Is total football back?
+17
B-Mac
tsgooner1
Harmonica
xabi
InterMalia
fatman123
jibers
barca 2011
RealGunner
bloodless
the xcx
Lord Awesome
Sushi Master
Swanhends
billy_gr
Albiceleste
BarrileteCosmico
21 posters
Page 2 of 2
Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2
Re: Is total football back?
But pretty sick to watch
tsgooner1- Hot Prospect
- Posts : 392
Join date : 2011-06-05
Re: Is total football back?
where did it go?
B-Mac- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 8830
Join date : 2011-06-07
Age : 34
Re: Is total football back?
While some elements of total football remained, can we really claimed that any team practiced it since Cruyff's Barcelona or Van Gaal's Ajax?
BarrileteCosmico- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 28386
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 34
Re: Is total football back?
BarrileteCosmico wrote:How is it too soon? Total football refers to a style, and Barca played it todayLord Hispano wrote:Too soon to tell.
Time will tell us.
Let's see if they keep doing so.
You don't see me saying Valencia plays Total Football because Topal, Albelda, and Maduro played at the back line for a couple of games.
Lord Awesome- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 6111
Join date : 2011-06-10
Age : 36
Re: Is total football back?
So porto is not a top side now despite winning EL
FennecFox7- Fan Favorite
- Club Supported :
Posts : 7563
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 28
Re: Is total football back?
Giggity5313 wrote:So porto is not a top side now despite winning EL
Porto were without Alvaro pereira, Fernando, Varela, and Falcao in that game, all players which were instrumental last year. I'm a benfica fan and even I can admit that.
FilipeFerreira- Hot Prospect
- Club Supported :
Posts : 377
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 35
BarrileteCosmico- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 28386
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 34
Re: Is total football back?
This was a really good vid. Really breaks down the strategy implemented by Pep, but also the Football IQ on the pitch.BarrileteCosmico wrote:
barca 2011- First Team
- Club Supported :
Posts : 1755
Join date : 2011-06-07
Re: Is total football back?
In that video you can really appreciate the off the ball movement that makes it possible
Albiceleste- World Class Contributor
- Club Supported :
Posts : 11137
Join date : 2011-06-06
Age : 30
Re: Is total football back?
wow hats off to that team. Who ever dictated the play , made the defense like look like marionette puppets. I despise barca, but that is wonderful football
Arsenalfaithfull- First Team
- Club Supported :
Posts : 1726
Join date : 2011-07-14
Re: Is total football back?
That is the best football I have seen in since 1993
jibers- World Class Contributor
- Club Supported :
Posts : 10249
Join date : 2011-06-06
Re: Is total football back?
barca 2011 wrote:This was a really good vid. Really breaks down the strategy implemented by Pep, but also the Football IQ on the pitch.BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Thats a fantastic video, i'm not someone who believe all football should be played this way, but it is foolish to not see the great Dutch philosophy on play here.
chinomaster182- Starlet
- Club Supported :
Posts : 990
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 36
Re: Is total football back?
This reminds me of ajax in 95 and cruyffs dream team. God bless Guardiola.
jibers- World Class Contributor
- Club Supported :
Posts : 10249
Join date : 2011-06-06
Re: Is total football back?
Pep Guardiola praising the quarter final Copa del Rey tactics used by Rijkaard against Zaragoza in 2007, a year before taking over as coach.
Sentirlo (Feeling It)
02/03/2007
In the last page of the newspaper La Vanguardia yesterday, the actress Norma Aleando commented that many people win the lottery and they don't even know it. I believe that for those who love Barça (a lot) and football (even more) it's been time since we won the lottery. And the best part is that we know it. From the hands of a Dutch and a Catalan.
I'm sorry, Norma.
It seems, from what they say, that the dream team came back against Zaragoza; I think the dream team has never left.
"Victory appeals me and I realize that the way that approaches her the most is taking control. I would never think about playing a game without stepping into the opponent's half". Marvelous phrase from Marcelo Bielsa that Barcelona has made their own more than a decade ago. In Barcelona we understand that we can win a thousand ways. All of them valid. All of them work. But in Barcelona we also understand that you can never win and win again without a style that you feel. A style that that the bosses don't feel, or the coaches, the players, the friends at the press, and the people that come watch us every week.
I believe that the actual Barça players feel this. They feel it, because many saw their closest predecessors do it. They feel it because they have seen themselves do it and winning with it (how much winning reinforces convictions...) and because they know that since they have done it, they can do it again. If they didn't feel it this way, they would win. But some day. They wouldn't win all the time. You can't go from playing a defensive line with four players, to playing with three, and I mean three not five, and do it as if it was something ordinary. And doing it well. And winning and being in the semi-finals of the Copa.
