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Post by Ganso Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:57 pm

how will they look like?as i posted earlier

Ganso wrote:damn,i just realized most of their top players will be pretty old in 2014

RVP-32
VDV-32
Sneijder-30
Robben-30
Kuyt-35
De Jong-30
MVB-38



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Post by the xcx Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:58 pm

Thats why germany is going to lift teh trophy. Very Happy
Or france/Italy
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Post by xabi Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:09 pm

these are not the right numbers.

robben and sneijder for example are 27 years old each
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Post by Vibe Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:11 pm

VibeTribe wrote:
Shocked

There's 2 years and 3 months till 2014,Sneijder and Robben won't even be 30,you placed them in retirement home :lol!:

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Post by Rebaño Sagrado Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:16 pm

Ganso wrote:
xabi wrote:these are not the right numbers.

robben and sneijder for example are 27 years old each
Read

he means they won't be 33 in 2014
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Post by Ganso Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:17 pm

yeah i edited it
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Post by Vibe Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:19 pm

Sorry to say,but you're still 2-3 years over on the rest of them...
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Post by Ganso Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:21 pm

rvp is 28,vdv is 28,sneijder 27,robben 27,kuyt 31,de jong 26.MVB 34.Im just adding 3-4 years so it is round their age at the time(didnt check months etc)
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Post by Vibe Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:24 pm

I see but 2014 is in 2 years and 3 months...So you're adding 2 years and 9 months more then you should.

If you're counting till WC then it's in 2 years and 6 months...
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Post by Ganso Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:28 pm

Netherlands in 2014? 1270693145305

just round it to 3 years
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Post by Vibe Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:39 pm

You're an asshole kid know that...You added 4 and a half years instead of less than 2 and a half.

I'm a fkn monkey arguing politely...Sneijder 33 in 2 years Netherlands in 2014? Facepalm
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Post by The Madrid One Sat Aug 27, 2011 5:41 pm

mesut ozil- Golden boot for helping his german side eliminate the dutch in the quarter finals and scoring 3 goals assisting 5.

germany ftw.

too bad holland Sad
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Sat Aug 27, 2011 6:40 pm

Holland have the best academies in the world... they will always have flocks on wc players coming in every generation. They are the next to win the WC ! mark my words.
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Post by Ali Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:06 pm

RVP is Bergkamp lite...will play until 36 :coffee:
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Post by justdoit_ Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:34 pm

Holland's up-and-coming generation is weaksauce.
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:43 pm

justdoit_ wrote:Holland's up-and-coming generation is weaksauce.


that was EXACTLY what was said about the Robben Sneijder RVP VDV Kuyt Huntelaar generation, when the Pat Kluivert RVN bergkamp overmars generation failed to make the wc in 2002... and had these kids come into the national team setup... trust me Holland is always set.
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Post by lenear1030 Sat Aug 27, 2011 7:55 pm

justdoit_ wrote:Holland's up-and-coming generation is weaksauce.


van der wiel, wijnaldum, castaignos, affelay, luuk de jong, elia etc. aren't exactly slouches.



but no they wont be near as good as the current crop
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Post by Khaled Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:06 pm

The Madrid One wrote:mesut ozil- Golden boot for helping his german side eliminate the dutch in the quarter finals and scoring 3 goals assisting 5.

germany ftw.

too bad holland Sad

r u spanish?
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Post by Vibe Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:07 pm

Funny how Netherlands is crying for CB's and Ajax grown Toby and Jan for Belgium Surprised
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:10 pm

THe dutch remind me of Arsenal of late. Great football with flair and crisp finishes but the defense is kinda moshy
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Post by Dnmac4 Sat Aug 27, 2011 8:12 pm

Arsenalfaithfull wrote:Holland have the best academies in the world... they will always have flocks on wc players coming in every generation. They are the next to win the WC ! mark my words.

Mark your words that the dutch are going to win the next World Cup in Brazil. Do you even have a reason to say this? Please tell me your dutch or something. Holland doesn't even produce the best youngsters in Europe any more that would be Spain let alone the world.

Yes, European teams do so well in World Cups played away from Europe, this is rediculous, not to mention they will be playing Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina on there home continent, and in Europe by 2014 Germany, Spain are head and shoulders better then them.

Who are these prospects that your talking about as we should already know there names since the World Cup isn't too far away, I know the youngsters who havemade a little bit of a name for themselves from the Dutch and they are nowhere near Spain, Germany, Brazil, Mexico etc.
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Post by McAgger Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:22 pm

Rodney Sniejder....They already have a replacement for Wesley
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Post by Arsenalfaithfull Sat Aug 27, 2011 9:41 pm

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Arsenalfaithfull wrote:Holland have the best academies in the world... they will always have flocks on wc players coming in every generation. They are the next to win the WC ! mark my words.

Mark your words that the dutch are going to win the next World Cup in Brazil. Do you even have a reason to say this? Please tell me your dutch or something. Holland doesn't even produce the best youngsters in Europe any more that would be Spain let alone the world.

Yes, European teams do so well in World Cups played away from Europe, this is rediculous, not to mention they will be playing Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina on there home continent, and in Europe by 2014 Germany, Spain are head and shoulders better then them.

