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Post by Ali Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:47 am

Hip Hop Is Dead and Untitled duds?! Really?
I guess everyone has their opinions.

I guess I'll need to give Dom a listen, give me his best track and listen to Nocturnal Rainbows

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Post by Ali Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:49 am

only classic albums ever made :

Pacs discography.

lol I'm a biased fan don't blame me
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:51 am

ali8775 wrote:only classic albums ever made :

Pacs discography.

lol I'm a biased fan don't blame me

Lol it's fair enough, Pac is one of the GOAT'S.

You talk about complete and diverse and able to change styles? I represent the king of such.....



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Post by Ali Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:56 am

LL is a GREAT person btw, even outside of rap!
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Post by dmize Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:03 am

ali8775 wrote:Hip Hop Is Dead and Untitled duds?! Really?
I guess everyone has their opinions.

I guess I'll need to give Dom a listen, give me his best track and listen to Nocturnal Rainbows

Ok, I'll give you Untitled, but HHID and Nastradamus are certified duds.

Edit:
this Curren$y and Dom Kennedy track just dropped, it's pretty dope

The Official Rap Thread part 1 - Page 3 Watch?v=Bz4PnM1Jsto

Check out the Original Dom Kennedy mixtape, and he's got another one dropping soon I think.

I have Nocturnal Rainbows just haven't checked it out yet, but I will.
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Post by Ali Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:20 am

@dmize wrote:
ali8775 wrote:Hip Hop Is Dead and Untitled duds?! Really?
I guess everyone has their opinions.

I guess I'll need to give Dom a listen, give me his best track and listen to Nocturnal Rainbows

Ok, I'll give you Untitled, but HHID and Nastradamus are certified duds.

Edit:
this Curren$y and Dom Kennedy track just dropped, it's pretty dope

The Official Rap Thread part 1 - Page 3 Watch?v=Bz4PnM1Jsto

Check out the Original Dom Kennedy mixtape, and he's got another one dropping soon I think.

I have Nocturnal Rainbows just haven't checked it out yet, but I will.


10/16 were great on HHID . Nastradamus SUCKED I'll agree, but it has a few gems on it.

Dawg this can't be Dom Kennedys BEST is it ?!
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Post by dmize Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:32 am

ali8775 wrote:
@dmize wrote:
ali8775 wrote:Hip Hop Is Dead and Untitled duds?! Really?
I guess everyone has their opinions.

I guess I'll need to give Dom a listen, give me his best track and listen to Nocturnal Rainbows

Ok, I'll give you Untitled, but HHID and Nastradamus are certified duds.

Edit:
this Curren$y and Dom Kennedy track just dropped, it's pretty dope

The Official Rap Thread part 1 - Page 3 Watch?v=Bz4PnM1Jsto

Check out the Original Dom Kennedy mixtape, and he's got another one dropping soon I think.

I have Nocturnal Rainbows just haven't checked it out yet, but I will.


10/16 were great on HHID . Nastradamus SUCKED I'll agree, but it has a few gems on it.

Dawg this can't be Dom Kennedys BEST is it ?!

Did I say that, it's a track that just dropped. It's his newest so I posted it. Check out Original Dom Kennedy or Future Street Drug Sounds.

And 10/16, lol. Hold Down The Block is the best track on the album, besides that there's, Black Republican, HipHop is Dead, Blunt Ashes, Hustlers and maybe 1or 2 I'm forgetting. So 6/7 out of 16.
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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:44 am

@dmize wrote:
ali8775 wrote:
@dmize wrote:
ali8775 wrote:Hip Hop Is Dead and Untitled duds?! Really?
I guess everyone has their opinions.

I guess I'll need to give Dom a listen, give me his best track and listen to Nocturnal Rainbows

Ok, I'll give you Untitled, but HHID and Nastradamus are certified duds.

Edit:
this Curren$y and Dom Kennedy track just dropped, it's pretty dope

The Official Rap Thread part 1 - Page 3 Watch?v=Bz4PnM1Jsto

Check out the Original Dom Kennedy mixtape, and he's got another one dropping soon I think.

I have Nocturnal Rainbows just haven't checked it out yet, but I will.


10/16 were great on HHID . Nastradamus SUCKED I'll agree, but it has a few gems on it.

Dawg this can't be Dom Kennedys BEST is it ?!

Did I say that, it's a track that just dropped. It's his newest so I posted it. Check out Original Dom Kennedy or Future Street Drug Sounds.

