Re: Xavi, next Barca manager

by Myesyats Thu Nov 11, 2021 11:17 pm

Bunch of nonsense in this thread Laughing

He's just enforcing rules that were in place during Pep era. Teamwork ,discipline. It won't do miracles, duh, but its essential to building a team as opposed to a cluster of individuals.

Arriving 1,5h before training is normal and he also copied this from Pep, as confirmed by Aguero last month:
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Kun: "At Man City, we used to arrive at least an hour & a half before training. Here, like half an hour before. I figured, I'm gonna be there an hour before, to see if I can do something in the gym or whatever. But no, even the lights were off."

by Casciavit Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:38 pm

There is a lot of expectation to see if Xavi Hernandez, Blaugrana idol, can revive a FC Barcelona going through one of his worst sporting moments. Your work on Qatar has been outstanding and, according to the Catalan press, has incorporated some tools that he used there in his daily work at the Barça: one of them is a innovative software for tactical analysis.

The newspaper Sports world point out that Xavi it’s a “modern technician” and has begun to apply this resource that offers you the possibility of having a tactical analysis of matches automatically, which will facilitate your study of training sessions and matches.

It is software was developed through the years of work and experience of Joan Vilá, a former member of the club’s Soccer Area, who is also one of the main mentors of Xavi in his training as a footballer. Town has a company called Kognia and created a system that can revolutionize the work methodology.

Joan Vilá and his son Ferran, who is part of the company, contributed their football experience and mixed their wisdom with that of mathematicians, computer scientists, astrophysicists and professors of the Barcelona University to achieve a product that has been incorporated by Xavi and its coaching staff.

Joan Vilà, a former employee of FC Barcelona, is the one who developed the software that Xavi has incorporated into his work.

According to the article by MD, one of the trainer who already uses it is Unai emery, who applies it in the Villarreal. For its part, Xavi He has started to use it in this last season as coach of the Al Sadd to automatically detect different automatisms in various phases of the game, in order to improve the performance of their pupils collectively and individually.

Another of the peculiarities of this software is that it offers a real-time analysis, which will allow Xavi correcting situations in a match on the fly, without having to wait to return to the locker room at halftime. The DT of Barcelona you will have instant statistics that you can use to make decisions.

The software Xavi uses at Barça makes tactical analysis automatically.
It is likely that several of the big clubs in Europe pay attention to the performance of Xavi in the Catalan entity and, if they see better ones, they may sign up to get this tool that can also be applied to training football. “As a coach, Kognia provides me and my staff with critical information that helps me make the best decisions from the bench.”, Explain Xavi, according to the company’s website.

After the unsuccessful experiences of Ernesto Valverde, Quique Setien and Ronald Koeman, at Camp Nou they were looking for a modern coach who can change the dynamic. Xavi Hernandez has the innovative profile you were looking for Joan Laporta and the rest of the directive.

Nahhh this is Bielsa/Arteta levels of appointment prop rofl

New dressing room rules, firing most of the backroom staff, and now implementing new 'tactical software'. I'm dead. rofl

by Hapless_Hans Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:00 am

"Siri, how do I win at football?"

by BarrileteCosmico Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:45 pm

tbf has the back office staff done enough to really convince you to keep them?

by Hapless_Hans Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:01 pm

TIKI TAKI LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by Harmonica Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:19 pm

Messi - "Xavi will make Barca great again. He knows the club in and out, and knows perfectly what to do."

Messi - "Koeman arrived at a very difficult time at a club where important players left, but he was capable of bringing a lot of young players. As I said, the easiest thing is always to blame the coach and they know it too because that is their profession."

Messi - "Coaches are always treated unfairly, like Koeman and with Valverde? When bad results come, the easiest thing is to blame the coach. And then he is changed instead of the players."

Xahvi got lucky the first game, but his calculated move of coming at rock bottom, will protect him awhile. Hernanrefdrid gave the first game changing (non) penaldo for Barcelona, ever. So either RFEF is protecting Liga when Barcelona isn't on top, or Xahvi has influence in refs.

by Mamad Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:24 pm

Harmonica wrote:Messi - "Xavi will make Barca great again.

