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Post by Yuri Yukuv Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:01 pm

buddytaller wrote:
7amood11 wrote:buddytaller, throughout this thread you have had no valid argument, so please *bleep* off :coffee:.

metinsk wrote:Amood

Was Gaddafi screaming in that video "Allahu Ekber"?

No lol, Gaddafi probably isn't even Muslim...

When he was captured he was saying "What's wrong with you?". You can't hear him say it in the video, but he did say it.


My point is simple, Gaddafi is a revolutionary who took Libya from being among the poorest in the world to a little heaven in Africa, despite sanctions imposed on him. Which explained why about 20% of the population of Libya before the crisis was made up of foreign immigrants, mainly West Africans. He has consistently denied all the allegations against him, none of which has been proven, and to ease Libya back to international recognition after the sanctions were lifted, he agreed a multi-billion settlement for victims of the Pan-Am bombing incident, he was then visited by Blair, Rice and Berlusconi, he even sponsored Sarkozy in his campaign bid but all came to nothing.

On the continent he invested heavily in the economies of many poor African nations, in communications, agriculture etc, he helped Mandela and South Africa in their struggles for independence from the racist Apartheid regime, he was a founder and chief supporter of the African Union. He, being a pan-Africanist sought to unite Africans. But the West led by Obama, Sarkozy and their cronies waged an illegal war on Libya, they saw Gaddafi as a political and economic threat, the Arab spring sprung up, and the dollar signs started flashing in their eyes. They were quick to sign up Libya's oil resources even before the end of the world.

I can only speak for myself and I believe Gaddafi is an African hero (was given a hero's welcome in Ghana and South Africa) who sought to remove the slavish mentalities of some black Africans, who resisted racist sentiments among citizens of his own country and embraced all cultures and races into Libya, making her one of the fastest growing economies in the world.

And on the lies of democracy, Libya had a Peoples Assembly, which met and formed part of the decision making body of the country, they elected a Prime-minister who run the day to day affairs of Libya. If the west is so concerned about democracy, why don't they attack China, the world's biggest non-democratic nation, or Saudi Arabia, UAE etc who don't practice the western forms of governance.

On the demonstrations, it was clear that the protest started in Bengazi the home-city of the former rulers of Libya and the terrorist group LIFG. They started a demonstrating by burning government facilities such as police stations and looted arms, several police were killed, which government in the world would not react to such lawlessness? They were infiltrated by terrorists, Al-jazeera and other western news agency started a propaganda war, and without any investigations by the UN, "a no fly zone" was imposed on Libya to protect civilians, the no fly zone turned into a bomb parade and several military and civilian installments in Libya were bombed to dust, several civilians and soldiers were killed and a full civil war evolved. The rebels began a racial cleansing in Libya, targeting black Africans and executing them on weak allegations of them being mercenaries fighting for Gaddafi.

The west is sending a message to all leaders out there, never challenge the west, from Cuba to Venezuela and Vietnam, America has sought it's interest first before the interest of any other nation and Libya is no different, they are already siphoning Libya's oil, which would mean the average Libyan would no longer benefit from the social incentives instituted by the brother leader, no free water, electricity, health care ,cheap loans, sponsored foreign education etc. The rest of Africa, will lose the economic support, that Libya used to provide.

Very soon the terrorists and radical Islamists among the ranks of the NTC will begin to show their true colours, the Mediterranean would no longer be safe, people loyal to the Brother Leader would definitely seek revenge, as it stands things don't look for the once heaven in Africa.


LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL

Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.


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Post by Arquitecto Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:02 pm

Buddytaller, please tell me you are joking..
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Post by MJ Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:06 pm

No, okay. Libya was not a heaven in Africa. We need not delve into the matter. lol seriously tell me you're joking.
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:11 pm

Which people did Gaddafi kill, please watch this video, don't like repeating myself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNvCJCGU8NA



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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:18 pm

MJGunner wrote:No, okay. Libya was not a heaven in Africa. We need not delve into the matter. lol seriously tell me you're joking.

It was that was the tale the many Ghanaians who sold their possessions and traveled to Libya told us, they said there were a lot of good paying jobs, and as long as they kept within the laws of the nation they could earn enough to send some back home. Some though wanted to travel to Italy and were only transiting to Libya. Those who had the right documentations enjoyed the social benefits that I had afore mention. Let me repost the letter some Eastern Europeans wrote. It'll give you a clearer picture.




