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Post by S Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:41 pm



Matuidi: ✓
Romero: ✓
Perin: ✓
Higuain:
Khedira:
Douglas Costa:
Bernardeschi:
Ramsey:
De Sciglio:
Pjaca:

At best, we can sell/release 3 or 4 players from the above list.  Rugani most likely survives the axe with Romero's sale. Probably Bernardeschi too since he decided to get injured just  at the right time.

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Post by Luca Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:51 pm

Rugani will survive surely.

Higuain and Khedira will be released. No one will take their wages.

I read we won’t invest heavy into a player without first selling... which means Douglas Costa (the only player of that list with meaningful value), is the necessary sale for any hope for a midfielder.

To be honest, we are paying for some poor squad management in the past couple years.

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Post by Warrior Sat Sep 05, 2020 3:59 pm

Depressing stuff
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Post by S Sun Sep 06, 2020 11:33 pm



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Post by S Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:13 pm



This guy lost his mojo when Beppe left

Won't be missed at all. Did a terrible job over the last couple of seasons.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 07, 2020 12:31 pm

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Post by Warrior Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:09 pm

S wrote:

This guy lost his mojo when Beppe left

Won't be missed at all. Did a terrible job over the last couple of seasons.


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Post by rincon Mon Sep 07, 2020 5:07 pm

I dont understand why you guys blame the issues that Marotta left on him. Marotta's last moves were extending the contracts of the older players like Khedira and Matuidi.

Some of Paratici's deals that rejuvenate the squad:

Arthur for Pjanic and 10m
Kulusevski for 35m
De Ligt for 86m
Demiral for 18m
Pellegrini and 8m for Spinazzola
Rabiot free

Older players:

Ronaldo for 100m
Buffon free
Ramsey free
Danilo and 30m for Cancelo

Sales besides those in the swaps:

Kean 30m
Can 25m
Audero 20m
Sturaro 17m
Orsolini 15m with buyback
Muratore 10m

Plus other smaller movements going both ways. I dont see what is terrible here. Our squad was really old and its clear that Ronaldo aside most significant signings are reducing the age with quality players. The run up to Marotta's departure is being 'undone' basically. Khedira, Higuain, Matuidi, De Sciglio, Costa, Rugani the players that contributed littlr the last few seasons were signed before.
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Post by Warrior Wed Sep 09, 2020 1:08 am

Demiral is the only piece of business that "stands out" i am glad to buy De Ligt and Kulusevski. But those were obvious bids to make and we pay the high price without discount.

Arthur, Rabiot i am not sold, the latter i never rated him before he joined us. Pjanic is better than them actually, but he switched off. Same for Ramsey but that guy switched off many years ago, long before Paratici signed him.

Sells, yeah we get plenty of money. Why we did not keep Spinazzola is a mystery

Marotta's mistakes ? He fucked up a bit in the end tbh

As you can see if i detail step-by-step my impressions i agree with you more or less. But what i rate is the general result: a team with no flavor, no eager to win, no cohesion. In this regard Paratici has done a disappointing job. Nedved also needs to look himself in the mirror imo. Yes in 2018 Beppe offer sketchy extensions, but his project was interrupted in the middle of the rebuild process, who knows how things would be right now if did not buy Ronaldo ? And if anything i trust more Marotta to repair his own mistakes instead of Paratici Laughing all he did is generate huge cash flow and put us more in shit

Because whilst i learn to appreciate CR7, the crux of the problem is not him personally (of course not) more so what he represents: Agnelli's intentions are to modify the essence of this club
Marotta, Allegri now Paratici all quality football men who leave the club, sacrificed for some absurd ideals of grandeur ? While we were already elite before 2017. I fear when i see faces begin to change more often that we'll take a drop like Milan, no stability, no clear project, impatience, etc
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Post by Luca Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:34 pm

Higuain to Inter... Miami

I feel bad for him over the past couple seasons. He was signed for big money to be the main man here and it was somewhat cut short by Ronaldo. Unsuccessful with Milan and Chelsea before coming back, looking great early but fading extremely hard. His goal against Napoli early last season was prime Pipita.

