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Post by Senor Penguin Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:55 pm

buddytaller wrote:
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buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
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Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
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Don't be silly, the US gives more to Ghana than Libya does, my point is that Gaddafi represented the leader people here clamour for, a leader who against all odds will make the most use of the countries resources, provide free quality education, health and other social benefits, womens rights etc. Gaddafi did just that, go do a little research on the artificial rivers he built in Libya, and read about pre-Gaddafi Libya whilst you're at it.

Buddy, ghaddafi did nothing. Oil is what did everything, the artificial river was just another pyramid project which he used to move some funds around.

Just compare libya to other oil exporting arab countries in the GCC, observe the huge difference in quality of life.


Whatever the case maybe Libya was still the most prosperous African nation, a shame all the hard labour by Gaddafi and other Libyan have been turned into a pile of rubbles..
Most prosperous in terms of ...? A lot of acknowledged indexes don't even list Libya (guess why) and those that do show it as a nation on-par with or below neighboring states.

One of the few indexes I could find where Libya were ahead of others was on the Human Development Index:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

A growing economy which supported a million immigrants (about 20%) of the population of Libyans a booming construction industry, new technologies to improve agriculture and make Libya less reliant on petroleum exports etc.. Thanks for sharing the wikipedia page which buttresses the facts I had earlier researched on.
Based on GDP growth, Libya cannot compete with many African countries and is far from being most prosperous in the region:
http://www.economywatch.com/economic-statistics/economic-indicators/GDP_Growth_Constant_Prices_National_Currency/2010/

There are also statistics for 2011 but it doesn't provide any data for Libya. Same thing when I try to find data on technological and agricultural investment for Libya - it's either scarce or non-existent.

So far I've been unable to find proper data confirming your belief that Libya was the most prosperous nation in Africa ...

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Post by Jonathan28 Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:09 pm

Some people like Gaddafi some people didn't, can we just accept that already and stop insulting each other, especially buddytaller. Just because his opinion is different from yours dosen't give you the right to start insulting him, that is extremely childish.

But on a different note, if Gaddafi was going to be put on trial for war crimes, Bush and Blair should have been put on trial with him.
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Post by Lord Spencer Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:38 pm

Ordinho10 wrote:Some people like Gaddafi some people didn't, can we just accept that already and stop insulting each other, especially buddytaller. Just because his opinion is different from yours dosen't give you the right to start insulting him, that is extremely childish.

But on a different note, if Gaddafi was going to be put on trial for war crimes, Bush and Blair should have been put on trial with him.

People who believe the world is flat deserve to be insulted.

The lies and propaganda buddytaller is sprouting is no different. He is an oblivious man, who would not see the truth if it slapped him in the face. Ghaddafi could have probably raped him and his family and he would still consider him a hero. Well, you know what, the rat and his family have been raping Libya for 42 years.

Jog it on Buddytaller, might as well go and support Congo now, you after all support the raping of a country, no reason not support the use of rape as a weapon of war.
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Post by MJ Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:42 pm

You guys basically asked for a systematic LordSpencer pwnage.
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Post by Lord Spencer Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:46 pm

MJGunner wrote:You guys basically asked for a systematic LordSpencer pwnage.

I already delivered that 10 pages ago, but buddytaller has Ghaddafi's dick so far up his he can't read properly, I am not on the mood to do it again.
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Post by MJ Fri Oct 21, 2011 7:51 pm

Ahhh, see I didn't go through every post. But forget it. He's unreasonable and ridiculous.
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:04 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:
Ordinho10 wrote:Some people like Gaddafi some people didn't, can we just accept that already and stop insulting each other, especially buddytaller. Just because his opinion is different from yours dosen't give you the right to start insulting him, that is extremely childish.

But on a different note, if Gaddafi was going to be put on trial for war crimes, Bush and Blair should have been put on trial with him.

People who believe the world is flat deserve to be insulted.

The lies and propaganda buddytaller is sprouting is no different. He is an oblivious man, who would not see the truth if it slapped him in the face. Ghaddafi could have probably raped him and his family and he would still consider him a hero. Well, you know what, the rat and his family have been raping Libya for 42 years.

Jog it on Buddytaller, might as well go and support Congo now, you after all support the raping of a country, no reason not support the use of rape as a weapon of war.

Not spreading propaganda, it's my opinion of things which are shared by millions of Libyans, do you believe Gaddafi had no support in Libya? How would he have survived the many assassination attempts on him by the American government, did you watch the videos I posted, there were millions or at least hundreds of thousands cheering his speeches, were they forced at gun point to listen to Gaddafi speak, in the midst of a full blown crisis.