He won't.

by BarcaLearning Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:14 pm

Happy with Xavis obvious improvements already. We kept two clean sheets, albeit with huge luck Razz

But the team is playing much more positively, better positioning n movement n passing. Just imagine if we had him instead of Koeman since the start of the season....

Now am hoping he does something in the winter window, we badly need a no.9, n not Braithwaite/Luuk, etc., Aguero is gone so sad, meaning we will definitely need yet another emergency good one somehow, otherwise we will just continue to struggle for goals.

by Myesyats Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:36 pm

The shape is good

I like the shape

by Hapless_Hans Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:31 pm

Villarreal
Rulli - Foyth, Raul Albiol, Pau, Alfonso Pedraza - Yeremy, Capoue, Parejo, Moi Gomez - Manu Trigueros, Danjuma

Bench: Jörgensen (Tor), Sergio Asenjo (Tor), Alberto Moreno, Estupinan, Mandi, Mario Gaspar, Iborra, Ruben Pena, Samu Chukwueze, Dani Raba, Dia, Paco Alcacer

Trainer:
Emery

FC Barcelona
ter Stegen - Araujo, Piqué, Garcia, Jordi Alba - Nico, S. Busquets, F. de Jong - Abde, Depay, Gavi

Becnh: Neto (Tor), Tenas (Tor), Dest, Lenglet, Mingueza, Umtiti, Coutinho, Riqui Puig, L. de Jong, Dembelé, Demir, Ilias

Trainer:
Hernandez i Creus

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by Firenze Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:48 pm

state of that Barca side now, Villarreal legit have a better starting 11

by Hapless_Hans Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:50 pm

Is he the new Zidane?

by Myesyats Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:02 pm

3-1, solid win

will have to re-watch the game cause i missed it

by Firenze Sat Nov 27, 2021 10:37 pm

flattering scoreline

by Doc Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:06 pm

After the unsuccessful experiences of Ernesto Valverde, Quique Setien and Ronald Koeman, at Camp Nou they were looking for a modern coach who can change the dynamic. Xavi Hernandez has the innovative profile you were looking for Joan Laporta and the rest of the directive.

Ernesto Valverde was not unsuccessful at all!

by Casciavit Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:19 pm

I was kind of under the impression he might be a little dogmatic just because of the way he used to speak as a player, but seeing him bring on Luuk De Jong in the dying minutes bodes well for him. Hoofing it to a tall target man in the last minutes of the game should never go out of style.

by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:05 pm

The new Pep, is he?

by Lord Spencer Sun Jan 09, 2022 12:11 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:The new Pep, is he?

That's such a shit take.

Pep had a CL winning team to work with. Half Barca's starting team wouldn't make the bench in that team.

That's not to say that Xavi is a success. I am not sure what that looks like for the team at this moment.

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:23 pm

When pep took over barca had just finished 3rd in the league and sold dinho, people overestimate his 2008 squad

by danyjr Sun Jan 09, 2022 2:06 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:When pep took over barca had just finished 3rd in the league and sold dinho, people overestimate his 2008 squad

2008 Barcelona was very different to this team.
Finishing 3rd in La Liga wasn't as bad a merit as it is now. La Liga's quality was far higher back then than it is now.
Also the team was not as broke as it is now. Pep had signed Alves, Piqué, Keita as well as bringing Busquets, Pedro and Bojan from the B team.
Third, the squad Pep inherited was ready to peak. Messi, Iniesta, Xavi were all ready to step up. Of course because of the great manager Pep is, he turned previously underwhelming players like Henry, Abidal etc. to real world beaters.

I'm not in any way, shape or form saying Xavi is as good as Pep. I don't even rate Xavi. But to imply the squads inherited are similar is not true.

by Lord Spencer Sun Jan 09, 2022 3:44 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:When pep took over barca had just finished 3rd in the league and sold dinho, people overestimate his 2008 squad

That's bullshit and you know it. Overestimate Laughing

Pep was inheriting a WC CB at his peak, a WC midfield Duo about to peak with a WC DM in Tata. And had a WC attack the rely on (Eto, Henry). Not to forget the emergence of a generational talent in Messi.

