Donald Trump Sack Watch

Pedram wrote:

Art Morte wrote:

Pedram wrote:As an Iranian who's going to be effected by this action from Trump, it causes me neither happiness nor sadness that Soleimani is dead, just worried that we're witnessing a prelude to a war that will cause massive casualty on a lot of innocent people from both sides. i'm wondering if Trump thought about the consequences before pulling such a risky move.

Iran's been sabotaging and hijacking oil tankers, blew up a Saudi oil refinery and threatened the US embassy in Iraq. I wonder if Iran has thought about the consequences, too.

Literally none of this would've happened if Trump didn't tore up the nuclear deal in the first place, and he didn't do that because it was a bad deal but because it was signed by Obama whom he hated. so yes he's going to start a war out of his spite for Obama.

sportsczy wrote:That guy was a psychopath killer. If anything, he was killed too suddenly and needed to suffer more. Don't shed a single tear for Soleimani. Trump is to be lauded for getting rid of this guy.

Anyone who summarily tortures and murders civilians by the thousands, including women and children... and even in his own country (see his remarks during the protests a couple of years back)... has a special place in hell.

I hope the Iranian people don't suffer as a consequence. They're the most at risk, not the US. Not much Iran can do to us other than sending fishing boats to harass ships or have a protest or two near our embassies. If they carry out any attack, they'll just get bombed some more.

....of PROTESTERS killed in Iran itself. While Iran will never be able to properly admit it, Soleimani was both hated and feared within the country. They are not nearly as saddened as the leaders will let the outside world believe. He should have been taken out many years ago!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 3, 2020

....and more control over Iraq, and the people of Iraq are not happy with that. It will never end well!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 3, 2020

Mamad wrote:

sportsczy wrote:That guy was a psychopath killer.  If anything, he was killed too suddenly and needed to suffer more.  Don't shed a single tear for Soleimani.  Trump is to be lauded for getting rid of this guy.

Anyone who summarily tortures and murders civilians by the thousands, including women and children... and even in his own country (see his remarks during the protests a couple of years back)...  has a special place in hell.

I hope the Iranian people don't suffer as a consequence.  They're the most at risk, not the US.  Not much Iran can do to us other than sending fishing boats to harass ships or have a protest or two near our embassies.  If they carry out any attack, they'll just get bombed some more.  

Sardar Soleimani was a great man. Bravest of them all. Defeated isis and saved many lives. Iranians are proud of him. He did none of these bullshit you just wrote.

USA leaders on the other hand are the biggest terrorists on the planet. They created isis. They support Saudi and Israel. Seriously, f*** them.

Pedram wrote:

Mamad wrote:

sportsczy wrote:That guy was a psychopath killer.  If anything, he was killed too suddenly and needed to suffer more.  Don't shed a single tear for Soleimani.  Trump is to be lauded for getting rid of this guy.

Anyone who summarily tortures and murders civilians by the thousands, including women and children... and even in his own country (see his remarks during the protests a couple of years back)...  has a special place in hell.

I hope the Iranian people don't suffer as a consequence.  They're the most at risk, not the US.  Not much Iran can do to us other than sending fishing boats to harass ships or have a protest or two near our embassies.  If they carry out any attack, they'll just get bombed some more.  

Sardar Soleimani was a great man. Bravest of them all. Defeated isis and saved many lives. Iranians are proud of him. He did none of these bullshit you just wrote.

USA leaders on the other hand are the biggest terrorists on the planet. They created isis. They support Saudi and Israel. Seriously, f*** them.

Citation needed

That's not completely true, while you're right that he's popular among certain groups of people, i personally know many who despised him and are celebrating his death as we speak.

To put it bluntly: regime supporters like you will mourn his death. me? i couldn't give a shit. good riddance and always good to see an IR goon bite the dust.

Mamad wrote:

Pedram wrote:

Mamad wrote:

Sardar Soleimani was a great man. Bravest of them all. Defeated isis and saved many lives. Iranians are proud of him. He did none of these bullshit you just wrote.

