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Post by Myesyats on Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:48 am

And Dembele looks as braindead as ever, the ultimate deceivement defraudation by Hans :bow:

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Post by alexjanosik on Thu Sep 17, 2020 7:54 pm

A 4-2-3-1 with Messi as the most forward player. Griezman behind but moving to accomodate Messi's movement.
Recipe for disaster.
Also, it seems Koeman's top pivot is Busquets and FDJ :facepalm:
Nothing's changed.

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Post by Winter is Coming on Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:01 pm

Has the motion passed? Pretty sure I read that we got more then enough signatures.
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Post by Myesyats on Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:08 am

They have collected more than 20,000 signatures while 16,250 are needed. Allowing for a number of invalid votes, the treshold should be comfortably crossed.

I hope Bartomeu gets what he deserves and has to answer for the Club's deficit from his own pocket.
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Post by Myesyats on Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:10 am

@alexjanosik wrote:A 4-2-3-1 with Messi as the most forward player. Griezman behind but moving to accomodate Messi's movement.
Recipe for disaster.
Also, it seems Koeman's top pivot is Busquets and FDJ :facepalm:
Nothing's changed.

I think with Pjanic available, Busquets will be dropped

Hope to see Araujo-Lenglet with Pique on the bench too.
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Post by neuro11 on Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:38 am

Would you guys mind saying where you watch these preseason friendlies live? I know some sites upload the recorded game but I get bored of watching recorded games.

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Post by Myesyats on Sat Sep 19, 2020 12:27 pm

https://twitter.com/FTTV10/status/1307354009171361792

you can watch the game here ^
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Post by danyjr on Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:07 pm

Can't believe it is 2020-21 and I still see Busquets in the starting line-up Laughing

Guys should have been demoted 2-3 years ago.
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Post by alexjanosik on Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:33 pm

All the players involved in the 8-2 play.
Koreman talking about winning the ball back. Messi walking with the ball 5 yards from him Laughing

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Post by danyjr on Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:41 pm

Griezmann has got to be the worst passer in this team. Poor accuracy, wrong weight, consistently.
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Post by alexjanosik on Sat Sep 19, 2020 1:45 pm

That shape. Griezman running all over the place to plug gaps :facepalm:

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Post by danyjr on Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:05 pm

You could play against Bayern tomorrow and it will be 8-2 again.
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Post by alexjanosik on Sat Sep 19, 2020 2:27 pm

Dembele comes on and immediately creates danger. I know a lot don't like him but he is extremely dangerous. I think when fit, he has been quite good.

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Post by Myesyats on Sat Sep 19, 2020 5:53 pm

New kits are sexy but the team is shit so there's that. Komean giving Roberto the starting spot says it all

Sacked within 6 months imo
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:23 am

in the 2nd half vs elche Messi was playing as the highest man up the pitch and I think that's the way to go. Koeman should instruct him not to drop too deep because it disrupts the entire flow.

Pjanic-Frenkie
Trincao-Griezmann-Coutinho
-----------Messi-------------

let others be more creative
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Post by danyjr on Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:59 am

I didn't watch much of the game, but one positive from it was no Messi-dependencia. Players weren't constantly looking for Messi to pass to and every player had the same value on the pitch. Hadn't seen that in like 5 years.

Of course there were also a lot of negatives. You played a very inefficient game with a lot of wasteful running just to cover the gaps in the formation. Against a better/faster team you will be punished.
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:13 pm

A lot of it is due to Messi strolling around. Obviously a well-prepared athletic team will run circles around us if our main man is in the middle of the pitch just hanging around unbothered and not even trying to press. Having him near the box and letting others do the running in the centre is more beneficial, still makes us vulnerable but as long as Messi is here I don't see any other options.

I re-watched the 2nd half today and Messi did zero running. That's like a playing a man down tbh.
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Post by Arquitecto on Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:46 pm

Anyone have any notes on Pjanic? How he is being used and how he has been so far in training and pre season?
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Post by Myesyats on Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:53 pm

He hasnt trained much given that he had Covid and was sidelined.

Had like 2 training sessions with the team and played about 30 minutes only.

Too early to judge but seems like Rakitic 2.0..... just 2 years younger. Good player but won't elevate the team by much. Need someone younger with lots of energy a la Camavinga.

I don't understand why we're not fighting for Aouar and Camavinga. That's midfield set for years to come.
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Post by alexjanosik on Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:47 pm

@Myesyats wrote:A lot of it is due to Messi strolling around. Obviously a well-prepared athletic team will run circles around us if our main man is in the middle of the pitch just hanging around unbothered and not even trying to press. Having him near the box and letting others do the running in the centre is more beneficial, still makes us vulnerable but as long as Messi is here I don't see any other options.

I re-watched the 2nd half today and Messi did zero running. That's like a playing a man down tbh.


This. The 4-2-3-1 is not going to work. Against Elche, Messi predictably went right and then you had Griezman running all over the place trying to cover gaps. Better teams than Elche will tear us to shreds.

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Post by alexjanosik on Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:47 pm

@Arquitecto wrote:Anyone have any notes on Pjanic? How he is being used and how he has been so far in training and pre season?


Lethargic. Pointless signing. Just not the right fit for a Messi team. Guy looks slower than Busquets and Rakitic and I didnt think that was possible.

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Post by Arquitecto on Fri Sep 25, 2020 10:32 am

Pjanic is not a physical stamina based runner as it is.

We must understand he is an old school archetype of a #10 and has not played that since his Roma days.

As a deep lying CM he will perform but all the roles assigned to him over the years have eroded his form and he looks without identity now.

I sincerely hope Koeman will recognise this and have play -to his strengths-.

If so then he will be world class in Barça, no doubt.
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