Disabuse your mind my dear, the world is not flat and Governments of the world's super powers don't have the best interest of countries like Libya at heart. Otherwise they would have resorted to diplomatic dialogue not bombs that sent a developing nation back to the stone age, funny how they preach democracy when they dictate to the world, VETO power et al. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:12 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:
MJGunner wrote:You guys basically asked for a systematic LordSpencer pwnage.

I already delivered that 10 pages ago, but buddytaller has Ghaddafi's dick so far up his he can't read properly, I am not on the mood to do it again.

Have you been watching the videos, I've been posting ... I hate repeating myself over and over again, many lies have been told about brother leader, I know he's no worse a person than Blair, Sarkozy and Bush, who still roam free. All I'm trying to do is make you read in between the lies the mass media is feeding us.

Take time and listened to some enlightened Americans speak on the war in Libya.
http://vimeo.com/26481345
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Post by Lord Spencer Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:23 pm

buddytaller wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:
Ordinho10 wrote:Some people like Gaddafi some people didn't, can we just accept that already and stop insulting each other, especially buddytaller. Just because his opinion is different from yours dosen't give you the right to start insulting him, that is extremely childish.

But on a different note, if Gaddafi was going to be put on trial for war crimes, Bush and Blair should have been put on trial with him.

People who believe the world is flat deserve to be insulted.

The lies and propaganda buddytaller is sprouting is no different. He is an oblivious man, who would not see the truth if it slapped him in the face. Ghaddafi could have probably raped him and his family and he would still consider him a hero. Well, you know what, the rat and his family have been raping Libya for 42 years.

Jog it on Buddytaller, might as well go and support Congo now, you after all support the raping of a country, no reason not support the use of rape as a weapon of war.

Not spreading propaganda, it's my opinion of things which are shared by millions of Libyans, do you believe Gaddafi had no support in Libya? How would he have survived the many assassination attempts on him by the American government, did you watch the videos I posted, there were millions or at least hundreds of thousands cheering his speeches, were they forced at gun point to listen to Gaddafi speak, in the midst of a full blown crisis.

Disabuse your mind my dear, the world is not flat and Governments of the world's super powers don't have the best interest of countries like Libya at heart. Otherwise they would have resorted to diplomatic dialogue not bombs that sent a developing nation back to the stone age, funny how they preach democracy when they dictate to the world, VETO power et al. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

The population of Libya is 6.6 Million, I can't see how "millions" can turn up in a rally. Your "Facts" have been shown time and time again to be inaccurate and false.

What makes t he videos you post to be the truth and the real live feed 7ammod gives to be false. Have you met real Libyans or are you just imagining people.

Developing Nation, really, did you go to Libya or are you getting some information out of your ass. Apparently you do not understand simple logic and facts.
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Post by RedOranje Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:23 pm

"read in between the lies the mass media is feeding us"...


And there it goes.
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Post by MJ Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:27 pm

hahahahahaha^
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Post by Guest Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:06 pm

It will be interesting to see in a few years time the differences in living conditions in the country and how much of that oil reserve is still owned by the country.

I have my own predictions but I will keep those to myself.....

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Post by MJ Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:55 pm

Do tell Crimson Smile
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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:29 pm

buddytaller wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:
MJGunner wrote:You guys basically asked for a systematic LordSpencer pwnage.

I already delivered that 10 pages ago, but buddytaller has Ghaddafi's dick so far up his he can't read properly, I am not on the mood to do it again.

Have you been watching the videos, I've been posting ... I hate repeating myself over and over again, many lies have been told about brother leader, I know he's no worse a person than Blair, Sarkozy and Bush, who still roam free. All I'm trying to do is make you read in between the lies the mass media is feeding us.

Take time and listened to some enlightened Americans speak on the war in Libya.
http://vimeo.com/26481345

Obviously if people think that Gadaffi deserved to be killed then so should guys like Bush, who are no better humans and are terrorists just as well (but painted opposites in the western world, just like how the other guys are painted as good in the other world). But this does not justify Gadaffi's actions, who deserved to be taken out, humiliated, and killed.

You also brought up NATO's mission in Libya in one of the videos, and while it's obvious that it was intended for other things like oil and countries like the US have a secret policy of dividing local folks up to cause tensions between them, it does not justify Gaddafi's actions.

I think you are mixing things up.

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Post by elm_baraja_shaman Sat Oct 22, 2011 12:51 am

coming to buddy_taller's aid a bit, I would say Ghanaians [at least whilst I was raised up there] have a good deal of respect for Ghadafi, his role in the formation of the OAU heeds this cause,

but where buddy_taller gets it wrong is he makes it seem like Ghanaians justify Ghadaffi's actions against his people as good.