OPEN LETTER

President of the Russian Federation Medvedev DA

Prime Minister of Russian Federation VV Putin

from citizens of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia,

working and living in Libya

March 24, 2011, Tripoli, Libya

Dear Mr Medvedev and Vladimir Putin,

You said that citizens of the former Soviet Union were destined to become today citizens of different Slavic CIS countries - Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. Despite this, we all believe that it is Russia as successor to the USSR which is our SOLE safeguard for the interests of our countries and the security of our citizens. Therefore, we appeal to you for help and justice.

Today, there is blatant external aggression of USA and NATO against a sovereign country - Libya. And if anyone can doubt this, then we say this obvious fact is well known, because all this is happening before our eyes, and the actions of U.S. and NATO threaten the lives of not only the citizens of Libya, but to us who are on its territory. We are outraged by the barbaric bombing of Libya, which is currently carried out by a coalition of U.S. and NATO.

The bombing of Tripoli and other cities in Libya is aimed not only at the objects of air defense and Libya's Air Force and not only against the Libyan army, but also the object of military and civilian infrastructure. Today, 24 March 2011, NATO aircraft and the U.S. all night and all morning bombed a suburb of Tripoli - Tajhura (where, in particular, is Libya's Nuclear Research Center). Air Defence and Air Force facilities in Tajhura were destroyed back in the first 2 days of strikes and more active military facilities in the city remained, but today the object of bombing are barracks of the Libyan army, around which are densely populated residential areas, and next to it - the largest in Libya's Heart Centres. Civilians and the doctors could not assume that common residential quarters will be about to become destroyed, so none of the residents or hospital patients was evacuated.

Bombs and rockets struck residential houses and fell near the hospital. The glass of the Cardiac Center building was broken, and in the building of the maternity ward for pregnant women with heart disease a wall collapsed and part of the roof. This resulted in ten miscarriages whereby babies died, the women are in intensive care, doctors are fighting for their lives. We and our colleagues are working seven days a week, to save people. This is a direct consequence of falling bombs and missiles in residential buildings resulting in dozens of deaths and injuries, which are operated and reviewed now by our doctors. Such a large number of wounded and killed, as during today, did not result during the total of all the riots in Libya. And this is called "protecting the civilian population"?

With full responsibility as witnesses and participants of what is happening, we state that a genocide is thus being carried out by the United States and its allies against the Libyan people - as was the case in Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq. Crimes against humanity, carried out by coalition forces akin to those crimes committed by the fathers and grandfathers of today's Western leaders and their henchmen in Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan and in Dresden in Germany, where civilians were also being destroyed in order to deter, to break the will of the people to resist (Germany remembers it, and therefore refused to participate in this new slaughterhouse). Today they want in such ways to make the Libyan people surrender their leader and the legitimate government and meekly lay down their national oil wealth for the countries of the coalition.

We understand that applying to the "international community" to save the people of Libya and we were living in Libya, is useless. Our only hope - is Russia that has the right of veto in the UN, and specifically its leaders - the President and the Prime Minister.

We still hope for you, as hoped in the past, when we took the decision to stay in Libya, and to help its people, medical duty playing its role in the first place. After an abortive coup attempt in late February, the situation calmed down in Libya and the government had successfully restored order. To everyone in Libya, it was clear that without American intervention the country would soon return to normal life. Convinced that Russia, which has veto power, would not allow the aggression of the United States and its allies, we decided to stay in Libya, but were mistaken: Russia, unfortunately, believed the false assurances of Americans and did not oppose the criminal decision of France and the U.S.

We are Ukrainians, Russians and Belarusians, the people of various professions (mainly doctors), working in Libya for more than a year (from 2 to 20 years). During this time, we became well acquainted with the life of the Libyan people and state with few citizens of other nations living in this social comfort, as the Libyans. They are entitled to free treatment, and their hospitals provide the best in the world of medical equipment. Education in Libya is free, capable young people have the opportunity to study abroad at government expense. When marrying, young couples receive 60,000 Libyan dinars (about 50,000 U.S. dollars) of financial assistance. Non-interest state loans, and as practice shows, undated. Due to government subsidies the price of cars is much lower than in Europe, and they are affordable for every family. Gasoline and bread cost a penny, no taxes for those who are engaged in agriculture. The Libyan people are quiet and peaceful, are not inclined to drink, and are very religious. [Mathaba Editor note: Libyans average income far exceeds that of Russia. Yet Russia has veto power on the UN, not Libya].

