Ballon D'or 2024

Bookmaker odds are now also part of the Madrid PR machine

One fanbase is entitled, the other is batshit insane.

Far too early to tell. But I feel Vini's best chances will be during non international championship years, so maybe 2025 is his year.

My mistake I thought it was a power ranking not bookie odds

Myesyats wrote:Mbappe and Vini are leading for Bdor 2025

Since when is this counted? Because they’ve been awful this season

Madrid Pr is already at it pic.twitter.com/wVyIcOIfPY

— Pain.???? (@GBarca_) October 30, 2024

Vini has not been awful lol he's been a shining light in this shit show of a season.

The Ballon d'Or is the benchmark
for the best player.

Rodri > Xavi, Pirlo, Iniesta, Riquelme... & so on...

guest_07 wrote:The Ballon d'Or is the benchmark
for the best player.

Rodri > Xavi, Pirlo, Iniesta, Riquelme... & so on...

If it was for actual best player ability-wise then Messi would have 14

Casillas lamented that no Spanish player won when they were dominating around 2008-2012 but his stupid ass was voting Ozil over Xavi/Iniesta at the same time...

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Barca fans hate Rossell/Bart and their administrations the most

We should have won at least 2 more CLs with Messi with better squad building

Their boards wasted several years of Messi's prime by failed transfers and appointing small club managers

Just realized CR has 5 CLs Messi 4... while Messi has 12 leagues n CR 7 Messi shouldnt were unlucky not to win more CLs...

Unlucky on what basis

elitedam wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Far too early to tell. But I feel Vini's best chances will be during non international championship years, so maybe 2025 is his year.

You think we're gonna be shit forever?

you don't?

Unlucky just I mean on him personally... in terms of CR winning 5 when Messi is the better player. I know Barca as a team got knocked out time n again when they really shouldnt have, still remember most of them, at least once by Atletico who did they same for that league title win when they held us in that final league game, vs Mous Inter, Chelsea 2012... I know ppl think often he didnt perform well enough especially the latter yrs vs Roma, etc. When CR has 5 Ballon D'ors 5 CL, while Messi has 8 but only half CL wins

BarcaLearning wrote:Unlucky just I mean on him personally... in terms of CR winning 5 when Messi is the better player. I know Barca as a team got knocked out time n again when they really shouldnt have, still remember most of them, at least once by Atletico who did they same for that league title win when they held us in that final league game, vs Mous Inter, Chelsea 2012... I know ppl think often he didnt perform well enough especially the latter yrs vs Roma, etc. When CR has 5 Ballon D'ors 5 CL, while Messi has 8 but only half CL wins

All these embarrassing comebacks and exits vs Roma, Liverpool etc were because the board refused to replace the mental midgets in the team, thus wasting Messi's prime years. Messi was still the best player each year but QF exit in CL made people vote for others

It also must be said that the real robbery was in 2020 when they canceled the award altogether because of covid and Lewandowski didn't get one

Vini Jr. lost the Ballon d’Or by just 41 POINTS.

• Rodri — 1170 points
• Vinicius Jr. — 1129 points

Players get points as per their position on a journalist’s top 10 list: 15, 12, 10, 8, 7, 5, 4, 3, 2 and 1 point. @lequipe pic.twitter.com/48J7Jc5wEV

— Madrid Zone (@theMadridZone) November 8, 2024

Proof these guys sabotaged Vinis chances of winning by having him either very low down on their lists or not even in the top 10

Vini sabotaged his own chances. It's just that people dont like his antics.

And since he is nowhere near as undeniable as CR7, they dont feel bad dropping him

But I'm sure there also were lots of journalists who didn't put Rodri in their top10...

Myesyats wrote:Vini sabotaged his own chances. It's just that people dont like his antics.

And since he is nowhere near as undeniable as CR7, they dont feel bad dropping him

But I'm sure there also were lots of journalists who didn't put Rodri in their top10...

These people shouldn’t be allowed to vote. At that point, they’re not just voting for who they think is the best but are actively trying to harm the chances of players they don’t like. We can disagree on who should win, but rational individuals generally agree on who the main contenders are. Not including Rodri or Vinicius in the top 8 should disqualify someone from the voting process ( I know this can't be enforced)

Myesyats wrote:Vini sabotaged his own chances. It's just that people dont like his antics.

And since he is nowhere near as undeniable as CR7, they dont feel bad dropping him

But I'm sure there also were lots of journalists who didn't put Rodri in their top10...

My technical error. I will resign from the Ballon d'Or jury.

— Juha Kanerva (@KanervaJP) November 9, 2024

I remember when Messi/cr were competing the same thing happened. No one was forced to resign then. RM salt is something else this time

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I remember when Messi/cr were competing the same thing happened. No one was forced to resign then. RM salt is something else this time

Rodri was left out by 5 journalists

anyone complains?

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I remember when Messi/cr were competing the same thing happened. No one was forced to resign then. RM salt is something else this time

Nobody forced this guy to resign

Considering he wasn't planning on resigning until he was named and shamed I'm sure he feels otherwise

He just had to stick to his principles and double down like that guy from El Salvador

Never back down even if proven wrong

With that mentality you can become president

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I remember when Messi/cr were competing the same thing happened. No one was forced to resign then. RM salt is something else this time

Spanish media representative was changed immediatelly after he voted Messi over Cronaldo.

halamadrid2 wrote:

Myesyats wrote:Vini sabotaged his own chances. It's just that people dont like his antics.

And since he is nowhere near as undeniable as CR7, they dont feel bad dropping him

But I'm sure there also were lots of journalists who didn't put Rodri in their top10...

My technical error. I will resign from the Ballon d'Or jury.

— Juha Kanerva (@KanervaJP) November 9, 2024

Sheefeni Nikodemus, my brother

Myesyats wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I remember when Messi/cr were competing the same thing happened. No one was forced to resign then. RM salt is something else this time

Rodri was left out by 5 journalists

anyone complains?

yes that's dumb. We're asking journalists to be good at their jobs and try to be objective, you know the goal of the actual profession they do for a living. They should strive for the least amount of bias while voting. This whole attitude thing is dumb and a cop out. You're acting like vini physically beats up his opponents on a daily basis