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Post by IAmManUnited Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:55 am

I kno everyone says, he always has these little surges, he'll go back to being fat and lazy soon enough. But the guys really giving it all in brazi, hes the current top scorer, his teams in 2nd, hes lost a lotta pounds, he running, dribbling and being selfish again which he needs tbh

He also got recalled for the Brazil squad against Ghana. TBH hes only 31, not that old, he loves football and i bileve impossible is nothing new for him Anyhows who thinks he might go back to a big club next year?
I would personally love him at UTD, just because his passes are so deadly and our strikers are so clinical.

But dreams aside, i could see him in the EPL and playing on the 2014 WC squad :/ thats just me tho lolll
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Post by The Franchise Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:57 am

I have to say it, we have seen this all before.

He is trying hard I am sure, but you have to understand football isnt the only important thing in his life and he has won everything on all levels individually and collectively. The motivation isnt the same.

He still lacks the blazing speed and quickness he had and that isnt coming back.

You also get the impression that if you press him hard and be rough, there isnt anything he can do about it anymore on a consistent basis.

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Post by The Franchise Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:58 am

Though, thats not to say I dont wish him all the best and would love to see him do well for Brazil. I dont think he is that guy anymore and those days are gone now, but I will ALWAYS want the best for him.
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Aug 22, 2011 2:59 am

Truth is, as good as the Brazilian serie A is, it simply isn't at the level among the top levels of europe as its near but not there.

Dinho had shown these flashes of dedication at Milan yet went right back down the alley.

Another thing? When the opposition actually got good? Ronaldinho would completely disappear.

Brazil must move on from him as Ganso, Coutinho, etc needs to be given time and not this money grabbing gaucho.
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Post by IAmManUnited Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:05 am

True i agree at the same time, hes an amazing playmaker in his own respect, so that plays to his own attritubes and hes still better than 90% of the footballers in the world. U never know with roonie, u never really know lol
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Post by JuvenelCuore Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:17 am

I do not think he ever lost it. I think people were used to seeing him at a high level and when he dropped to a level which was below that, they freaked out.

But what has to be remembered, as "IamManUnited" said is that he is better than 90% of footballers today.

He went from the best, undoubtably, to one of the best, and I guess it was too much to handle. He is still relatively young, 30-31, which is not bad as Xavi is that age and works on a big team.

But I do not see him losing Brasil, but he is trying to get back as he also lost 5kg I heard.
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Post by Catracho Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:26 am

Arquitecto wrote:Truth is, as good as the Brazilian serie A is, it simply isn't at the level among the top levels of europe as its near but not there.

Dinho had shown these flashes of dedication at Milan yet went right back down the alley.

Another thing? When the opposition actually got good? Ronaldinho would completely disappear.

Brazil must move on from him as Ganso, Coutinho, etc needs to be given time and not this money grabbing gaucho.

I disagree.. Brasileirao Serie A is a top league, period.
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Post by PinePHresh Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:29 am

What leagues would you say it is on par with? I have to say some of the defending is shocking, though I am not a regular viewer.
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Post by Catracho Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:35 am

Ligue 1 and right below Bundesliga.
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Post by The Franchise Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:40 am

People also say/said La Liga defending is shocking.

Maybe the attackers are just very good?
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Post by Arquitecto Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:43 am

Catracho wrote:Ligue 1 and right below Bundesliga.

Which is what I'm saying Cataracho.

A top league, but not among THE top.

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Post by Eivindo Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:07 pm

and soon Adriano will resurrect again too?Very Happy
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Post by Lord Awesome Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:26 pm

Fanatics. Can't blame anyone, though.
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Post by Giggslegend Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:12 pm

he was THIS close to signing for united before barca snapped him right infront of us in 2003. SAF even sayd he thought the deal was done but suddenly he had signed for barca for a larger fee...
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Post by Guest Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:26 pm

People here really underestimate Lique 1. We now have an elite spending team (PSG) + Lyon + Marseille + Lille... all extremely talented. Other than perhaps the bottom 5, everyone is tough and can beat the top teams.

The league is very deep in talent and i would argue that it is the top defensive league in the world.

No way the Brazil league is even close from top to bottom.

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Post by Catracho Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:34 pm

dude... our best club, would topple your best club.

We hang with the Bayerns Munich and AC Milans.
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Post by Ganso Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:53 pm

south american clubs in general are underrated,specially the brasileirao.

I wont say we are equal to serie a,epl and la liga,but were def not worse than the bundesliga and ligue 1.

And Ronaldinho isnt back,hes just fit.Whats most amazing about him atm is his passing.
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Post by Guest Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:07 pm

He impressed me with his vision and passing last night. I'm tired of this whole Ronaldinho sage, if people want to keep putting him under a microscope, that's their problem. Sweet free kick from him as well, the man still has it and never lost it. He just won't ever be what he once was, but than again 95% of footballers will never reach those levels.

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 22, 2011 5:59 pm

Catracho wrote:dude... our best club, would topple your best club.

We hang with the Bayerns Munich and AC Milans.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Lyon beat Madrid i don't know how many times in a row in CL and also took our Man U + others (CL semis in 2009). Marseille was a powerhouse in the 90s and they are still very tough in CL. PSG is as talented as anyone AND all our teams are dangerous in CL (Monaco made it to 2004 Final).

The depth of Ligue 1 puts the Brazilian league to shame honestly and i watch both. Plus, nobody plays much defense or uses good tactics in Brazil.

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:01 pm

Brazilian league is like the Portuguese league honestly.... you have the top teams and then mostly junk below them.

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Post by Ganso Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:07 pm

portugal has benfica and porto.

We have Corinthians,Sao Paulo,Flamengo,Internacional,Santos and usually another 1 or 2 teams that do well.We are def not a 2 or 3 horse race.
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Post by Guest Mon Aug 22, 2011 6:14 pm

I'm not the most knowledgeable person on most leagues, but I wanted to ask a question to those of you that follow the Brasilian league. Would you consider the league unique? It seems players get sold more frequently than other leagues, which would make it more difficult to keep chemistry between players. The league is able to remain competitive because there is so much talent around, if one star leaves, another one is sure to pop up.

I know recently Brasil has come into a nice deal, how do you think this money will help the league? Will teams be able to keep star players longer?

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:12 pm

Ganso wrote:portugal has benfica and porto.

We have Corinthians,Sao Paulo,Flamengo,Internacional,Santos and usually another 1 or 2 teams that do well.We are def not a 2 or 3 horse race.

Sporting are usually good too and Braga has been good recently. Brazil teams' defense is pretty bad from what i've seen.

What's going on with Santos this year btw?

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Post by Ganso Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:19 pm

our defenses are not hat bad,the only reason they look bad is because people normally watch youtube videos of players owning them and the strikers and midfielders over here are of good quality.I see a lot of autrocious defending in Europe too,specially in la liga and epl.

about santos,they lost their players for the copa america,u20 WC and injuries + occasional losses.

The schedule is awful,there are still matchdays on fifa dates.

Good for the rest Razz
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