Today, the people are suffering. In February, the peaceful life of the people was violated by gangs of criminals and insane drugged youth - whom the Western media for some reason called "peaceful demonstrators". These used weapons and attacked police stations, government agencies, military units - resulting in bloodshed. Those who direct them, pursue a clear objective - to create chaos and establish control over Libya's oil. They misinformed the international community, and said that the Libyans are struggling against the regime. Tell us, who would not like such a regime? If such a regime was in Ukraine or Russia, we would not have been here and worked and enjoyed the social comfort at home in our own countries and in every possible way such a regime would be maintained.

If the U.S. and the EU today have nothing to do, let them turn their attention to the plight of Japan, the Israeli bombing of Palestine, the audacity and impunity of Somali pirates, or the plight of Arab immigrants in France, and leave the Libyans themselves to sort out their internal problems.

We see that today in Libya they want to do another Iraq. Carrying out the genocide of an entire people and those who are found with him. We perform MEDICAL DEBT and can not leave Libyans alone in trouble, leaving them to destroy the forces of the coalition, in addition, we understand that when all the foreigners leave and no one will tell the truth (the small staff of diplomatic missions have long been silenced), the Americans will arrange here a bloodbath. And because our only chance of survival - is a solid civil position of Russia in the UN Security Council.

We hope that you, Mr. President, and you, Mr. Prime Minister, as citizens of Russia and as decent people will not allow American and European fascists of the 21st century to destroy the freedom-loving people of Libya and of those who today turned out to be with them.

We therefore urgently request that Russia uses its right of veto, the right earned by millions of lives of the Soviet people during World War II to stop the aggression against a sovereign state, to seek immediate cessation of U.S. and NATO bombing campaign and to demand the introduction of African Union troops in the conflict zone Libya.

[Note: The African Union Peace & Security Council delegates that had been accepted by both the Libyan government and the rebel leaders to mediate a peaceful solution between the various parties, were refused entry into Libya by the UN Security Council. This act should have been reprimanded by Russia and China, who should study the AU resolutions, mandate and support its wise decisions]

LIBYA HANDS OFF!

With respect and hope

your wisdom and honesty,

Citizens of Ukraine, Belarus and Russia,

located in Libya

Bordovsky S., Vasilenko, S., Vegerkina A., Henry IV, Henry H., L. Grigorenko, DraBragg, A., Drobot V. Drobot, N., Yemets E., Kolesnikova, T., Kuzin, I., Kuzmenko, B., Kulebyakin V. Kulmenko T., Nikolaev AG, Papelyuk V. Selizar V. Selizar About . Smirnov, O. Smirnova, R., Soloviev DA, Stadnik VA, Stolpakova T. Streschalin G. Stakhovich Yu, Sukacheva L. Sukachev V. Tarakanov, T., Tikhon N. Tikhonov VI, Tkachev AV, Hadareva E., Tchaikovsky, O., Chukhno D. Chukhno O. Yakovenko D. et al

The collection of signatures under the Appeal to the heads of Russia

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Post by TalkingReckless Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:25 pm

Libya wasn't made for Ghanaian it was made for the Libyan..... just cause you people are having it good there doesn't mean those who live there and are born there should live in that shit whole...

and how do you know the Ghanaian weren't lying they would have probably been kicked out if they said anything bad about Libya and Gaddafi
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:35 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:
LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL

Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
t

Don't be silly, the US gives more to Ghana than Libya does, my point is that Gaddafi represented the leader people here clamour for, a leader who against all odds will make the most use of the countries resources, provide free quality education, health and other social benefits, womens rights etc. Gaddafi did just that, go do a little research on the artificial rivers he built in Libya, and read about pre-Gaddafi Libya whilst you're at it.
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:40 pm

imalegend wrote:Libya wasn't made for Ghanaian it was made for the Libyan..... just cause you people are having it good there doesn't mean those who live there and are born there should live in that shit whole...

