its not right if just because its our (british) poppies we think we should have special treatment.

imo well done for standing your ground fifa.

Well said

Yuri Yukuv wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

aford92 wrote:I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.

THIS^

Anything to remember the people who fought in WW2 should never be questioned. There would be no EPL or French head of Fifa unless maybe he was Vichy but still probably not. England should be able to wear a giant Poppy on there shirt if they want as they saved all of Europe from being ruled by a total mad man, with the help of the United States of course and for a Frenchman to uphold the ban is just disgusting.

Again arrogant

Please mentions the CCCP's role next time when you talk about the war

Yes like Partnering with Hitler to chop up Poland how ever they wanted it not to mention trying to invade Finland as well. It wasn't until they got attacked by Germany that they were on the right side of the war. England and the USA were in the right from day one. CCCP only got in the right for self preservation, it's not the peoples fault as Stalin was just as bad if not worse then Hitler.

CaseyBoi wrote:its only fair.. if FIFA wont let any political or religious symbols then its not right if just because its our (british) poppies we think we should have special treatment.

imo well done for standing your ground fifa.

We don't want special treatment, anyone should be able to pay respect to dead heroes especially if all they are doing is having a little symbol on their shirts. Yet another stupid rule by FIFA, just like the getting booked for celebrating with the crowd.

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Yuri Yukuv wrote:

aford92 wrote:I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.[/quote]

Blatter is swiss

Your arrogance is astounding

Arrogance? Please explain how I was arrogant in this post. Was I taking personal credit for the victories in the wars? No.

The united states and russia won the war not england, nobody owes england anything and they should not be given special exceptions, blatter is not french he is swiss, how would you feel if the USA wore poppies commemorating the war of independence from english tyranny? how about if every country which was colonized by england also did that?

Its better to not mix football and politics

dnmac4 wrote:

Yuri Yukuv wrote:

dnmac4 wrote:

aford92 wrote:I could understand more if the game was against Germany but it isn't. It's not like we are trying to make some controversial political statement, we are just paying respects to the dead men who fought for our country.

We should go out with them on under the normal shirt and then take the normal shirt off, what are they going to do? Stop the game? It's probably just because FIFA is run by a Frenchman and he cannot take the fact that they surrendered whilst we battled on valiantly. Cheese-eating surrender monkey.

THIS^

Anything to remember the people who fought in WW2 should never be questioned. There would be no EPL or French head of Fifa unless maybe he was Vichy but still probably not. England should be able to wear a giant Poppy on there shirt if they want as they saved all of Europe from being ruled by a total mad man, with the help of the United States of course and for a Frenchman to uphold the ban is just disgusting.

Again arrogant

Please mentions the CCCP's role next time when you talk about the war

Yes like Partnering with Hitler to chop up Poland how ever they wanted it not to mention trying to invade Finland as well. It wasn't until they got attacked by Germany that they were on the right side of the war. England and the USA were in the right from day one. CCCP only got in the right for self preservation, it's not the peoples fault as Stalin was just as bad if not worse then Hitler.

The US didnt want to get into the war early on, wether you like it or not Russia had a key role in the war that many argue was more important than the united states.

Fifa run by Nazis

The thing is FIFA aren't always so cruel.
My signature shows a player holding up a shirt underneath as his son died and the referee didn't book him.

I definitely hope there is a 1 minute silence.

Real11 wrote:The thing is FIFA aren't always so cruel.
My signature shows a player holding up a shirt underneath as his son died and the referee didn't book him.

its not about politics

Yah this situation is not black and white. I can certainly see where FIFA are coming from. When you allow one political statement like this particular one to take place , you will have to allow every single one after this .

True but take this for example

Ref booked Messi for wishing his Mum Happy Birthday.

Not that I'm a Messi fan but its not about politics or religion.

aford92 wrote:

CaseyBoi wrote:its only fair.. if FIFA wont let any political or religious symbols then its not right if just because its our (british) poppies we think we should have special treatment.

imo well done for standing your ground fifa.

We don't want special treatment, anyone should be able to pay respect to dead heroes especially if all they are doing is having a little symbol on their shirts. Yet another stupid rule by FIFA, just like the getting booked for celebrating with the crowd.

okay then, imagine next time iran or iraq played and they came out with a symbol on thier shirt dedicated to all thier soldiers who died killing our british forces.. how would you feel if you are british?

Because im English and you say it wouldnt bother you then your either on crack or plain and simple not british enough lol