And 10/16, lol. Hold Down The Block is the best track on the album, besides that there's, Black Republican, HipHop is Dead, Blunt Ashes, Hustlers and maybe 1or 2 I'm forgetting. So 6/7 out of 16.

I think "Carry On Tradition" edges it for best track on the album. The ones you mentioned were all nice, but I felt underwhelmed with "Black Republican".

As for "Nastradamus", it was certainly his weakest album. Tracks like "Come Get Me" and "Family" were great, but he tried to expand his market too much. The seeds were well planted on "I Am", perhaps he should have learned from that.
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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:50 am

ali8775 wrote:here is our heaven for the hip hop heads to talk about ANYTHING rap related..
what I'm thinking right now is that Nas > Jay-Z

agree / disagree ?

My overall opinion is that Jay has the better flow (although not his original style), yet Nas is lyrically on another level.

Having said that, I rate "Takeover" better than "Ether" as the primary diss tracks. "Dont You Know" and "Super Ugly" were both subpar, nothing compared to the "Stillmatic" freestyle.

I don't really consider "Blueprint 2" as a track in the battle, even though it did take target.
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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:59 am

@zizzle wrote:jay Z = crap. i cant understand what the hype is all about, but for some reason the media keeps shoving that bullcrap down our throats

to me, 2pac, big pun, big L, Rakim, Nas >>>>> Jay Z



edit: i found this jewel today. best shit i've heard in years


I could throw in a few more names, but I still think Jay has earned his spot as one of the big boys. I actually feel his discography isn't that great (many of his albums are too diverse), but his talent from track to track is worthy of the talk.

"American Gangster" had some nice joints on there, but he's well moved on with his career and his content.
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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:02 am

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
milanista99 wrote:2pac=God

/thread

I prefer Biggie, GZA and Cube to Pac.

Await's the neg reps Very Happy

"Liquid Swords" is an incredible album. I often have a hard time deciding which Wu member made the best debut between Ghost and Raekwon actually.
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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:12 am

ali8775 wrote:DMX has more then 2 albums worth of material.

Wu Tang is some of the most over-rated groups ever.

Wu-Tang overrated? Not only can they release great albums as individuals, but their group albums are usually top shelf. I shouldn't need to discuss the influence of "Enter the Wu-Tang" on the genre, among others.

I agree that DMX is quality. His first 3 albums were quite good, but his latter efforts did drop in standard by the year.
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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:17 am

@KMD wrote:AZ is the most underrated.... he's in my top 5....
”I stay in tune with the sun, stars and moon, cause behind bars you're doomed if your mind can't consume”
eminem even admitted to rip off his style


Good call on AZ. Not sure if you've followed my posts in the past, but he's usually in my top 5 too. What do you think of Cormega?
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Post by dmize Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:23 am

@adnyana179 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
milanista99 wrote:2pac=God

/thread

I prefer Biggie, GZA and Cube to Pac.

Await's the neg reps Very Happy

"Liquid Swords" is an incredible album. I often have a hard time deciding which Wu member made the best debut between Ghost and Raekwon actually.

You mean between Ironman and OB4CL? I definitely take OB4CL, but if you ask me to pick between Supreme Clientele and OB4CL, it's a little tougher.

edit: welcome back you were gone for a while weren't you?
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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:37 am

Immaculate_Mole wrote:
ali8775 wrote:only classic albums ever made :

Pacs discography.

lol I'm a biased fan don't blame me

Lol it's fair enough, Pac is one of the GOAT'S.

You talk about complete and diverse and able to change styles? I represent the king of such.....



Uncle L need's some love.

Man, since I joined the old forum I swear we've discussed LL numerous times and you always post that track lol. Some don't even admit to his longevity and influence in the early days, but I guess they were misled by albums like "Todd Smith" and "10".


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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:42 am

@dmize wrote:
@adnyana179 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:
milanista99 wrote:2pac=God

/thread

I prefer Biggie, GZA and Cube to Pac.

Await's the neg reps Very Happy

"Liquid Swords" is an incredible album. I often have a hard time deciding which Wu member made the best debut between Ghost and Raekwon actually.

You mean between Ironman and OB4CL? I definitely take OB4CL, but if you ask me to pick between Supreme Clientele and OB4CL, it's a little tougher.

edit: welcome back you were gone for a while weren't you?

Yeah, I was out for about 2 weeks and figured I'd jump back in. Lurked from time to time, but will be sure to catch up on the music thread. First week was a vacation, while this past week was all work. I'll probably still be on and off for a while more.

On topic, I have days where I think "Ironman" is better than Raekwon's effort. Other days, I wonder how I think so but I guess that's why I often have a hard time posting a definite top 5 or top 10.


