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Post by adnyana179 Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:47 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:I am i the only one who likes Stillmatic?

Because i really feel like that sometime's i feel its a rather underrated album.

I think that album is very good, I'd say his 3rd best album.

After the disappointment with "Nastradamus" and the conflict with Jay, he really needed to deliver and he did so.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:47 pm

JAY-Z Overrated?

GTFO !

He is one of the best to ever bless a mic ffs.......

Download his first 4 album's and Bluerprint, The Black Album and American Gangster and come back and say that.



















Yh overrated Rolling Eyes
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Post by guest7 Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:16 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:JAY-Z Overrated?

GTFO !

He is one of the best to ever bless a mic ffs.......

Download his first 4 album's and Bluerprint, The Black Album and American Gangster and come back and say that.



















Yh overrated Rolling Eyes

+11111111100000000000000000000000

I just read the thread... SERIOUSLY, JAY-Z??????
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Post by M99 Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:35 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:I am i the only one who likes Stillmatic?

Because i really feel like that sometime's i feel its a rather underrated album.

Stillmatic underrated? I don't think so, it's rated quite highly and I like it a lot.
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Post by M99 Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:38 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:JAY-Z Overrated?

GTFO !

He is one of the best to ever bless a mic ffs.......

Download his first 4 album's and Bluerprint, The Black Album and American Gangster and come back and say that.



















Yh overrated Rolling Eyes

It's funny how you left out two of his best songs Razz





But still, Nas>>>>>>>>Jay Z The Official Rap Thread part 1 - Page 4 2859867778

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:20 pm

milanista99 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:JAY-Z Overrated?

GTFO !

He is one of the best to ever bless a mic ffs.......

Download his first 4 album's and Bluerprint, The Black Album and American Gangster and come back and say that.



















Yh overrated Rolling Eyes

It's funny how you left out two of his best songs Razz





But still, Nas>>>>>>>>Jay Z The Official Rap Thread part 1 - Page 4 2859867778


Yh i was mainly just picking a couple of songs from Reasonable Doubt, Blueprint, The Black Album and American Gangster.

And i find the Nas and Jay-Z debate extremely debateable i personally it's a matter of what you prefer i often flip-flop between the two....

Both are in my all time top 10 though.
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Post by guest7 Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:29 pm



i love the guitar in this song lmao
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Post by Ali Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:28 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:I am i the only one who likes Stillmatic?

Because i really feel like that sometime's i feel its a rather underrated album.

I like it more then Illmatic tbh , it's such a fantastic album.

Thanks for the kudos bro Very Happy

can someone explain something to me? Hopsin dissed Eazy-Es wife...why hasn't Lil Eazy - E responded? she is his mother after all :?:
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Post by shaven Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:26 pm

milanista99 wrote:

But still, Nas>>>>>>>>Jay Z The Official Rap Thread part 1 - Page 4 2859867778



i never doubted that!!!
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Post by dmize Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:14 pm

Laughing @ 99 problems being one of Jay's best songs, I agree with Dead Presidents II though







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Post by dmize Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:17 pm

ali8775 wrote:
can someone explain something to me? Hopsin dissed Eazy-Es wife...why hasn't Lil Eazy - E responded? she is his mother after all :?:

What a dick move, and it's his widow. See, sh1t like that just further proves this Hopsin dude is a lame. Who goes and disses the relatives of a deceased legend?
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:32 pm

Reasonable Doubt........now that's a classic.

Better than Blueprint imo.
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Post by KMD Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:34 pm



this is my fav song from jay z

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Post by dmize Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:43 pm

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Reasonable Doubt........now that's a classic.

Better than Blueprint imo.

Yeah for me too.



And Blueprint 2 was just alright but I love this song(even though he disses Nas), especially the beat.

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Post by JAY-Z Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:33 pm

The big picture album from BIG L,is one of the best albums i've ever listened.Illmatic is the one which i rate higher, Nas is so classy.Black on both sides from Mos Def is an epic album too.Jay Z has done so much things for rap I think that he is in the top 10 of all time, all around MC.The battle with Nas as Mole said is debatable, in my opinion NAS has won it(question of taste)..
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Post by adnyana179 Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:13 am

What did you all think of the "Roc La Familia" album?
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Post by adnyana179 Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:17 am

dmize wrote:Laughing @ 99 problems being one of Jay's best songs, I agree with Dead Presidents II though

Even though it wasn't on the album, I think the original "Dead Presidents" is the better. I remember the hype going around when a third version got leaked.
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Post by adnyana179 Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:27 am

Immaculate_Mole wrote:Reasonable Doubt........now that's a classic.