I think, and maybe I'm mistaken, but that's what I see: they like to play through the ball. That they attack and defend with the ball and that they understand that it can't be that the ball is there and we're here; the ball up there and the rest down here. They feel that instead of moving a lot towards the ball, it's better to wait and receive it. It will come. They feel that the forwards to triumph and show up in the papers they need a good ball from the midfielders, and these, to be able to do that, need a good ball from their defenders. I pass it to you and you pass it to them. Ronaldinho knows he's better with Eto'o and Eto'o knows he's better with Ronaldinho. They have their attributes, but together they're better than alone. They insist in knowing where the free man is in every moment, and they know that it's better that the free man is Iniesta than a full back.
They know that Iniesta and Xavi are compatible. And why wouldn't they be, joder? They understand, like any good collective play, that when you start on the right flank it's best to finish in the left flank, and that a backpass doesn't mean they're scared but merely the beginning of a better play. They feel that the chance will arrive and that the possession by itself is nothing, but it's a tool to reach the goal. That it's better for the wingers to get the ball from the center than from the fullbacks. That if the three small ones play (Deco-Xavi-Iniesta), like against Zaragoza, the canteranos must take care of control and the elaboration of the play, and Deco of the finishing. They feel that if we have to play with three in the back, well then we'll play with three, but those three have to have the legs of Oleguer and Puyol. And they also know that they have the best player in the world with them, or almost, and that if we talk about knowing to play football, not about being more decisive, not about making plays, I reiterate, about knowing how to play football, we have the best two midfielders in the world. But that all these bests and almost best players, in another environment they would struggle to be just almosts. They know it. Or that way they feel it.
Or that's what I think.
And with all this, sometimes, once in a while, they also lose. They lose because of a lack of will. For not sweating the jersey. Or because lately they have eaten a well and a lot. And they're not as hungry anymore. Yes, they also lose for those reasons. Like all the teams in the world. But they also lose because sometimes, Xavi or Deco or Iniesta go steal the ball from the center backs when maybe they shouldn't. Or because sometimes a ball that starts in the right flank ends in the right flank. Or because the third man is used occasionally. Or because Ronaldinho has to receive more balls from Marquez and less from Sylvinho... Or because the transition of attack-defense, from having it to not having it, is maybe slower now. Or because Eto'o is not there. Or what the hell do I know why they lose! But they lose. But they don't only lose from not sweating the jersey. For not running more and more. They lose for other things and they know it. Some because they have been born here and that way they have been educated; others because they have no choice but to learn.
Tomorrow Barça will lose. Or the day after. It happens to all of us. But no one can argue that it's been a long time since Barça is a team with personality. Unique.
And you have no idea how much I like that.
Hours before the game against Zaragoza, Iniesta sent my brother a text message. Mi brother resent it to me. It said: "The dream team is back. I'm playing". Can't you feel how they should play the marvelous craft that is to play fooball?
Do you have any doubt about how they would play against The Beatles?
Will they go through? Will they go home? Don't doubt Bielsa's words.
Sentirlo (Feeling It)
02/03/2007
In the last page of the newspaper La Vanguardia yesterday, the actress Norma Aleando commented that many people win the lottery and they don't even know it. I believe that for those who love Barça (a lot) and football (even more) it's been time since we won the lottery. And the best part is that we know it. From the hands of a Dutch and a Catalan.
I'm sorry, Norma.
It seems, from what they say, that the dream team came back against Zaragoza; I think the dream team has never left.
"Victory appeals me and I realize that the way that approaches her the most is taking control. I would never think about playing a game without stepping into the opponent's half". Marvelous phrase from Marcelo Bielsa that Barcelona has made their own more than a decade ago. In Barcelona we understand that we can win a thousand ways. All of them valid. All of them work. But in Barcelona we also understand that you can never win and win again without a style that you feel. A style that that the bosses don't feel, or the coaches, the players, the friends at the press, and the people that come watch us every week.
I believe that the actual Barça players feel this. They feel it, because many saw their closest predecessors do it. They feel it because they have seen themselves do it and winning with it (how much winning reinforces convictions...) and because they know that since they have done it, they can do it again. If they didn't feel it this way, they would win. But some day. They wouldn't win all the time. You can't go from playing a defensive line with four players, to playing with three, and I mean three not five, and do it as if it was something ordinary. And doing it well. And winning and being in the semi-finals of the Copa.