and how do you know the Ghanaian weren't lying they would have probably been kicked out if they said anything bad about Libya and Gaddafi

He did more for Libya than he did for the rest of Africa, there were a million immigrants in the nation of 6 million. That included eastern European health workers, Chinese constructors, Nigerian labourers etc. The economy was thriving and there was a construction boom, cars were heavily subsidised in Libya, that was why the rebels were seen driving in premium civilian vehicles. I could go on and on ....
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Post by Yuri Yukuv Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:42 pm

buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL

Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
t

Don't be silly, the US gives more to Ghana than Libya does, my point is that Gaddafi represented the leader people here clamour for, a leader who against all odds will make the most use of the countries resources, provide free quality education, health and other social benefits, womens rights etc. Gaddafi did just that, go do a little research on the artificial rivers he built in Libya, and read about pre-Gaddafi Libya whilst you're at it.

Buddy, ghaddafi did nothing. Oil is what did everything, the artificial river was just another pyramid project which he used to move some funds around.

Just compare libya to other oil exporting arab countries in the GCC, observe the huge difference in quality of life.
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:45 pm

Gaddafi had no support in Libya

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Post by 7amood11 Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:47 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL

Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
t

Don't be silly, the US gives more to Ghana than Libya does, my point is that Gaddafi represented the leader people here clamour for, a leader who against all odds will make the most use of the countries resources, provide free quality education, health and other social benefits, womens rights etc. Gaddafi did just that, go do a little research on the artificial rivers he built in Libya, and read about pre-Gaddafi Libya whilst you're at it.

Buddy, ghaddafi did nothing. Oil is what did everything, the artificial river was just another pyramid project which he used to move some funds around.

Just compare libya to other oil exporting arab countries in the GCC, observe the huge difference in quality of life.

This whole "discussion" should be done and dusted after that part in red, but unfortunately some people just don't understand.
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:48 pm

Yuri Yukuv wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL

Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
t

Don't be silly, the US gives more to Ghana than Libya does, my point is that Gaddafi represented the leader people here clamour for, a leader who against all odds will make the most use of the countries resources, provide free quality education, health and other social benefits, womens rights etc. Gaddafi did just that, go do a little research on the artificial rivers he built in Libya, and read about pre-Gaddafi Libya whilst you're at it.

Buddy, ghaddafi did nothing. Oil is what did everything, the artificial river was just another pyramid project which he used to move some funds around.

Just compare libya to other oil exporting arab countries in the GCC, observe the huge difference in quality of life.


Whatever the case maybe Libya was still the most prosperous African nation, a shame all the hard labour by Gaddafi and other Libyan have been turned into a pile of rubbles..
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:53 pm

Here are some finding I made on Libya at the beginning of the whole crisis,
haven't had time to edit it.

Do you know that before the chaos erupted, Libya had a lower incarceration rate than the Czech Republic? It ranked 61st. Libya had the lowest infant mortality rate of all of Africa? Libya had the highest life expectancy of all of Africa? Less than 5% of the population was undernourished. In response to the rising food prices around the world, the government of Libya abolished ALL taxes on food.

People in Libya were rich. Libya had the highest gross domestic product (GDP) at purchasing power parity (PPP) per capita of all of Africa. The government took care to ensure that everyone in the country shared in the wealth. Libya had the highest Human Development Index of any country on the continent. The wealth was distributed equally. In Libya, a lower percentage of people lived below the poverty line than in the Netherlands.
Do you know Libyans received free medical care, education and electricity? Literacy rate in Libya is the highest in North Africa? Any Libyan who wants to study abroad just needs to write a request and they receive a scholarship from the authorities. Do you know that 15 million cars are registered in Libya, a country with a population of 6 million? In general, these are expensive and good cars, and they have easy access to them because for a ÂŁ45000 car, you pay ÂŁ3,000 or ÂŁ4,000, and the rest is subsidized by the state.

Libyans lived an affluent lifestyle and were unwilling to do the menial jobs, which was left for the country’s 1 million immigrants (15% of the population). If Libya is a “hell hole” as is being portrayed by the media, why were so many foreign workers from all corners of the world ready to work there?