Ghanaians are media propaganda-ed people, the treatment of most people flocking to the streets to see Ghadafi [or the brother-leader according to buddy] is more of the feed the eye's curiosity,

heck if even Osama bin Laden were to drive all the way from Afghanistan to Ghana whilst he were alive, he'd receive the same treatment from the people flocking to the streets to catch a glimpse of him as they'd do for Obama.

That does in no way reflect the general propaganda of Ghanaians for Ghadaffi's actions and neither does it for the government's cause.

I must point out that buddy_taller must have really been a big fan of Flt. Lft. J.J Rawling's PNDC Military Regime to view Ghaddafi's actions in good light or something because I know Rawlings was and is a very good friend of Ghaddafi.....

I do not believe 100% of Ghana supports Ghaddafi's actions and I doubt even buddy_taller even does, but we did admire Ghaddafi's though for what he did for the continent of Africa though...... not for what he did to his own Libyan people...
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Post by ÖMARz Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:13 am

lol, you guys are seriously *bleep* if your praising gaddafis time in libya.

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:10 am

ÖMARz wrote:lol, you guys are seriously *bleep* if your praising gaddafis time in libya.

It's only buddy_taller...lets just say that he's thinking a bit too much

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Post by beatrixasdfghjk. Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:05 am

They froze his body and displayed it in a shopping centre .. :facepalm:
http://www.smh.com.au/world/gaddafi-on-display-in-freezer-as-row-rages-over-killing-20111022-1md9x.html

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:44 am

beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:They froze his body and displayed it in a shopping centre .. :facepalm:
http://www.smh.com.au/world/gaddafi-on-display-in-freezer-as-row-rages-over-killing-20111022-1md9x.html

LOL

But plenty of people doubted whether it was Gadaffi who was killed. Now everyone can see for themselves.

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Post by buddytaller Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:45 am

I don't think too much, I've learnt to read between the lies the US and the mass media tells in order to achieve their own selfish interests, America hasn't shed her Cold War mentality, and aims to rid the world of every form of socialist governance, America and her proxies waged senseless ideological wars in Vietnam and Cuba, just because they chose to be different.

And that is just what happened to brother leader, a victim of circumstances, he chose a path of African Unity and social development for his country after he took over the reigns of Libya in a bloodless coup from a monarchy, which was still in bed with Italy, helping her to impoverish Libya.

So many lies have been told about him without a shred of evidence. He chose to sell his nations oil to China instead of the United States and her allies, guess you don't mess with Big Brother, America has dictated to the rest of the world for ages and yet they hypocritically accuse others of same. They maintain the right of Veto in the UN security council and yet call for democracy in other nations, they have killed and maimed so many innocent civilians in Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, yet accuses other governments of same. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds, I didn't buy their lies about Iraq (which is worse off than it was in Saddam's time), I didn't buy it in Libya either.

I am against all forms of aggression, and believe the best way to achieve world peace is through diplomacy not lies and bombs. What has happened in Libya is nothing but shameful, it's despicable for anyone to be happy at the sight of a fellow human being being tortured to death, but sadly enough the mass media has turned a lot of people into blood thirsty psychopaths, who take great pleasure in seeing a fellow human being, being treated such an inhumane fashion.
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Post by buddytaller Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:57 am

elmystique wrote:coming to buddy_taller's aid a bit, I would say Ghanaians [at least whilst I was raised up there] have a good deal of respect for Ghadafi, his role in the formation of the OAU heeds this cause,

but where buddy_taller gets it wrong is he makes it seem like Ghanaians justify Ghadaffi's actions against his people as good.

Ghanaians are media propaganda-ed people, the treatment of most people flocking to the streets to see Ghadafi [or the brother-leader according to buddy] is more of the feed the eye's curiosity,

heck if even Osama bin Laden were to drive all the way from Afghanistan to Ghana whilst he were alive, he'd receive the same treatment from the people flocking to the streets to catch a glimpse of him as they'd do for Obama.

That does in no way reflect the general propaganda of Ghanaians for Ghadaffi's actions and neither does it for the government's cause.

I must point out that buddy_taller must have really been a big fan of Flt. Lft. J.J Rawling's PNDC Military Regime to view Ghaddafi's actions in good light or something because I know Rawlings was and is a very good friend of Ghaddafi.....

I do not believe 100% of Ghana supports Ghaddafi's actions and I doubt even buddy_taller even does, but we did admire Ghaddafi's though for what he did for the continent of Africa though...... not for what he did to his own Libyan people...