Rijkaard's last season was a know disappointment because the team was obviously capable of much more than that. There materials are miles better than anything in this Barça team. Literally no one in this team would make the starting 11 in Pep's first year.

That's not to underestimate Pep's influence who maximized what the team could achieve, but let's not pretend its remotely the same situation.

by Myesyats Sun Jan 09, 2022 10:01 pm

November 5th he was announced as manager so YEAH lets judge him after 2 months with Luuk De Jong at CF, zero transfer windows to re-shape the team and most key players being in and out injured :facepalm:

Besides clearly this current team's ceiling is way lower than that one from 2008.

by BarrileteCosmico Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:40 pm

Lord Spencer wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:When pep took over barca had just finished 3rd in the league and sold dinho, people overestimate his 2008 squad

That's bullshit and you know it. Overestimate

Pep was inheriting a WC CB at his peak, a WC midfield Duo about to peak with a WC DM in Tata. And had a WC attack the rely on (Eto, Henry). Not to forget the emergence of a generational talent in Messi.

Rijkaard's last season was a know disappointment because the team was obviously capable of much more than that. There materials are miles better than anything in this Barça team. Literally no one in this team would make the starting 11 in Pep's first year.

That's not to underestimate Pep's influence who maximized what the team could achieve, but let's not pretend its remotely the same situation.

That WC midfield duo was highly questioned until Pep arrived, Henry had a bad season, Eto'o was (and remained) unreliable when things got tough, and yeah they had Messi and Pique at the beginning of their careers but it could've gone very different with a different coach. The only WC player they brought in was Alves, and at the time he was not a household name.

Not to mention all the dressing room issues they had when Pep first arrived. He made the call to let heavy hitters Dinho, Deco and Eto'o go to get the dressing room back under control (although he changed his mind on the later), which was took a lot of balls for an unproven coach. And it was so successful that ever since then Barca suddenly became "school boys" but it wasn't true with Rijkaard.

It was obviously a great squad, but let's not act like it was a foregone conclusion in August of 2008 that Pep would be winning anything with it.

danyjr wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:When pep took over barca had just finished 3rd in the league and sold dinho, people overestimate his 2008 squad
2008 Barcelona was very different to this team.
Finishing 3rd in La Liga wasn't as bad a merit as it is now. La Liga's quality was far higher back then than it is now.
Also the team was not as broke as it is now. Pep had signed Alves, Piqué, Keita as well as bringing Busquets, Pedro and Bojan from the B team.
Third, the squad Pep inherited was ready to peak. Messi, Iniesta, Xavi were all ready to step up. Of course because of the great manager Pep is, he turned previously underwhelming players like Henry, Abidal etc. to real world beaters.

I'm not in any way, shape or form saying Xavi is as good as Pep. I don't even rate Xavi. But to imply the squads inherited are similar is not true.

I broadly agree with this, just saying that Barca were not a "CL winning team" when Pep took over, it took skill and good decision making to get it there even if he had good players at his disposal.

Xavi has a much worse hand to play, and coming in during half the season is doing him no favors.

by titosantill Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:50 am

the problem in frank's last year wasnt talent; it was injuries and motivation. henry had a groin injury, eto'o had a big injury either that year or the year before, and dinho had won everything so focused more on parties; similar with deco. the magic quartet as they were called barely got any time to play together.....the main thing was fitness and the egos, nobody questioned that talent in europe. and i hope it gets worse for xavi and em. he's even doing well, i was really hoping they could fall to tenth by the xmas break

by futbol Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:16 pm

Are we really comparing 2008 to 2022 Barca? One is Einstein who got bored and got into booze and hookers and then returned back to work after a short sabbatical.

The other is a college student who fails the undergraduate exam 3 times in a row.

by danyjr Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:47 pm

futbol wrote:Are we really comparing 2008 to 2022 Barca? One is Einstein who got bored and got into booze and hookers and then returned back to work after a short sabbatical.

The other is a college student who fails the undergraduate exam 3 times in a row.

well said.

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