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Post by KMD Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:46 am

@adnyana179 wrote:
@KMD wrote:AZ is the most underrated.... he's in my top 5....
”I stay in tune with the sun, stars and moon, cause behind bars you're doomed if your mind can't consume”
eminem even admitted to rip off his style


Good call on AZ. Not sure if you've followed my posts in the past, but he's usually in my top 5 too. What do you think of Cormega?

mega? mega!... whatever Very Happy I like him but i felt as his albums been the same and he just repeats it over and over !!! Kind of like AZ (ignoring the pop route) but his rhyme scheme is just incredible! But i still listen and respect mega for keeping it true hip hop.

the original firm was bad ass.... even with foxy on Affirmative action
""Life's a Bitch," but God-forbid the bitch divorce me
I'll be flooded with ice so hellfire can't scorch me"

though nothing beats esco and az on a track!


on another note, for me Nas >>> BIG
illmatic and it was written beat biggies 2 albums....

"You got a House in Virginia
The only way you sicker than us"
that dude is a genius at times





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Post by justdoit_ Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:50 am

Everybody goes into the game alone these days, not enough love in this thread or in the industry as a whole for groups who could alternate verses with unbelievable wit and cohesion, something that could take their sound past the barriers of what only one man could do; I'm talking about The Sugarhill Gang, Cypress Hill, NWA.
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Post by zizzle Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:58 am

britch rap anyone ?
not as legendry as the names we've been discussing, but this guy has some sick imagination. sick punshiles and so many quatable lines


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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:05 am

@KMD wrote:
@adnyana179 wrote:
@KMD wrote:AZ is the most underrated.... he's in my top 5....
”I stay in tune with the sun, stars and moon, cause behind bars you're doomed if your mind can't consume”
eminem even admitted to rip off his style


Good call on AZ. Not sure if you've followed my posts in the past, but he's usually in my top 5 too. What do you think of Cormega?

mega? mega!... whatever Very Happy I like him but i felt as his albums been the same and he just repeats it over and over !!! Kind of like AZ (ignoring the pop route) but his rhyme scheme is just incredible! But i still listen and respect mega for keeping it true hip hop.

the original firm was bad ass.... even with foxy on Affirmative action
""Life's a Bitch," but God-forbid the bitch divorce me
I'll be flooded with ice so hellfire can't scorch me"

though nothing beats esco and az on a track!


on another note, for me Nas >>> BIG
illmatic and it was written beat biggies 2 albums....

"You got a House in Virginia
The only way you sicker than us"
that dude is a genius at times





I actually wasn't that big on "Zone Out", but that shot at Cam was clever. I've been waiting for a Nas / AZ album for years (Dmize will back me up lol), but no one can deny their chemistry. While they collaborate in a different way, I think Jada and Styles are pretty close to them.

I think if "It Was Written" was the debut album and "Illmatic" never existed, Nas would still be heralded as one of the best out from the 90s. I think the album is that good. His pre-Illmatic material is immense too, you can really see where he got the drive for the album.
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Post by Ali Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:49 am

@zizzle wrote:britch rap anyone ?
not as legendry as the names we've been discussing, but this guy has some sick imagination. sick punshiles and so many quatable lines



I agree, hes good GREAT! Hyperaptive is another british rapper I enjoy

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Post by M99 Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:46 am

Wu Tang Clan overrated? GTFO.

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Post by M99 Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:48 am

BTW kudos to Ali for creating this, rename it to Thugz Mansion or Gangsta's Paradise The Official Rap Thread part 1 - Page 3 3176931354



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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:18 pm

Posting a few of my favourites from Nas.

"New rap recruits I salute then delete 'em
Verbally eat 'em, because my ears don't need 'em"

"Already I'm ill but I can only get better
With lyrics as pretty as a nickel-plated Beretta"



"The highlights of livin, Vegas style roll dice in linen
Antera spinnin on Milleniums, twenty G bets I'm winnin them
Threats I'm sendin them, Lex with TV sets the minimum
Ill sex adrenaline"



"What you call an infinite brawl, eternal souls clashin
War gets deep, some beef is everlastin"




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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:31 pm

I am i the only one who likes Stillmatic?

Because i really feel like that sometime's i feel its a rather underrated album.
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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:47 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:I am i the only one who likes Stillmatic?

Because i really feel like that sometime's i feel its a rather underrated album.

I think that album is very good, I'd say his 3rd best album.

After the disappointment with "Nastradamus" and the conflict with Jay, he really needed to deliver and he did so.
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