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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed 7 Apr - 23:51:36

This shit is absolutely outrageous

At the top level, CL semis, CL quarters, he don't give a fuck about defending. Everyone rushing forward all the time

No control, no deliberation, just full on rush, verticality, attacking ecstasy, 90 minutes running forward,the whole team committed to attacking.
What a fucking game, nonstop attacking action, fucking crazy

Of course, it's absolutely maddening, the way we concede chances everytime the opponent merely has the ball

but still, how can you hate on that? How can you not absolutely fucking love this?

10 minutes into a CL quarter final, we had 4 top chances, we conceded 2 top chances, and on and on it went

Was there ever a top team that played like that? So relentlessly open?


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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed 7 Apr - 23:56:26

and yes, I'm drunk, but the question is serious.

Was there ever? Surely this is not normal.
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Post by Robespierre Thu 8 Apr - 0:06:37

Do you know Zdenek Zeman ?

you should look for that Tenerife-Lazio 5-3 Uefa 97 ( it was Heynckes vs Zeman )
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu 8 Apr - 0:11:47

@Robespierre wrote:Do you know Zdenek Zeman ?

you should look for that Tenerife-Lazio 5-3 Uefa 97 ( it was Heynckes vs Zeman )

@Robespierre wrote:Do you know Zdenek Zeman ?

you should look for that Tenerife-Lazio 5-3 Uefa 97 ( it was Heynckes vs Zeman )


I've heard about Zeman of course. Gor fired and hired from Cagliari over and over  wasn't he

He didn't make it to the CL knockouts though

8-2 in a semi against Barca

Flick is completely beyond reason
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Post by Robespierre Thu 8 Apr - 0:27:09

He was done when he 's coached Cagliari

His prime was in 90s. Protagonist in this decade. Never a winner, but the most attack minded of Serie A history probably. He was very good with Roman teams

Anyway yes , Flick is a very offensive manager and we tend to underrate this because Lewandoski has a great conversion rate.
Lewandoski is amazing but Bayern are also a club who produces much . And at same time the Lewandoski supremacy hides the defensive lacks.

I had noticed even on last CL anyway, and even in matches apparently with just a ruler. 0-3 against Lyon but yet you have conceded some easy chances to Lyon.

It's not the Bayern under Heynckes that was a working machine without incongruites
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu 8 Apr - 0:30:47

Lyon could have scored many against us, as could every team we face. Köln, Bielefeld, Lokomitive Moscow, RB Salzburg.

Flick doesn't care, they get 2, 3, 4 ,5 appearances all alone in front of Neuer

While the rest of the team runs forward, 90 minutes, attack attack attack

amazing stuff

Problem is once you face Mbappé on a good day
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Post by Myesyats Thu 8 Apr - 0:56:52

Yes the intensity in this game was something else. This bayern definitely is one of the most attacking minded teams ever. It's incredible how quickly they can transition to attack and create danger constantly.
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Post by BarcaLearning Thu 8 Apr - 3:09:40

Actually Real owning Liverpool and also just watching the game recently has made me realise the contrast Zidane's teams in comparison. They play mostly calm and collected patience, but a lot of top teams like Bayern, Liverpool, Man C focus more on the pressing and intensity. All has their weaknesses I suppose.

Bayern were unlucky with the missing Lewand and Gnabry, together with the fact that Mbappe can be unplayable at times and score just with one or two chances. Another day Bayern would have drawn that game I think.

And yes Flick's Bayern are entertaining to watch, they way they attack non stop and play so high, leaving the back line to good counters consistently, makes for exciting games Razz
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Post by Arquitecto Thu 8 Apr - 9:45:44

Zeman says hi.
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Post by rincon Thu 8 Apr - 10:46:58

@Robespierre wrote:Do you know Zdenek Zeman ?

you should look for that Tenerife-Lazio 5-3 Uefa 97 ( it was Heynckes vs Zeman )

As soon as I read the thread title before clicking thought to come in and write "Zdenek Zeman has enetered the chat" Laughing

It was amazing to see his Roma kicking off games like this with "the wall of attack" rushing forward
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Post by Casciavit Thu 8 Apr - 16:19:34

From the current top managers yes. However, I have to agree with CalcioLegacy here. Zeman's football had the most verticality I've ever seen. Passing backwards was never an option and they only passed sideways if they really had to. Laughing
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu 8 Apr - 21:22:34

How would you guys compare Zeman's teams playing to this Bayern under Flick?
I mean in terms of style, strategy, not in terms of  quality.

I've never seen those games, and it sounds intriguing. And this Bayern to me seems incomparable to any other team right now in the way how uncompromising, careless and unapologetic Flick has us playing forward and how little we take care to get people behind the ball

All the way down to his selection, clearly he's not insisting on a Alaba-Boateng CB partnership due to the strength of their defensive behaviour Laughing
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Post by rincon Thu 8 Apr - 23:40:25

Zeman played a 433 with the 3 forwards attacking close to each other to combine centrally while while fullbacks pushed up all game for width. The keeper played as a sweeper. A lot of quick one touch football in attack but always forward and getting the ball up quickly. Pressing to recover the ball high and running up in numbers to overwhelm a defense, which also left them wide open to counters. The kick offs were hilarious, 8 players standing on the half line waiting to attack from the first kick. Very fast paced.

Check out this video from his Foggia, shows the staples of "Zemanlandia"

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