I'm not a fan of Rawlings, quite the opposite, I'm UP/NPP, but the truth must be told, were Blair, Obama, Sarkozy, Condoleeza Rice and Berlusconi fans of Gaddafi of "propagandaed" to kiss and hug Gaddafi in public.
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Post by TalkingReckless Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:59 am

buddytaller wrote:
I am against all forms of aggression, and believe the best way to achieve world peace is through diplomacy not lies and bombs. What has happened in Libya is nothing but shameful, it's despicable for anyone to be happy at the sight of a fellow human being being tortured to death, but sadly enough the mass media has turned a lot of people into blood thirsty psychopaths, who take great pleasure in seeing a fellow human being, being treated such an inhumane fashion.

Wasn't aggression and suppression the main force used by Gaddafi?????
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Post by buddytaller Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:08 am

Lord Spencer wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Lord Spencer wrote:
Ordinho10 wrote:Some people like Gaddafi some people didn't, can we just accept that already and stop insulting each other, especially buddytaller. Just because his opinion is different from yours dosen't give you the right to start insulting him, that is extremely childish.

But on a different note, if Gaddafi was going to be put on trial for war crimes, Bush and Blair should have been put on trial with him.

People who believe the world is flat deserve to be insulted.

The lies and propaganda buddytaller is sprouting is no different. He is an oblivious man, who would not see the truth if it slapped him in the face. Ghaddafi could have probably raped him and his family and he would still consider him a hero. Well, you know what, the rat and his family have been raping Libya for 42 years.

Jog it on Buddytaller, might as well go and support Congo now, you after all support the raping of a country, no reason not support the use of rape as a weapon of war.

Not spreading propaganda, it's my opinion of things which are shared by millions of Libyans, do you believe Gaddafi had no support in Libya? How would he have survived the many assassination attempts on him by the American government, did you watch the videos I posted, there were millions or at least hundreds of thousands cheering his speeches, were they forced at gun point to listen to Gaddafi speak, in the midst of a full blown crisis.

Disabuse your mind my dear, the world is not flat and Governments of the world's super powers don't have the best interest of countries like Libya at heart. Otherwise they would have resorted to diplomatic dialogue not bombs that sent a developing nation back to the stone age, funny how they preach democracy when they dictate to the world, VETO power et al. Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.

The population of Libya is 6.6 Million, I can't see how "millions" can turn up in a rally. Your "Facts" have been shown time and time again to be inaccurate and false.

What makes t he videos you post to be the truth and the real live feed 7ammod gives to be false. Have you met real Libyans or are you just imagining people.

Developing Nation, really, did you go to Libya or are you getting some information out of your ass. Apparently you do not understand simple logic and facts.

Please it's not polite to result to insults, not that it affects me anyway, but there are people out there who may be offended by your insults, I can't speak for 7ammod and his sources, but I believe the accounts Ghanaian returnees from Libya and the numerous videos I've posted in this thread, Gaddafi would have been long gone if he had no support in Libya. I gave an estimate based on the video which was also broadcasted on CNN, please rewatch the video in the link I posted, and that crowd was just those who came to hear him speak, there were still a lot more in other cities across Libya including his home city of Sirte, which has been bombed to ashes and turned into a ghost town.
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Post by buddytaller Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:15 am

imalegend wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
I am against all forms of aggression, and believe the best way to achieve world peace is through diplomacy not lies and bombs. What has happened in Libya is nothing but shameful, it's despicable for anyone to be happy at the sight of a fellow human being being tortured to death, but sadly enough the mass media has turned a lot of people into blood thirsty psychopaths, who take great pleasure in seeing a fellow human being, being treated such an inhumane fashion.

Wasn't aggression and suppression the main force used by Gaddafi?????

I don't support everything Gaddafi has done he has surely done some bad deeds, but they are not even close to what the likes of Bush and his cronies have done to the world Iraq, Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo,Afghanistan etc..
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Post by buddytaller Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:45 am

Just thought I should share this it's a bit offtopic. Trying not to sound too religious and controversial but this is a prophesy I read in TheTRUMPET, a Christian magazine about 5 YEARS ago, I didn't believe it then, but it strange how things have turned out!


http://www.thetrumpet.com/?q=2284.0.83.0

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Post by 7amood11 Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:57 am

Nobody WANTED a civil war. On February 17th and on the days that followed, protests broke out. Nobody had a knife, nobody had a gun, they were UNARMED protests. You know what happened to them? They were shot at, and tens of them were killed. I can even remember one night in early March when over 200 people were killed in a single night.

You say that you're against all forms of aggression, but then you condone this crap. Shows how much of a hypocrite you are.
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