Better than Blueprint imo.

Definitely his best two albums. They were different styles, but he made them both work.

I feel like his worst was "Vol. 3", both he and Nas dropped subpar efforts that year. 2000 came the group / collaboration albums, then the clash in '01. They really mirrored each other throughout the rivalry.
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Post by adnyana179 Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:31 am

metinsk wrote:The big picture album from BIG L,is one of the best albums i've ever listened.Illmatic is the one which i rate higher, Nas is so classy.Black on both sides from Mos Def is an epic album too.Jay Z has done so much things for rap I think that he is in the top 10 of all time, all around MC.The battle with Nas as Mole said is debatable, in my opinion NAS has won it(question of taste)..

I've come to know you as a genuine Big L fan. The guy was ridiculously talented, I don't think any other artist has made so many killer punchlines, one of the most humorous to ever do it (along with Cam).


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Post by dmize Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:19 am

adnyana179 wrote:
dmize wrote:Laughing @ 99 problems being one of Jay's best songs, I agree with Dead Presidents II though

Even though it wasn't on the album, I think the original "Dead Presidents" is the better. I remember the hype going around when a third version got leaked.

Yeah, I think I read you saying that before, and you might be right. I heard the first version(I wanna say it came out way after RD) after I heard DP II, so I think that's why I prefer DP II.
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Post by dmize Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:23 am

adnyana179 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Reasonable Doubt........now that's a classic.

Better than Blueprint imo.

Definitely his best two albums. They were different styles, but he made them both work.

I feel like his worst was "Vol. 3", both he and Nas dropped subpar efforts that year. 2000 came the group / collaboration albums, then the clash in '01. They really mirrored each other throughout the rivalry.

Yeah to me Vol.3 and Kingdom Come are both trash.

Roc La Familia is pretty great imo, not classic but a good album although I know some feel otherwise.
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Post by adnyana179 Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:57 am

dmize wrote:
adnyana179 wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:Reasonable Doubt........now that's a classic.

Better than Blueprint imo.

Definitely his best two albums. They were different styles, but he made them both work.

I feel like his worst was "Vol. 3", both he and Nas dropped subpar efforts that year. 2000 came the group / collaboration albums, then the clash in '01. They really mirrored each other throughout the rivalry.

Yeah to me Vol.3 and Kingdom Come are both trash.

Roc La Familia is pretty great imo, not classic but a good album although I know some feel otherwise.

Yeah, I remember posting similar in the old forum. It feels a little strange with all of this Jigga talk, since I've at times felt like I was defending Jay from you and THC lol.

I think the album had a lot of positives (especially the impact of Freeway and Beans), but I can't say it had any defining tracks. The best I think was "Where Have You Been", it was so personal.



Nice track from Bleek too, one of his best (along with "My Mind Right" from that same year).



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Post by zizzle Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:06 am

so this turned into the official jay z thread ? how about some different names, like Chino XL, no one mentioned him so far evernthough he's the best punsh line rapper ever


this line is just...

"and i still dont speak / i hate people more and more each day but today i hate them like its next week"

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Post by adnyana179 Sun Jul 24, 2011 4:09 am

zizzle wrote:so this turned into the official jay z thread ? how about some different names, like Chino XL, no one mentioned him so far evernthough he's the best punsh line rapper ever


this line is just...

"and i still dont speak / i hate people more and more each day but today i hate them like its next weak"


Chino XL and Big L are definitely 2 of the best (if not top 2) for punchlines. Some might throw names like Banks and Canibus, but I wouldn't put them that high up.

We had a punchline thread before, perhaps we should bring it back?

On Jay, I'm all for a variety of artists but I guess his presence in the thread sparked the most debate.
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Post by dmize Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:00 am

I never really got into Chino XL completely but this song is lyrically one of the sickest I've heard:

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