Had to leave because his wages and his profile on the field just don’t work. Grazie Pipita. Scored some amazing goals for Juventus and was an instrumental player post-MVP.

I can’t believe the season is just over a week away.


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Post by Art Morte Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:31 pm

He still had a great career. Argentinian Wayne Rooney.
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Post by rincon Thu Sep 10, 2020 9:39 pm

He was excellent for us in his first two seasons, our MVP. This is case where I think Juve failed the player more than the player failed Juve. But it made sense for the club.

He didn't want to leave 2 years ago, that was the beginning of the end for him. Then he let himself go physically, too out of shape for a top club.
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Post by S Thu Sep 10, 2020 10:33 pm








Linked with Giroud as well (surprise surprise)

He'd be far cheaper than any of the other oldies we've been linked with though. Getting a functional player on a 2 year deal with Kean as backup wont be bad at all.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:52 pm

Wow. Just wow.

Your DoF work is just all over the place. Have to say I'm surprised it's that bad.
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Post by Luca Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:50 am

We have no money and can’t offload our shit players because no one else has money/will take on their inflated wages

Paying for our sins

The number 9 search is not looking that great considering the season is just over a week out

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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:20 am

well, as long as you don't buy Morata I guess it could be worse
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Post by S Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:25 am

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Post by Luca Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:58 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:well, as long as you don't buy Morata I guess it could be worse


The silver lining of having no money is not being able to buy Morata. Tears in my eyes.

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Post by S Fri Sep 11, 2020 5:34 pm





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Post by Warrior Fri Sep 11, 2020 9:19 pm

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Post by Luca Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:25 pm

Di Marzio writing that Milik is staying at Napoli, effectively ending Dzeko to Juventus.

Earlier reports of Giroud staying put.

Here is who is alive in the striker pool for Juventus:

Suarez- passport issues

Cavani- wants to respect his provinciale past at Napoli

Morata- Atletico won’t let him go on the cheap and we thankfully have no money

Kean- Everton won’t loan him out only one season after signing him for 30M (id love for that Ramsey swap to be revived but after all of everton’s midfield signings, do they care?)

What could go wrong Proud

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Post by rincon Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:47 pm

Milik is definitely not confirmed to stay at Napoli. He has no place, Napoli signed 2 strikers already, bringing their total to 6, without Milik. ADL has been saying since last year, either Milik renew last year or leave this summer.

Gattuso just today said the same. He won't be part of the squad even if he doesn't find an exit deal, so its in everyone's best interest that Milik is sold.

The problem is that this puts Napoli in an extraordinarily weak position to negotate so clubs don't want to pay full price for him. Furthermore ADL doesn't want to see Milik at Juve.
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Post by M99 Sat Sep 12, 2020 12:25 am

Luca wrote:Di Marzio writing that Milik is staying at Napoli, effectively ending Dzeko to Juventus.

Earlier reports of Giroud staying put.

Here is who is alive in the striker pool for Juventus:

Suarez- passport issues

Cavani- wants to respect his provinciale past at Napoli

Morata- Atletico won’t let him go on the cheap and we thankfully have no money

Kean- Everton won’t loan him out only one season after signing him for 30M (id love for that Ramsey swap to be revived but after all of everton’s midfield signings, do they care?)

What could go wrong Proud


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Post by Luca Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:35 am

Alfredo Martinez reporting that Suarez has decided to stay - not sure on his reliability

Anelka on deadline day it is

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Post by adun101 Sat Sep 12, 2020 2:47 am

rincon wrote:Napoli signed 2 strikers already, bringing their total to 6, without Milik.


Maybe they'll loan Petagna to us
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Post by Warrior Sat Sep 12, 2020 5:24 am

Ah yes, the italian Giroud, perhaps he'd give us 10-15 goals total as back-up. Whatever at this point

Crap situation we are in lads, get your swords and excuses ready, next season we must face heavy assaults by the anti-Juve troops
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