Re: Cyberpunk 2077

by McLewis Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:33 am

The bugs don't bother me all that much, but the crashes....that's a different story. I put roughly 6 hours into it yesterday and it crashed 4 times within that window. If not for frequent save points, I'd still be at the first job.

Frankly, it should've been delayed further months until those issues were fixed. The pressure got to CDPR.

by rincon Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:05 pm

Definitely don't read the spoilers until you finish act 1, I guess only @Thimmy is past it?

End of Act 1 spoilers, don't read if you haven't gotten there yet:

by Thimmy Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:19 pm

I passed act 1 not too long ago, so I’m not far ahead. The game still crashes every time I play the game, so I’m progressing slowly.

by Thimmy Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:22 pm

McLewis wrote:The bugs don't bother me all that much, but the crashes....that's a different story. I put roughly 6 hours into it yesterday and it crashed 4 times within that window. If not for frequent save points, I'd still be at the first job.

Frankly, it should've been delayed further months until those issues were fixed. The pressure got to CDPR.

I honestly believe they rushed it out, in order to meet the 2020 deadline, which they’ve mentioned several times as part of the lore from the Cyberpunk 2077 universe. It’s probably just a bonus that the release date coincides with christmas being around the corner.

They say they’ll fix the most substantial issues by march, which tells me that the game should’ve been released in march.

by Warrior Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:37 am

That tech sniper with thermic outline is OP as hell, you can charge and headshot through walls for 2000 damage Laughing

i don't even know where i found it

To the point i wonder if it's a bug

Regarding act 1 ending:

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:26 pm

Haven't played it yet( my sleep schedule is so fucked that i feel tired all the time so don't feel like playing it)

But i will say how they acted pre launch (not giving people console reviews etc) was very deceitful and it will take some time to earn that trust back from people.

The game should have been delayed the extra 3-4 months it probably needs, how it runs on base PS4/Xbox while demanding full price is unacceptable behaviour.

by Pedram Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:03 pm

Police and NPC AI is almost non existent. :facepalm:

Police spawns right behind you no matter where you are and can't chase you with cars.

Cyberpunk 2077 my ass, even GTA 3 had better AI than this pile of shit. Laughing

by Myesyats Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:58 pm

Meh they'll put out some fixes through patches and in 2 years time nobody will remember this and then Witcher 4 will break another set of records again.

by rincon Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:05 pm

As someone who is enjoying this inmensely, and has had tons of luck as to how it runs, I can still say it should been next gen exclusive.

A lot of people are getting burnt on PS4 and for many downloading 100gb of patches is not trivial. Also the thing with not letting reviewers have the console version is an extremely shitty move.

No doubt they will patch it all and have some free dlc and all will be well with the game, as the game itself is too good, but its just a horrible launch for a lot of people.

by rincon Wed Dec 16, 2020 2:12 pm

I still have had 0 crashes, no t-posing NPCs, no flying cars, no game breaking bugs, just visual glitches every so often. The kind of visual artifacts that you usually get from gaming on PC rather than console.

Absolutely loving the game. The characters, the writing, the dialogue is my highlight. Sidequests are great, feel like real windows into the world, tons of great stuff that you could easily miss.

After Act 1 I got on a motorcycle and drove north to South from Watson to Pacifica to finally check out the whole city and its amazing. Extremely cool.

Its also here when its obvious that it should be a PS5 game. The PS4 is really giving its all to try to keep up as I sped through all these open world areas.

by Thimmy Wed Dec 16, 2020 4:13 pm

I'm jealous, Rincon. I'm really enjoying the game when I'm able to play it for a while before crashing, but the crashes are incredibly anti-climatic and demotivating. I would've preferred for the game to look more pixelated, if it meant that I wouldn't have to worry about when the game's going to suddenly kick me out. Good thing that the game auto-saves relatively often, because I would've given up on it some time ago if it wasn't for that feature.

by M99 Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:23 pm

Pedram wrote:Police and NPC AI is almost non existent.

Police spawns right behind you no matter where you are and can't chase you with cars.

Cyberpunk 2077 my ass, even GTA 3 had better AI than this pile of shit.