I think, and maybe I'm mistaken, but that's what I see: they like to play through the ball. That they attack and defend with the ball and that they understand that it can't be that the ball is there and we're here; the ball up there and the rest down here. They feel that instead of moving a lot towards the ball, it's better to wait and receive it. It will come. They feel that the forwards to triumph and show up in the papers they need a good ball from the midfielders, and these, to be able to do that, need a good ball from their defenders. I pass it to you and you pass it to them. Ronaldinho knows he's better with Eto'o and Eto'o knows he's better with Ronaldinho. They have their attributes, but together they're better than alone. They insist in knowing where the free man is in every moment, and they know that it's better that the free man is Iniesta than a full back.
They know that Iniesta and Xavi are compatible. And why wouldn't they be, joder? They understand, like any good collective play, that when you start on the right flank it's best to finish in the left flank, and that a backpass doesn't mean they're scared but merely the beginning of a better play. They feel that the chance will arrive and that the possession by itself is nothing, but it's a tool to reach the goal. That it's better for the wingers to get the ball from the center than from the fullbacks. That if the three small ones play (Deco-Xavi-Iniesta), like against Zaragoza, the canteranos must take care of control and the elaboration of the play, and Deco of the finishing. They feel that if we have to play with three in the back, well then we'll play with three, but those three have to have the legs of Oleguer and Puyol. And they also know that they have the best player in the world with them, or almost, and that if we talk about knowing to play football, not about being more decisive, not about making plays, I reiterate, about knowing how to play football, we have the best two midfielders in the world. But that all these bests and almost best players, in another environment they would struggle to be just almosts. They know it. Or that way they feel it.
Or that's what I think.
And with all this, sometimes, once in a while, they also lose. They lose because of a lack of will. For not sweating the jersey. Or because lately they have eaten a well and a lot. And they're not as hungry anymore. Yes, they also lose for those reasons. Like all the teams in the world. But they also lose because sometimes, Xavi or Deco or Iniesta go steal the ball from the center backs when maybe they shouldn't. Or because sometimes a ball that starts in the right flank ends in the right flank. Or because the third man is used occasionally. Or because Ronaldinho has to receive more balls from Marquez and less from Sylvinho... Or because the transition of attack-defense, from having it to not having it, is maybe slower now. Or because Eto'o is not there. Or what the hell do I know why they lose! But they lose. But they don't only lose from not sweating the jersey. For not running more and more. They lose for other things and they know it. Some because they have been born here and that way they have been educated; others because they have no choice but to learn.
Tomorrow Barça will lose. Or the day after. It happens to all of us. But no one can argue that it's been a long time since Barça is a team with personality. Unique.
And you have no idea how much I like that.
Hours before the game against Zaragoza, Iniesta sent my brother a text message. Mi brother resent it to me. It said: "The dream team is back. I'm playing". Can't you feel how they should play the marvelous craft that is to play fooball?
Do you have any doubt about how they would play against The Beatles?
Will they go through? Will they go home? Don't doubt Bielsa's words.
BarrileteCosmico- Admin
- Club Supported :
Posts : 28386
Join date : 2011-06-05
Age : 34
Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2
Similar topics
» COC Presents you the "ultimate total football" on Halloween
» english football is back
» Ched Evans back in football. Yes or No ?
» Total Football and the "Netherlands Guide Land"
» Manchester United vs Arsenal
» english football is back
» Ched Evans back in football. Yes or No ?
» Total Football and the "Netherlands Guide Land"
» Manchester United vs Arsenal
Page 2 of 2
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Today at 1:25 am by Arquitecto
» Ruben Amorim Sack Watch
Yesterday at 10:52 pm by the xcx
» The US Politics Thread
Yesterday at 9:56 pm by Pedram
» The TV Series Thread - Part 5
Yesterday at 7:52 pm by BarrileteCosmico
» Vinicius Jr signs for Madrid
Yesterday at 6:34 pm by halamadrid2
» Premier League 2024/25
Mon Nov 25, 2024 2:46 pm by farfan
» GL NBA fantasy 24-25
Mon Nov 25, 2024 1:20 pm by Warrior
» The Official Real Madrid Matchday Thread 24 - 25
Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:13 pm by Thimmy
» La Liga 2024/25
Sun Nov 24, 2024 9:07 pm by Thimmy
» Raphinha's Ballon d'Or campaing
Sun Nov 24, 2024 7:02 pm by BarcaLearning
» Political Correctness, LGBTQ, #meToo and other related topics
Sun Nov 24, 2024 4:50 pm by Arquitecto
» Hansi Flick Sack Watch
Sun Nov 24, 2024 2:37 pm by Clutch
» Miguel "Miguelito" Gutierrez
Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:50 pm by The Madrid One