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Post by Arquitecto Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:52 pm

COPA is historical and all and always will be but comparing it to Euros is a joke. I remember watching the COPA this time and the level of football itself was just shocking. European football has zoomed way ahead of South American and saying otherwise is just memeing.

That being said Benzema would not be an exciting win for the Ballon d'Or but a deserved one.

Real one who deserves it is Robert Lewandowski, who has been just absurdly prolific but wont win it, sadly.

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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:07 pm

Harmonica wrote:
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Harmonica wrote:Nations League was created for making more money from friendlies, it's a friendly cup. And they tried to hide the fact, by giving one Euro place. Which is pointless in current Euro's anyway with 24 teams. And compared to lady football in Euro's, Copa is war of men, with corrupted referees allowing butchering, awful pitches and Brazilian officials.


Oh, come off it.

Compared to the Euros, the Copa is a farmer's competition. There is a reason a South American team did not win the WC for the past four WCs, and won't win it soon.

Outdated tactics, extreme play-acting, and a rot style of play. "War of men", more like a neanderthal sport.
Brazil is the most successful team in the World Cup. Last three World Cup's Uefa has had 40 teams, about half making to the knock-out stage. In stark comparison Conmebol entered with 15 teams, and only one failed to advance to ko-stage.

Copa and Euro are pretty equal on top 5 teams, but the style is different. Where as in Europe players are protected and game is more skillful, in Conmebol referees are protected and the game is much more physical.


The top teams in the Copa are equal or a step down to the top teams in Europe. Sure, the teams are more equal overall, but somehow believing it is a harder or more valuable victory than the "ladies" Euro game is ridiculous.

Sure, Brazil was the best team on the planet, and probably can still be the best team now, but the standards of coaching, training, and tactics have all massively changed since they last won it. At best, the SA teams can tank wins through sheer passion and skill, but they are almost always outclassed physically and tactically by the top European teams.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:17 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:The top teams in the Copa are equal or a step down to the top teams in Europe. Sure, the teams are more equal overall, but somehow believing it is a harder or more valuable victory than the "ladies" Euro game is ridiculous.

Sure, Brazil was the best team on the planet, and probably can still be the best team now, but the standards of coaching, training, and tactics have all massively changed since they last won it. At best, the SA teams can tank wins through sheer passion and skill, but they are almost always outclassed physically and tactically by the top European teams.
I never said Copa is more valuable than Euro's. They are as valuable, highest honor for the teams aside World Cup. What I said is no different from "farmer's competition", they are just different styles of competition, because cultural differences and amount of nations. In Uefa games are more varied because of this, but in Conmebol everybody knows everybody and play much harder games on average.
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Post by Lord Spencer Wed Oct 13, 2021 3:05 pm

Fair enough.
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Post by Myesyats Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:00 pm


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Post by Kaladin Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:02 pm

Filter the penalty modifier please
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Post by Firenze Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:02 pm

filter the non PL/CL modifier please
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Post by Mamad Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:03 pm

Does chances created per game count as stats?
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Post by Myesyats Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:10 pm

Kaladin wrote:Filter the penalty modifier please

Mbappe just missed one, #PenaltiesAreGoalsToo

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Post by Kaladin Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:04 pm



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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Oct 21, 2021 7:08 pm

Based on that i reckon he gets acquitted completely if his defense team stand their grounds. It went from 5 years to suspended 10 months

The prosecution have nothing conclusive on him beyond a telephone conversation he had with his best friend talking shit about Valbuena
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Post by sportsczy Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:42 pm

Prosecutors are trying to save face... I hope they get buried. So many crazy crimes go without prosecution and they spend so many resources on this. Just shameful.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Oct 21, 2021 9:08 pm

Feels like Valbuena has an axe to grind. They don't waste time taking pot shots at Benz who wasn't even the biggest problem. The other guys have already pleaded guilty but the prosecution including Valbuena and his legal team are so hung up about Benz you start to wonder if this is really about seeking justice or getting revenge
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Post by sportsczy Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:50 pm

Deep pockets... Valbuena wants to sue Benzema for damages if there's any kind of guilty verdict.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Oct 22, 2021 3:58 am

Greed
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Post by sportsczy Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:00 am

Myesyats wrote:
Kaladin wrote:Filter the penalty modifier please

Mbappe just missed one, #PenaltiesAreGoalsToo

Yeah but you score on 90% of PK shots.  In regular play, 20% goal to shots is considered super-elite (Messi level).