Who are these prospects that your talking about as we should already know there names since the World Cup isn't too far away, I know the youngsters who havemade a little bit of a name for themselves from the Dutch and they are nowhere near Spain, Germany, Brazil, Mexico etc.

I am not Dutch, but i support Holland (insert a canada diss... i know your style). The reason why you dont hear about Dutch players, is because you dont look outside of Barca. Mexico, because they played the US team therefore probably had exposure on ESPN. ANd you know about Brazil, because they are Brazil..,, once again heavily covered by the media.

SO who are the up and coming players from Holland?
Elia
De Jong
Van der wiel
Georginio Wijnaldum
Rodney Sneider
maarten stekelenburg
Jeffrey Bruma
Afelly

that is just from the top of my head .

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Post by Dnmac4 Sat Aug 27, 2011 10:40 pm

Arsenalfaithfull wrote:
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Arsenalfaithfull wrote:Holland have the best academies in the world... they will always have flocks on wc players coming in every generation. They are the next to win the WC ! mark my words.

Mark your words that the dutch are going to win the next World Cup in Brazil. Do you even have a reason to say this? Please tell me your dutch or something. Holland doesn't even produce the best youngsters in Europe any more that would be Spain let alone the world.

Yes, European teams do so well in World Cups played away from Europe, this is rediculous, not to mention they will be playing Brazil, Uruguay, and Argentina on there home continent, and in Europe by 2014 Germany, Spain are head and shoulders better then them.

Who are these prospects that your talking about as we should already know there names since the World Cup isn't too far away, I know the youngsters who havemade a little bit of a name for themselves from the Dutch and they are nowhere near Spain, Germany, Brazil, Mexico etc.

I am not Dutch, but i support Holland (insert a canada diss... i know your style). The reason why you dont hear about Dutch players, is because you dont look outside of Barca. Mexico, because they played the US team therefore probably had exposure on ESPN. ANd you know about Brazil, because they are Brazil..,, once again heavily covered by the media.

SO who are the up and coming players from Holland?
Elia
De Jong
Van der wiel
Georginio Wijnaldum
Rodney Sneider
maarten stekelenburg
Jeffrey Bruma
Afelly

that is just from the top of my head .


They are all decent players, but again they are no where close to Germany, Brazil, Spain, etc. Even team like Argentina and Uruguay will have better young players then them for 2014. Not to mention, you are just ignoring the fact that European teams suck outside of Europe in the world cup.

Face it, your talking out of your ass. Let me take your list for example if you consider these "Young players"


Elia- 24 years old
De Jong-2 months shy of 27
Van der wiel- 23
Georginio Wijnaldum-20
Rodney Sneider-20
maarten stekelenburg- 1 month shy of 29
Jeffrey Bruma-20
Afelly-25

You have 3 players here that are under the age of 23 the rest are pretty much developed and again they are decent but dont hold water to the teams I mentioned.

Argentina Brazil Spain Germany
Erik Lamela-19 Danilo-20 David de Gea-20 Felix Kroos-20
Juan Iturbe-18 Sandro-20 Bartra-20 Mario Götze-19
Kun Aguero-23 Philippe Coutinho-19 Sergio Canales-20 Toni Kroos-21
Di Maria-23 David Luiz-24 Oriol Romeu-19 Manuel Neuer-24
Messi-24 Lucas Leiva-24 Iker Muniain-18 Mats Hummels-22
Marcos Rojo-21 Ganso-21 Javi Martinez-22 Holger Badstuber-22
Pastore-22 Lucas Moura-19 Jeffren-23 Christian Träsch-23
Banega-23 Leandro Damião-22 Daniel Parejo-22 Jérôme Boateng-22
Gonzalo Higuaín-23 Neymar-19 Bojan Krkić-20 Sven Bender-22
Pablo Piatti-22 Sandro-22 Juan Mata-23 Mesut Özil-22
Anderson-23 Thiago Alcântara-20 Thomas Müller-21
Cesc Fábregas-24 Dennis Aogo-24
Sergio Busquets-23 Sami Khedira-24
Pedro Rodríguez-24 Marko Marin-22
Gerard Piqué-24

Now please note that I didn't try and cheat like you and stretch out my list by putting guys on there who are 29 and 27 years old. In fact no one is above the age of 24 on my list because by 24 years old you should know what that player is going to be. I could do this for some other countries as well (Uruguay,Mexico,England) as Holland's youth is nowhere near these teams and they are not the best youth system in the world. Holland's youth's are no where near the level of these countries.

Just admit it, you have no reason to say Holland is going to win the next world cup, in fact last World Cup was there chance and they didn't win, these countries are in much better position to have much better teams come 2014.

And don't sit here and act like we don't know who the Dutch youth are because we don't watch enough football, the reason we don't know them is because they are not elite and other countries have better young talent. Stop talking out of your ass and looking like such a fool.
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Post by H.A. Sat Aug 27, 2011 11:28 pm

I think next years Euro's will kind of be the last competition for the current generation.

Also give the newer generation a chance, they may not be completely ready by 2014 but I'm sure by 2018 they'll be up and going.

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