Gaddafi was not perfect, he had his short comings. But so did Bush and Blair who used various excuses to trick the world into supporting them in their invasion of Iraq. They tortured prisoners at Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay detention camp. They killed innocent civilians in Afghanistan and Iraq and still continue to do so. Last week NATO forces killed twelve 9 year olds in Afghanistan, a few days later they killed the cousin of the president. Yet the world remained in silence.

Why did no one call for a no fly zone when in 2006, Israel invaded Lebanon and killed over 1000 Lebanese civilians? If Israel could use the excuse of self defense against Hezbollah, why can’t Gaddafi do same?
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Post by 7amood11 Fri Oct 21, 2011 4:57 pm

A close relative of mine had a bunch of friends. They were accompanied by a person who worked under Gaddafi. One of them made a lame joke about shooting a plane out of the sky, and all 5 of them spent 3 years in jail, just because of a joke. Thousands of other examples of cruelty out there. We sure did live a happy life.

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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:00 pm

People I know lived in Libya and corroborated the facts I've laid down, Gaddafi was not the perfect leader he had his short comings, but I doubt Obama, Sarkozy, Cameron, Blair and Bush are better leaders.
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Post by 7amood11 Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:01 pm

Don't you people find it funny that almost EVERYTHING I've seen in Libya is against what buddytaller is saying?

He paints it as a prosperous nation, but when I go to Libya I see shitty hospitals, shitty education system, and the violation of freedom of speech, among many other things.

Libya's one of the biggest oil exporters in the world, yet when I go to Libya, I don't even come close to seeing the fruits of exporting so much oil.

Buddytaller, you're full of shit. Don't talk about my country when you've never been there.

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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:08 pm

Sirte before&after



http://vimeo.com/26481345

The truth is staring at our faces ....




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Post by RED Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:12 pm

Hiding in a sewer like a bitch, and when they got him out he said.."what have I ever done to you?" :facepalm:
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:20 pm

Please watch this before you demonise Gaddafi.

http://vimeo.com/26481345
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Post by MJ Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:23 pm

No one's tooting any Western leader's horns, we're just saying that the Libyans are better off without Gadhafi.
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Post by 7amood11 Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:25 pm

Devil-Is-Red wrote:Hiding in a sewer like a bitch, and when they got him out he said.."what have I ever done to you?" :facepalm:

Haha, what a humiliating ending for him. He called us rats in early March, but then look who's hiding in the sewers? Oh, the irony :facepalm:

I hoped that he could've made it out alive so he could face justice in front of the whole world, but oh well, this was a pretty epic ending as well Thumbs up

Yesterday's events will remain a great memory in my head forever.


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Post by Senor Penguin Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:25 pm

buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL

Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
t

Don't be silly, the US gives more to Ghana than Libya does, my point is that Gaddafi represented the leader people here clamour for, a leader who against all odds will make the most use of the countries resources, provide free quality education, health and other social benefits, womens rights etc. Gaddafi did just that, go do a little research on the artificial rivers he built in Libya, and read about pre-Gaddafi Libya whilst you're at it.

Buddy, ghaddafi did nothing. Oil is what did everything, the artificial river was just another pyramid project which he used to move some funds around.

Just compare libya to other oil exporting arab countries in the GCC, observe the huge difference in quality of life.


Whatever the case maybe Libya was still the most prosperous African nation, a shame all the hard labour by Gaddafi and other Libyan have been turned into a pile of rubbles..
Most prosperous in terms of ...? A lot of acknowledged indexes don't even list Libya (guess why) and those that do show it as a nation on-par with or below neighboring states.

One of the few indexes I could find where Libya were ahead of others was on the Human Development Index:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:27 pm

Supporting bombing of your "shitty" hospitals and schools will make Libya better.. tsk tsk tsk. <shaking my head>
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Post by 7amood11 Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:31 pm

Senor Penguin wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL

Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
t

Don't be silly, the US gives more to Ghana than Libya does, my point is that Gaddafi represented the leader people here clamour for, a leader who against all odds will make the most use of the countries resources, provide free quality education, health and other social benefits, womens rights etc. Gaddafi did just that, go do a little research on the artificial rivers he built in Libya, and read about pre-Gaddafi Libya whilst you're at it.