PK are goals too...  but it's practically a free goal.  

Mbappe missed because the game was over (the pk happened at the end of additional time) and he rushed it without concentrating.  Wasn't his typical routine at all.  Was far more nonchalant about it.
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Post by Warrior Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:20 am

More like slap on the wrist d'or 2022

The worst outcome for all parties involved is how this stupid sextape story resurfaced again in the public sphere, six years after the facts Laughing
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Post by elitedam Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:17 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Mbappe missed because the game was over (the pk happened at the end of additional time) and he rushed it without concentrating.  Wasn't his typical routine at all.  Was far more nonchalant about it.


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I really hope they never cut off the internet in your insane asylum. GL would really miss you.
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Post by Mamad Fri Oct 22, 2021 2:53 pm

Benzema's attorney in court: Karim has only received 3 yellow cards his whole career.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:25 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Greed


Wait

Greedy is the guy who sues people who BLACKMAILED HIM FOR MONEY? Laughing
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Post by FennecFox7 Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:59 pm

Benzema didn’t blackmail anyone
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:15 pm

FennecFox7 wrote:Benzema didn’t blackmail anyone

He negotiated on behalf of his buddies who were blackmailing Valbuena

Unbelievable he was let back on the NT, really
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Post by Mamad Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:05 pm

stfu. innocent until proven guilty.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:12 pm

Mamad wrote:stfu. innocent until proven guilty.


He's on tape. Proven guilty.
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Post by Chad31 Sat Oct 23, 2021 12:43 am

Yeah benzema is guilty of trying to be a middle man and freaking moron, but let's be real benzema doesn't need a cent from valbuena plus he is a super star or star player in football, he was just being a douche to valbuena cause he is bigger name and valbuena in return ruined his reputation and cost him a world cup winners medal seems fair to me even though I'm sure Benz being called back to the NT must sting.

valbuena seems to be salty like he thought he was a star or something? Even if he got a world cup medal what was gonna happen? Was he gonna be elite? This case is the most relevant he has been and I'm sure that why he and his lawyer is pushing the benzema angle for some cheap recognition.

Anyway this case seem to be over for benzema at least so good for him, is valbuena really a victim anyway he seems to be using benzema to gloss over his sextape not like anyone cares for that matter other than him.

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Post by sportsczy Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:38 am

Benzema didn't blackmail anyone.  

His childhood friend knew the blackmailers and told Benzema about it.  Benz was extremely stupid to act as an intermediary exactly ONCE.  Valbuena was a friend at the time... and Benzema was told that the sextape was real and the people involved were legit gangsters.

That's what he told Valbuena.  That the tape was real according to his friend (Benzema never saw it) and it's something he should flush out.  He made his childhood friend available to Valbuena.

Now here's the thing...  Benzema childhood friend is a known thug.  So was Benz trying to legitimately help Valbuena or was he helping his other friend with a scam?

IMO, Benz isn't a bad dude.  So he was legit trying to help.

That offer from the prosecutors shows that, at best, they can't prove complicity and are trying to salvage whatever they can.

I am extremely mad that Benz used the NT break to approach Valbuena about this... which was doubly stupid.  It then became a NT issue which got him banned. He completely deserved getting kicked off the team and his comments about Deschamps "succumbing to the racist voices of France" put the nail in his coffin. He's lucky Deschamps needs him now.

The guy is a dummy and was playing a wannabe gangster.  Great footballer though.
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