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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:07 pm

Just saw the award will be on 28th Oct, which seems to be a pretty weird date. The new format is done by UEFA n supposed to count the season '23-'24 n including the recent NT tourneys, but not the new upcoming season? I cant find info on details of the voting, so who n when is the deadline... since from experience, recent events definitely affects it.

Current odds seems to be led by Vini, then not far behind is now Rodri, then some distance off is Bellingham, n then likes of Messi, Yamal n some Real players Razz

What do u think?
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Post by Pedram Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:17 pm

1. Vinicius
2. Bellingham
3. Kroos
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:45 pm

1. Bellingham
2. Rodri
3. Lautaro
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Post by Myesyats Wed Jul 17, 2024 6:54 pm

Rodri should win it

Best and most dominant individual player currently
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Post by futbol_bill Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:12 pm

1. Vinicius
2. Bellingham
3. Rodri
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:12 pm

1. Rodri
2. The rest.
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Post by El Gunner Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:26 pm

Arquitecto wrote:1. Rodri
2. The rest.

very rarely do we agree with each other
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Post by farfan Wed Jul 17, 2024 7:30 pm

Rodri probably deserves it but I don't think he'll get it. He's not even getting the media hype that Jorginho got 3 years ago.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:42 pm

1. Lautaro
2. The rest

Going from Messi/CR to this crew feels like such a downgrade.
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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Jul 17, 2024 8:56 pm

Lol I think this has shown just how biased everyone here is Razz N why them captains in the past voted for their friends instead of the deserving Very Happy

Definitely quite interesting this time, feels like the real first one post Messi/CR n add the two tourneys in the mix Very Happy
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Post by Warrior Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:21 pm

Not that impressed by Bellingham tbh

Would give it to Rodri but i think Vinicius will get it
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Post by Vibe Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:22 pm

I feel Vini will get it, but personally I would rank him 3rd.
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Post by Pedram Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:32 pm

So many people here with recency bias. Laughing people forget Vinicius absolutely tormented defenses last season, just because his NT record is shit doesn't mean he shouldn't get Ballon d'Or.
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:38 pm

Vini
Dani
Jude
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Jul 17, 2024 9:39 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:1. Lautaro
2. The rest

Going from Messi/CR to this crew feels like such a downgrade.
Well Messi and Ronaldo were generational. None of these are
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Post by Clutch Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:30 am

The fact that brazil didn't win copa bc vini didn't play is more of a reason why he should win lol

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Post by neuro11 Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:18 am

I am happy as long as the Bellingham, the media fraud does not get it. I believe Vini deserve it the most. Rodri seems to be the Jorginho version when Messi won even though Rodri is getting slightly higher pole position than him ex being first in Goal power ranking, Jorginho was second.

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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 29, 2024 6:06 am



The push for Rodri is nauseating
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:15 am

halamadrid2 wrote:  

The push for Rodri is nauseating
Rodri has same seasonal performance rating as Vicinius in league, cl and Euro combined. But Rodri has played more which should put him ahead of Vicinius. But Bellingham has been better than both.

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Should be Bellingham, could be Rodri, Vicinius would be travesty.
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Post by Myesyats Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:21 am

I mean Hala you say this but at the same time Vinicius is completely irrelevant NT-wise

If you've watched the actual games then you'd know stats lie. They almost lost the trophy when Rodri came off injured that's how commanding he was
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:25 am

Vini didn't even play the quater final and Brazil were absolutely useless without him. They could've won against Colombia if the Argie VAR didn't rob him of a penalty. That would've put them against Panama instead of Uruguay

Rodri's importance is overstated and the stats show it. Give me a break. I always knew his defensive stats were meh and he was basically hyped for bagging a few goals and passing the ball 200 times.

All these years in which Casemiro did everything better than Rodri bar passing and there was never a bwlon dor push for him.

They are trying so hard to push Rodri for Balon d'or over Vini. They are not even hiding it
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:33 am

Harmonica wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:  

The push for Rodri is nauseating
Rodri has same seasonal performance rating as Vicinius in league, cl and Euro combined. But Rodri has played more which should put him ahead of Vicinius. But Bellingham has been better than both.

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Should be Bellingham, could be Rodri, Vicinius would be travesty.
I suppose based on that Bellingham deserved to be Euro player of the tournament?
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Post by Harmonica Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:42 am

halamadrid2 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:  

The push for Rodri is nauseating
Rodri has same seasonal performance rating as Vicinius in league, cl and Euro combined. But Rodri has played more which should put him ahead of Vicinius. But Bellingham has been better than both.

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Should be Bellingham, could be Rodri, Vicinius would be travesty.
I suppose based on that Bellingham deserved to be Euro player of the tournament?
Well yes, of those three he played the best, but the difference isn't that big. Only times Ballon d'Or has gone to the best rated player, is when Messi (or Benzema) won it. Popularity or tituleros also plays a part. Excluding popularity I just don't see why Vicinius should win it, because if you appreciate Euro/Copa more, Rodri should win. But if you don't Vicinius still shouldn't win it because Bellingham played in the same team, and had better Euro/Copa.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jul 29, 2024 9:50 am

Harmonica wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Rodri has same seasonal performance rating as Vicinius in league, cl and Euro combined. But Rodri has played more which should put him ahead of Vicinius. But Bellingham has been better than both.

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Should be Bellingham, could be Rodri, Vicinius would be travesty.
I suppose based on that Bellingham deserved to be Euro player of the tournament?
Well yes, of those three he played the best, but the difference isn't that big. Only times Ballon d'Or has gone to the best rated player, is when Messi (or Benzema) won it. Popularity or tituleros also plays a part. Excluding popularity I just don't see why Vicinius should win it, because if you appreciate Euro/Copa more, Rodri should win. But if you don't Vicinius still shouldn't win it because Bellingham played in the same team, and had better Euro/Copa.
Vini was the standout player at RM when he wasn't injured and dragged us to a CL win more or less. All hie teammates including Jude have said that he deserves the balon d'or based on last season.

International competitions is obviously not as good as club football and even then Rodri was nothing special playing for a team that steamrolled every team bar Germany. Again the push for Rodri is pathetic.

This balon d'or is between Vini, Jude and Carvajal (who btw has a much bigger claim for balon dor than Rodri)
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Post by Vibe Mon Jul 29, 2024 10:38 am

I think Bellingham is the one and only.

However these awards lost any merit a long time ago. The only standard should be performance over a season, but you have recency bias, popularity contests, politics, national bias...
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