USA leaders on the other hand are the biggest terrorists on the planet. They created isis. They support Saudi and Israel. Seriously, f*** them.

Citation needed

That's not completely true, while you're right that he's popular among certain groups of people, i personally know many who despised him and are celebrating his death as we speak.

To put it bluntly: regime supporters like you will mourn his death. me? i couldn't give a shit. good riddance and always good to see an IR goon bite the dust.

I am no regime supporter. i'm against mullah's running the country. but that does not mean i must believe everything USA leaders say. or defend whatever they do.

We should give credit when it's due. Sardar Soleimani was a powerful man yet he was always in the front line of duty. if it was not for him, Isis could still rape and kill Iraqi people day in day out.

USA names you terrorist if you defend yourself. its always been that way.

Pedram wrote:I want to add that If IR doesn't retaliate very soon they'll be seen as pussies and that may even invite more brazen attacks on their assets in the future.

If they're going to retaliate i hope it's proportional, like killing a high ranking general. anything more than that will give Trump the necessary justification to start a war.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Pedram wrote:I want to add that If IR doesn't retaliate very soon they'll be seen as pussies and that may even invite more brazen attacks on their assets in the future.

If they're going to retaliate i hope it's proportional, like killing a high ranking general. anything more than that will give Trump the necessary justification to start a war.

it's not like high ranking generals are always around for them to kill. if they want something so directly proportional they probably need to wait for the right opportunity at the right time, which would go against the save-facing time crunch they are under.

BarrileteCosmico wrote:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-shadow-commander

In depth profile for anyone interested in his actions

Hope it doesn't lead to a massive escalation, but it seems that Trump wants a conflict

The coöperation between the two countries lasted through the initial phase of the war. At one point, the lead negotiator handed Crocker a map detailing the disposition of Taliban forces. “Here’s our advice: hit them here first, and then hit them over here. And here’s the logic.” Stunned, Crocker asked, “Can I take notes?” The negotiator replied, “You can keep the map.” The flow of information went both ways. On one occasion, Crocker said, he gave his counterparts the location of an Al Qaeda facilitator living in the eastern city of Mashhad. The Iranians detained him and brought him to Afghanistan’s new leaders, who, Crocker believes, turned him over to the U.S. The negotiator told Crocker, “Haji Qassem is very pleased with our coöperation.”

The good will didn’t last. In January, 2002, Crocker, who was by then the deputy chief of the American Embassy in Kabul, was awakened one night by aides, who told him that President George W. Bush, in his State of the Union Address, had named Iran as part of an “Axis of Evil.” Like many senior diplomats, Crocker was caught off guard. He saw the negotiator the next day at the U.N. compound in Kabul, and he was furious. “You completely damaged me,” Crocker recalled him saying. “Suleimani is in a tearing rage. He feels compromised.” The negotiator told Crocker that, at great political risk, Suleimani had been contemplating a complete reëvaluation of the United States, saying, “Maybe it’s time to rethink our relationship with the Americans.” The Axis of Evil speech brought the meetings to an end. Reformers inside the government, who had advocated a rapprochement with the United States, were put on the defensive. Recalling that time, Crocker shook his head. “We were just that close,” he said. “One word in one speech changed history.”

Pedram wrote:I want to add that If IR doesn't retaliate very soon they'll be seen as pussies and that may even invite more brazen attacks on their assets in the future.

If they're going to retaliate i hope it's proportional, like killing a high ranking general. anything more than that will give Trump the necessary justification to start a war.

#Breaking
And just now reports of explosions near #US base in #Mosul #Iraq

— Nafiseh Kohnavard (@nafisehkBBC) January 4, 2020

Pedram wrote:

#Breaking
And just now reports of explosions near #US base in #Mosul #Iraq

— Nafiseh Kohnavard (@nafisehkBBC) January 4, 2020

Looks like it has begun.

The United States just spent Two Trillion Dollars on Military Equipment. We are the biggest and by far the BEST in the World! If Iran attacks an American Base, or any American, we will be sending some of that brand new beautiful equipment their way...and without hesitation!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 5, 2020