This is what worries me most. Performance and bugs will be fixed by patches but what about these?

by Thimmy Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:39 pm

Art already linked to a reddit page discussing the issue of police AI in the game. My biggest issue with the police is that the sound and the visual feedback from bullets being shot by them, tend to disappear when they magically arrive in large groups on higher wanted levels - so my health bar drops rapidly, but I can't see or hear where they're shooting from or how many of them are shooting at me. I tried to escape into a back alley with no police or drone in sight, but they still shot me down somehow Laughing

by Warrior Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:50 am

Loving this game, although i progress carefully to avoid crashes, my longest non-stop play is 1h30

Dialogues and scenery are great. Above all this game was made for PC, on PS4 they will patch soon hopefully, and more persons can enjoy it.

For hard settings the AI is a bit clumsy, it's not as much of a challenge as it could be for this reason. At the beginning it was difficult to beat enemies, not anymore. Yes the health drops fast but you come across a ridiculous amount of heal packs. Majority of my deaths are due to bad timing using them, mostly while reloading at the same time.

During act 1:

rincon wrote:
After Act 1 I got on a motorcycle and drove north to South from Watson to Pacifica to finally check out the whole city

by Pedram Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:21 am

lmfao

by rincon Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:11 pm

Warrior wrote:
During act 1:

Spoiler:

by Warrior Thu Dec 17, 2020 8:30 pm

@Rincon:

by Firenze Fri Dec 18, 2020 1:32 am

heads up - Sony have removed the game from the PSN store and will be offering full refunds. Wild.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri Dec 18, 2020 2:15 am

what a disaster.

I'm sure there's games that have been in worse states but nothing on this level when it comes to actual sales.

The right move though, even though I'm surprised they had the balls to do it especially with Christmas sales etc.

by BarrileteCosmico Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:13 am

The game was so shit it was removed from the store Laughing

Have to wonder if Sony would've done this if it was a big triple A studio from the US tho. Still fully justified

by Art Morte Fri Dec 18, 2020 5:33 am

Having started my gaming journey before downloadable games were a thing and every game had to be in its final state at release, because there was no patching a game, I welcome this news. Game studios have been releasing increasingly unfinished games in the last 10 years, with the mentality that they'll just fix everything with patches. I find it a bit annoying, so nice to see Sony drawing a line here. (Although I think this is only because of the performance issues on last-gen consoles, not the overall unfinished state of the game. Especially the constant overheating shutdowns can cause permanent damage to hardware).

by Pedram Fri Dec 18, 2020 11:10 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:The game was so shit it was removed from the store

Have to wonder if Sony would've done this if it was a big triple A studio from the US tho. Still fully justified

Sony didn't do this to teach a lesson to studios, they were just pissed at CDPR for forcing Sony's hand to refund their broken game, Sony doesn't like to refund and they were getting too many requests so they just said fuck it and pulled the game from their store.

I'm glad someone finally showed the middle finger to CDPR, these guys were getting too arrogant for a relatively newcomer studio, they released one AAA tier game and thought they were invincible to criticisms.

by LeVersacci Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:05 pm

Love how they tried to shift the blame on Sony/MS & Sony just outright removed the broken game from their store.

Apparently the first game to be removed from the store like this.

by M99 Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:11 pm

Earlier this month, Cyberpunk 2077 was released on the PlayStation 4. After receiving many messages from gamers, we have decided not to list the game in our store. https://t.co/Kx7rctpJn9
— Ex-CEO Kaz Hirai (@KazHiraiCEO) December 18, 2020

by Pedram Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:29 pm

One of the investors of @CDPROJEKTRED is analyzing the possibility of a class-action suit against the company. Main accusation - ”misrepresentation in order to obtain financial benefits.”#Cyberpunk2077 https://t.co/y5hCcqReS2
— Piotr Gnyp (@tipheret) December 18, 2020

by RealGunner Fri Dec 18, 2020 4:46 pm

The leaked conference call revealed that everyone in the company knew what a disaster the game was for last gen consoles and none of them were bothered by it.

There are 2 silver linings to it though

1) Game will be really cheap in 6 months and mostly fixed
2) The studio will make Witcher 4 to compensate for this

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