Buddy, ghaddafi did nothing. Oil is what did everything, the artificial river was just another pyramid project which he used to move some funds around.

Just compare libya to other oil exporting arab countries in the GCC, observe the huge difference in quality of life.


Whatever the case maybe Libya was still the most prosperous African nation, a shame all the hard labour by Gaddafi and other Libyan have been turned into a pile of rubbles..
Most prosperous in terms of ...? A lot of acknowledged indexes don't even list Libya (guess why) and those that do show it as a nation on-par with or below neighboring states.

One of the few indexes I could find where Libya were ahead of others was on the Human Development Index:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

I've BEEN THERE. I can tell you from first-hand experience that we are (unfortunately) very far away from being "prosperous". Yet for some reason, a kid sitting behind a computer screen thinks he knows better.
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Post by buddytaller Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:32 pm

Senor Penguin wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL

Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
t

Don't be silly, the US gives more to Ghana than Libya does, my point is that Gaddafi represented the leader people here clamour for, a leader who against all odds will make the most use of the countries resources, provide free quality education, health and other social benefits, womens rights etc. Gaddafi did just that, go do a little research on the artificial rivers he built in Libya, and read about pre-Gaddafi Libya whilst you're at it.

Buddy, ghaddafi did nothing. Oil is what did everything, the artificial river was just another pyramid project which he used to move some funds around.

Just compare libya to other oil exporting arab countries in the GCC, observe the huge difference in quality of life.


Whatever the case maybe Libya was still the most prosperous African nation, a shame all the hard labour by Gaddafi and other Libyan have been turned into a pile of rubbles..
Most prosperous in terms of ...? A lot of acknowledged indexes don't even list Libya (guess why) and those that do show it as a nation on-par with or below neighboring states.

One of the few indexes I could find where Libya were ahead of others was on the Human Development Index:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

A growing economy which supported a million immigrants (about 20%) of the population of Libyans a booming construction industry, new technologies to improve agriculture and make Libya less reliant on petroleum exports etc.. Thanks for sharing the wikipedia page which buttresses the facts I had earlier researched on.
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Post by Senor Penguin Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:55 pm

buddytaller wrote:
Senor Penguin wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
buddytaller wrote:
Yuri Yukuv wrote:
LoOoOoOoOoOoOoL

Eat your heart out, your sugar daddy is no more and libya is going to join the modern world. Keep hating on the US and all free people everywhere.

Oh btw, ghaddafi gave you the libyans money not his own. Hopefully the libyans will demand reparations from the africans, swiss and italian along with everyone else who took advantage of the US blockade to suck libyans money.
t

Don't be silly, the US gives more to Ghana than Libya does, my point is that Gaddafi represented the leader people here clamour for, a leader who against all odds will make the most use of the countries resources, provide free quality education, health and other social benefits, womens rights etc. Gaddafi did just that, go do a little research on the artificial rivers he built in Libya, and read about pre-Gaddafi Libya whilst you're at it.

Buddy, ghaddafi did nothing. Oil is what did everything, the artificial river was just another pyramid project which he used to move some funds around.

Just compare libya to other oil exporting arab countries in the GCC, observe the huge difference in quality of life.


Whatever the case maybe Libya was still the most prosperous African nation, a shame all the hard labour by Gaddafi and other Libyan have been turned into a pile of rubbles..
Most prosperous in terms of ...? A lot of acknowledged indexes don't even list Libya (guess why) and those that do show it as a nation on-par with or below neighboring states.

One of the few indexes I could find where Libya were ahead of others was on the Human Development Index:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index

A growing economy which supported a million immigrants (about 20%) of the population of Libyans a booming construction industry, new technologies to improve agriculture and make Libya less reliant on petroleum exports etc.. Thanks for sharing the wikipedia page which buttresses the facts I had earlier researched on.
Based on GDP growth, Libya cannot compete with many African countries and is far from being most prosperous in the region:
http://www.economywatch.com/economic-statistics/economic-indicators/GDP_Growth_Constant_Prices_National_Currency/2010/

There are also statistics for 2011 but it doesn't provide any data for Libya. Same thing when I try to find data on technological and agricultural investment for Libya - it's either scarce or non-existent.

So far I've been unable to find proper data confirming your belief that Libya was the most prosperous nation in Africa ...

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